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We never had Peterson tell us that. Not even close. Whoever told you that take them off your list of informative people. Sorry you took it so rough. Just a joke man. Chill. And I have nothing against you. Not a thing. Didn't yesterday. Don't today!Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Dana Holgorsen. He left WVU for more money from Houston. We can beat their pay. He won 12 games in ?21 and finished with a 7-5 record this year. Had some good seasons at WVU. Had plenty of HC experience. Runs the air raid. Ready made roster. Leach coaching tree. Checks a lot of boxes and seems like he would realistically be interested
I would be fine with him. Think I would consider him above Arnett. But sounds like it’s all for naught and we are just going to hire Arnett.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC3
He left to move back to Texas
And more money than WVU wanted to pay himQuote:
Originally Posted by trojandawg
WVU didn't care that he left. He hasn't been good at Houston. One good season in 4 years. Two losing seasons. He obviously hasnt taken advantage of the supposed talent pool he moved for. He also failed to realize the transfer portal was coming and would take his top talent. He defines mediocrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC3
He has won 19 games In the last two years combined. That?s mediocre?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
He 100 percent should be in the conversation
Hire Arnett. Pay him $3m a year- that's low, but he'll take it because he's still several years away from a SEC HC resume and we're letting him bypass that. Hire the DC from Syracuse or promote from within to keep that system. Hire Harrell to keep the air raid. Use the extra million we'll save (vs what Leach + Arnett would have cost) on NIL.
HC is a crapshoot and Arnett has just as good of a chance to work out as the next guy. He's earned it, and he's what's best for the immediate short term too to keep the system stable.
Well, I'm good with Arnett but let's think this through a bit...the scenario you laid out basically makes him a CEO type of HC and replaces the one thing we know he's good at (being a DC) with a different DC. If we're going that route wouldn't we want to consider a coach with more history/cache for that spot and just keep Arnett at DC?Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Is 7-5 what you want? I said he had one good year. Take that one out and it's a losing record. His schedule is nothing too. He's losing to a lot of bad teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by RC3
I?m not saying he is perfect. Sonny Dykes had lows too. I?m saying he checks a lot of the boxes and we should consider him as a realistic replacement for Coach Mike Leach for rest his soul.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Same conference dykes was in... he has a better conference record than dykes did at smuQuote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
I think everyone is forgetting a key factor that is very important to potential HC candidates particularly in the toughest conference in the country. What?s your NIL budget look like right now? You can?t recruit in this landscape without it. Y?all know this, but it?s hard to be successful in any occupation without the resources.
How has he earned it? Being our DC for 3 years and interviewing for other jobs doesn't qualify him to be a head coach in the SEC. Can he manage a staff? Can he manage a game? Can he lead recruiting? If we end up with Arnett, fine, but you owe to the program to do a national search.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Sounds reasonable to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Correct. People are making the emotional quick out with saying just promote arnett. I really like arnett but we know nothing about him as a hc. Like Mullen to Moorhead. A lot of people wanted granthsm too.
Thank you. I like Arnett, but this attitude that it should just be given to Arnett seems like a decision made out of convenience instead of competence. If he ends up being the guy, then I will support him 100% but it seems some of the same people saying Deion should have to prove himself in a G5 job before ever being offered the MSU job have abandoned that philosophy with Arnett.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I would prefer a national search first, then if Arnett is the best candidate, then give him the job.
Also, the "we could save money by hiring Arnett" is the most MSU/Larry Templeton type of thinking ever.
If I were an AD candidate and the President told me I didn?t get to hire my head football coach, the bell cow of the income producing athletics, I tell him to go kick rocks!! Any decent self respecting potential AD wants to hire his Head coaches when positions open up. And placing the interim tag on Arnett for just one year will kill recruiting. A AD should have been hired last week. Now Keenum is in a pickle, unless he plans to make himself the AD.
Whatever we do, keep Arnett.
I'd like to keep arnett. I will say that over the years, I've learned though that we seem to keep a good DC. I wouldn't base a decision on HC on what it means for arnettQuote:
Originally Posted by ImissCityBagel
Hear me out....
Arnette HC and bring back Mullen as OC. We Would freaking roll people.
I don't think there's any way that we don't hire Arnett on an interim basis and then hire a DC and possibly let Spurrier Jr take the OC reigns.(& if not hire an OC as well). Time is simply not on our side. We don't have an AD, signing day is fast approaching, the transfer portal is open and you have a ton of guys that have committed to coming back. Bring in someone else and people start getting a little nervous wondering where they fit it and and the dominos start to fall. For continuity purposes I'm not sure we have any other options, at least until after next season. We were damn lucky to get CML when we did three years ago. We won't be that lucky again and given the timing of these events there's just too much risk in conducting an extensive search at this point, not unless we hire just to be hiring and I don't advocate that at all. I'm ultra conservative but the smart play here is to keep what we have in place for the time being.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg
Kliff Kingsbury
Gary Patterson
Dan Mullen
Chris Peterson
Dave Aranda
Dave Clawson
Deion Sanders
Gus Malzahn
Mike Gundy
Willie Fritz
What is some of our fans fascination with Kliff Kingsbury? The guy sucks as a head coach and belongs nowhere near our head job.
I hope that all Mississippi State fans can accept that the success of our next head coach is going to be largely based on luck. We are in an unprecedented bad situation. We have to hire a coach right before (or after) signing day in the middle of the transfer portal and they have to be able to sign players, keep players, and also be ready to coach in the shadow of a famous coach that just passed away. There is no ideal candidate because this scenario has never existed.
Has nothing to do with the good ole boys. There is not an ideal situation under these circumstances. We need a HC by this first signing period if possible, and somebody who can keep the players together. You completely start over from scratch and see how many players transfer. Let's go with Arnett at HC and let him choose his staff but get an OC who has AR experience and go with it,Quote:
Originally Posted by redstickdawg
They obviously didn't watch him coach at tech - those teams were trash at times. I mean it was bad. He does not understand line of scrimmage football and will get destroyed in this league.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoachT14
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Your list is a dream. No way in hell Kingsbury even sniffs this job, nor does Deion, Gundy or Aranda. Mullen 2.0 likely isn't happening either. Some of you guys just aren't being rational here.Quote:
Originally Posted by PikeDawg15
#9 is head and shoulders above the rest and is the obvious hire if he wants the jobQuote:
Originally Posted by PikeDawg15
As an OC?Quote:
Originally Posted by lastmajordog
Be hard to get him to leave Ok St.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
It would be the dumbest thing ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by lastmajordog
Will Rogers QB draw on 3rd and 12. Yeah.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
There are about a dozen dumber ideas in this thread alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
North Carolina seems to be doing just fineQuote:
Originally Posted by lastmajordog
It’s amazing how some of y’all did nothing but bitch about the air raid and how it never would work, and now the same people are clamoring about making sure we stay with the air raid…
Say it louder for the people in the back!Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
I'd ditch it in a second. Since most here believe we should stick with it, I feel like our admin will agree, so I looked for some i could live withQuote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35