Any truth to us getting Mason Fine next year?
I’ve heard it’s a done deal if Bryant says no, and I’ve heard it’s unlikely he leaves unless the coach for UNT goes.
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Any truth to us getting Mason Fine next year?
I’ve heard it’s a done deal if Bryant says no, and I’ve heard it’s unlikely he leaves unless the coach for UNT goes.
Are you saying fine and the coach would have to be a package deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman4248
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Originally Posted by msstate7
No. If Litrell takes a better job then he’d leave to go to a different school too. Not necessarily the same.
100% agreementQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
So is he coming depending on Bryant or the coach? I'd prefer Fine over the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman4248
What would the dead Indians think? Fine is a citizen of the Cherokee Nation.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheman4248
Emery to LSU surprising no one. He played us and Georgia into a big pay day at LSU
Kelly Bryant will not be an upgrade to anything State has put on the field at QB this year.
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Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro
If Jo thought we had a QB to run the offense next year, he wouldn’t be looking for one. That’s all I need to know. He’s going to flip the whole offensive roster in two years.
I have no problem with pursuing a qb. It's Bryant i object to. He is not goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
He’s better than what we’ve got. But we aren’t going to get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by bulldawg28
I should clarify. I’ve heard two different takes. One says he’s a lock to us unless Bryant unexpectedly says yes. The other says he’s staying put unless the UNT coach goes elsewhere (he’s a shortlist name to replace Riley at OU if Riley goes to the NFL.)
People putting a lot of stock in our backups are garbage. We basing this off hear say and rumours. Heck we heard Fitz and the WRs were lights out in practice. We haven't seen Key or Mayden enough in live action to throw them out with they bathwater. But have seen a HC too stubborn to adjust his offense to fit his talent. We have seen Fitz suck it up multiple games, yet again JoMo resisted change.
Same HC burn Keys possibility to red shirt with no meaningful snaps, my bad SFA. Now we want a 1 year rental that MAYbe better than Key or Mayden? I would rather use that spot for a red shirt OL or WR, Lord know we need options and depth at both.
1. Some of us tried to tell everybody our receivers sucked.
2. Key didn’t want to redshirt. Reports from camp have been he’s struggled with the offense.
3. Mayden was dropped by Penn St. when Jo was there.
4. We are loading up on OL and WRs
I agree with the refusal to change his offense much though. I’d take Bryant if he wanted to come.
I've stayed out of these Bryant discussions bc I doubt we get him but what the hell are y'all talking about? Bryant would be a Top 5 conference QB for us and the perfect 1 year guy to groom Schrader.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I finally agree with you on something. Competition is good.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I've watched Bryant for 5 years. He's not an upgrade. He doesn't read defenses well. He's like Jalen Hurts with tremendous talent around him, only doesn't make big plays. Don't kid yourself. He's not the answer.
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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
This is ACC last year sorted by rating. Bryant wasn't a top 5 acc qb. Clemson had 2 WRs taken in the nfl draft last season (there are more NFL WRs on the roster) and renfrow. They also had an nfl RB. In yards per att, he was 8th in the ACC at 7.0 yds. That's with nfl WRs! 7.0 yds/att would be good for 11th in the sec this season. He's a dink and dunk guy that was surrounded by elite talent.
He isn't coming to compete. He is only coming if promised the jobQuote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
Fitz and Bryant faced 2 common opponents (auburn and bama) last season. Here's the combined stats for each...
KB: 37/65 (56.9) 305 yds (4.7 per att) 0 td 2 int; 38 rushes 78 yds (2.0 per carry) 2 td
NF: 26/57 (45.6) 315 yds (5.5 per att) 1 td 2 int; 34 rushes 122 yds (3.6 per carry) 1 td
Now I'd love to see the passing stats if you flipped WRs. Even so, fitz still got almost 1 yard more per att
They both also faced TAM this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Good call...Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
KB: 12/17 (70.6) 205 yds (12.1 per) 1 td 0 int; 15 rushes 54 yds (3.6 per) 1 td
NF: 14/22 (63.6) 241 yds (11.0 per) 2 td 0 int; 16 rushes 88 yds (5.5 per) 2 td
I'd much rather take a chance on the little guy, mason fine. First in his conf in passing yds/game, 2nd in rating, 4th in yds/att, 2nd in td passes, only thrown 2 ints, and his team does not have the best surrounding cast in the conference. He is tiny though, so make sure key or mayden stick around bc fine may not make it through the season healthy
I?m not sure why we are comparing KB to Fitz. I think everyone would be happy to have another year of Fitz. We are possibly bringing in KB because we don?t have anything comparable to Fitz after he leaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I love fitz, but I want no part of another year of fitz with Moorhead as the coach. We need a pass first qbQuote:
Originally Posted by msudawglb
I think the bottom line is that if our coaches believe KB can help us win bring him in. They see these kids every day and if it's true that KT isn't picking up the offense then let's don't try and fit a square peg in a round hole two straight years. Let's get a one year rental and let Mayden and Schrader battle it out in 2020.
Y'all are comparing him to Fitz. Compare him to what we've got next year. That's why we're recruiting him. Nobody is saying he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, he's just better than what's on campus next year. We can win 7+ games with him and then turn it over to Shrader. That's what we're looking for. We aren't looking at winning a natty next year.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
You'll see how overrated he is next season. Please go to ark... that may swing toss up to win for us. I watch a ton of acc games, and KB is terribleQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Then you don't want to hear about what we've got on campus right now. Hell, they can't even beat out Fitz. They wouldn't beat out Bryant either. This is for one year to keep the bowl streak alive and the fans somewhat happy until we can get our WRs and QB in here.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You're wrong on this 1. He's not close to terrible. He's not elite by any means but he'd very solid for MSU. Now at Arkansas he may stink Bc they're not good.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Again, take the chance on mason fine. He's a far superior PASSER, which is what Moorhead needs. He'll probably be broken bc his size, but he's more of what we need than KBQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Upper echelons go out and get better talent and win by doing so. Feelings get hurt in the process. It's called running a successful business.
So bring in a kid that'll probably be injured midway through the season which means we'll then have to turn to Mayden or Schrader.......if that's the case don't bother wasting a scholly on anyone and just let those two battle it out in fall camp.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Well, he may not get hurt... he hasn't missed a game in his career yet. Hell, I'm probably wrong about injury, Tyson lee made it in Mullen's offenseQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Ditto... And KB ain't it. It will be a replay of this year. KB coming here may be worth 1 extra win. But why upset the depth we have at QB. While some think next year is gap measure before Schrader gets here, again why not let Key and Mayden get the experience through live action. Prove those guys can't get it done. Those guys couldn't have been that bad not to play KU, FL or LSU when Fitz was hot garbage. Moorhead hasn't shown consistency all season. So just maybe his confusion infected his QBs. Only side of the ball that had an identity was the defense. You knew what you were getting week in and week outQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You'd rather lose games trying to prove a QB isn't good enough, than win an extra game and be similar to this year? Makes perfect sense!Quote:
Originally Posted by BhamDawg205
If he's worth one extra win then you get him. That's one game you don't win with what you currently have. And last time I checked YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME.Quote:
Originally Posted by BhamDawg205
So you throw out rumours these guys suck? What make you think KB can get it done in JoMo's offense? He'll KT is 2-1 and shown the ability to throw. Look like he had know problem on where to go, unlike Fitz at times. KT's mechanics does need work, but that's coaching not mental.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I would for Matt Wyatt or anyone to break down KB's ability to read defenses pre and post snap. That's what JoMo's offense requires right?
Man this is an epic hijack