Would Lebby keep the hammer down if he gets a chance to do that, scoring the final TD with 26 seconds left?
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Would Lebby keep the hammer down if he gets a chance to do that, scoring the final TD with 26 seconds left?
I'd love to see that.
But I doubt that happens because that's really hard to do.
We do need something eye popping like 60+ points though.
I hope we score 5 times.
lay off the coke
Guess hoping now that the divorce is final we might score more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
putting up a 40-something is very realistic. A 60-something? Not so much
If we score on 10 straight drives we're winning 8-9 games this year.
I am all in on Lebby but I think we have put unrealistic expectations on this offense. It will be average at best this year
Pine Bluff is among the worst of the worst in the SWAC. They got blown out in conference every game but the one that they won. Eastern KY is no powerhouse but they were in most of their games last year except the blowout to Cincy.
Pine Bluff is a step above JUCO. Arkansas could have won that game easily with their 4th string.
Average at best compared to what? The rest of the SEC? I think most would take that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
What we need to see is the scoring improve. I think averaging over 30ppg is a great start.
If Shapen throws for 3000 yards and the team rushing total is 1800+ then I think most would be ecstatic with that. The sad part is those numbers would be well below what Lebby has produced in his career but would be near the top 5 in MSU offensive production, which is extremely sad going into year 125 of football.
ETA: There were over 60 teams last year that threw for 3000 yards or more and 80+ teams that rushed for 1800 yards or more. We set our expectation SO LOW on offense because of MSU history that many fans can't even fathom that we can be close to average statistically. It is very very sad.
With the new rules of running the clock, two minute warning addition and helmet radios for QB' and one defensive player the most significant may be the helmet radios.
They are giving on field instructions as they are giving the play calls. This is cutting down on turnovers as fewer interceptions have already been a theme. This causes the game scoring to be lower in these type games as they have fewer short fields or pick 6's.
Things are being said like... first play call is given.... then QB will be told who is hot and what to watch or what the coaches see in who is creeping up etc.. This is really cutting down on interceptions even by FCS teams.
A 40 point win is plenty if the team looks ready to play and are we well coached. Keep in mind, you should not see a starter out there unless we have real issues with depth after the 3rd qtr and hopefully sooner. Mid-4th I hope to see some 3rd stringers getting in on the action and making some plays here and there.
I want to see 4 TD's and a FG in the first 5 drives and a shut out in the first half and to start the 3rd QTR. After that, I want to see depth players holding their own and still outplaying the opponent finishing up with some more scoring and a defense that still can stop a drive.
Last year- half the SEC averaged 30 or more points. Half did not
Being around 30 PPG is definitely possible and wouldnt really shock. That would make us average
Half the SEC rushed for 1800 yards. So that number for us would make us what people are expecting- average
9/14 teams passed for 3K in the SEC last year. So reaching that number would once again- make us average. Again- nobody has said we shouldnt expect that this season.
But expecting to score 60-something points tomorrow would mean we are way above average offensively. That would surprise. Especially when you have to factor in a defense that this season is expected to be below average.
I'm calling it. 52-10.
Agreed. I get that a segment of people are being debbie downers because of "da portal, 10 of 11 players". But with Lebby's pace of play and Shapen being a SR, barring injury, anything less than a 3k passing 1500 yard rushing season is a failure and would be typical MSU. And that is on the low end of what we should be producing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We could score 50 if we chose to, but we won't choose to. We aren't showing squat this week. EKU isn't good at all.
I get that everyone is excited about a new offense but maybe a better question is how much they score against our defense
We won't choose to? I'm not saying i disagree that we score 50 tomorrow per se. BUT, if the offense works like Lebby wants, points will come.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Oklahoma scored 70 on Arkie State, and 66 on Tulsa last season.
2019 UCF put up 63 on Temple. Ole Miss 2021 put up 54 on Peay and 61 on Tulane. Just saying, Lebby's never been one in the past to "not show stuff" against OOC opponents.
Yeah, I think we're going to let it all hangout. Our official slogan is "Showtime" and they want to show recruits (and fans) big numbers.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
I see zero reasons to hold anything back. Put up numbers, run some complex routes, run pick plays, etc. Give the other teams something to take into consideration. Be multiple and put up a ton of points.
You want one of hte best offenses in the country, you have to load up on yards and points against shitty teams. Look at how Tenn does it.
Lebby will most definitely run the score up if he can. He has proven that in his history. The question is, can he with this roster?
Nobody is being a Debbie downer lol the literal title of this thread is can state score 10 TD straight. Do you realize how absurdly difficult that would be to do? Context manQuote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
I wasn’t talking about the 10 straight TDs. I was referring to the fact that some people can’t fathom that we could possibly have a good offense because we built this particular offense with portal players.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
We aren't going to open up the play book and we'll play as many guys as possible. We might still score but I'm not sure about 50+, but I hope so. We don't have a lot of quality depth in a number of places. I'll be chuggy them expensive beers and raising hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by RockyDog
Why would we hold things back in game one with a new offense? It's not like people don't know what Lebby is going to do anyway.
I posed the question after watching Arkansas score the last of 10 TDs on 10 straight offensive drives with just 26 seconds left. I don't care how bad Pine Bluff is, do you realize how absurdly difficult that would be against Fayetteville High? Regardless of Spineless Bluff's ineptitude, an offense is going to have a hiccup or two like drive killing penalties, missed blocks, dropped passes or RB's slipping down trying to make a cut. Nothing derailed Arkansas's 10 drives last night. They never punted and never lined up for a field goal and never had a 4th down. Petrino was caught smiling after the 10th TD with only 26 seconds left. There was never a thought to taking a knee inside the 10 yard line and letting the clock run out.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
The one thing that State has NEVER showed in my 60 years of fandom is Killer Instincts! If there is ever a time to show it, it is against an opponent you had to pay over $500k to come play you! I'll be looking for the kill shot in the early 4th. I'll be looking for a well oiled machine, without pre-snap penalties, poor blocking, missed tackles, dropped passes, fumbles, running the wrong way. Crisp quick play calling, not No-huddle using 27 seconds like we have seen the last 6 years!
Chugg away!!!! LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I use to be against this until I found out how much we pay these teams to come and play.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbub50
Now I feel that we need to do what we need to in order to be ready, improve.
Only thing that I disagree with is I might try a field goal. Even if it's first down just to get them ready for next weekQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Absolutely.
As long as the power doesn't go out on the Playstation.
You think we need to open up the playbook? Hell naw! Lebby has kept everything on lock down and he's not shooting his wad against EKU. He'll score a lot regardless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
There is value on working on things against live competition. Like the reverse to Creed that went 41 yards for a TD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot