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    Quote Originally Posted by DownwardDawg View Post
    You're a complete dick these days. Not sure what you have against me but you are a smartass when you reply to my posts. Go **** yourself.
    I know for a fact Byrne told someone he was coming.
    We never had Peterson tell us that. Not even close. Whoever told you that take them off your list of informative people. Sorry you took it so rough. Just a joke man. Chill. And I have nothing against you. Not a thing. Didn't yesterday. Don't today!

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    Dana Holgorsen. He left WVU for more money from Houston. We can beat their pay. He won 12 games in ?21 and finished with a 7-5 record this year. Had some good seasons at WVU. Had plenty of HC experience. Runs the air raid. Ready made roster. Leach coaching tree. Checks a lot of boxes and seems like he would realistically be interested

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC3 View Post
    Dana Holgorsen. He left WVU for more money from Houston. We can beat their pay. He won 12 games in ?21 and finished with a 7-5 record this year. Had some good seasons at WVU. Had plenty of HC experience. Runs the air raid. Ready made roster. Leach coaching tree. Checks a lot of boxes and seems like he would realistically be interested
    I would be fine with him. Think I would consider him above Arnett. But sounds like it’s all for naught and we are just going to hire Arnett.

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    He left to move back to Texas

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    Quote Originally Posted by trojandawg View Post
    He left to move back to Texas
    And more money than WVU wanted to pay him

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC3 View Post
    And more money than WVU wanted to pay him
    WVU didn't care that he left. He hasn't been good at Houston. One good season in 4 years. Two losing seasons. He obviously hasnt taken advantage of the supposed talent pool he moved for. He also failed to realize the transfer portal was coming and would take his top talent. He defines mediocrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    WVU didn't care that he left. He hasn't been good at Houston. One good season in 4 years. Two losing seasons. He obviously hasnt taken advantage of the supposed talent pool he moved for. He also failed to realize the transfer portal was coming and would take his top talent. He defines mediocrity.
    He has won 19 games In the last two years combined. That?s mediocre?
    He 100 percent should be in the conversation

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    Hire Arnett. Pay him $3m a year- that's low, but he'll take it because he's still several years away from a SEC HC resume and we're letting him bypass that. Hire the DC from Syracuse or promote from within to keep that system. Hire Harrell to keep the air raid. Use the extra million we'll save (vs what Leach + Arnett would have cost) on NIL.

    HC is a crapshoot and Arnett has just as good of a chance to work out as the next guy. He's earned it, and he's what's best for the immediate short term too to keep the system stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    Hire Arnett. Pay him $3m a year- that's low, but he'll take it because he's still several years away from a SEC HC resume and we're letting him bypass that. Hire the DC from Syracuse or promote from within to keep that system. Hire Harrell to keep the air raid. Use the extra million we'll save (vs what Leach + Arnett would have cost) on NIL.

    HC is a crapshoot and Arnett has just as good of a chance to work out as the next guy. He's earned it, and he's what's best for the immediate short term too to keep the system stable.
    Well, I'm good with Arnett but let's think this through a bit...the scenario you laid out basically makes him a CEO type of HC and replaces the one thing we know he's good at (being a DC) with a different DC. If we're going that route wouldn't we want to consider a coach with more history/cache for that spot and just keep Arnett at DC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RC3 View Post
    He has won 19 games In the last two years combined. That?s mediocre?
    He 100 percent should be in the conversation
    Is 7-5 what you want? I said he had one good year. Take that one out and it's a losing record. His schedule is nothing too. He's losing to a lot of bad teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Is 7-5 what you want? I said he had one good year. Take that one out and it's a losing record. His schedule is nothing too. He's losing to a lot of bad teams.
    I?m not saying he is perfect. Sonny Dykes had lows too. I?m saying he checks a lot of the boxes and we should consider him as a realistic replacement for Coach Mike Leach for rest his soul.
    my cowbell is louder than yours

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Is 7-5 what you want? I said he had one good year. Take that one out and it's a losing record. His schedule is nothing too. He's losing to a lot of bad teams.
    Same conference dykes was in... he has a better conference record than dykes did at smu

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    I think everyone is forgetting a key factor that is very important to potential HC candidates particularly in the toughest conference in the country. What?s your NIL budget look like right now? You can?t recruit in this landscape without it. Y?all know this, but it?s hard to be successful in any occupation without the resources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    Hire Arnett. Pay him $3m a year- that's low, but he'll take it because he's still several years away from a SEC HC resume and we're letting him bypass that. Hire the DC from Syracuse or promote from within to keep that system. Hire Harrell to keep the air raid. Use the extra million we'll save (vs what Leach + Arnett would have cost) on NIL.

    HC is a crapshoot and Arnett has just as good of a chance to work out as the next guy. He's earned it, and he's what's best for the immediate short term too to keep the system stable.
    How has he earned it? Being our DC for 3 years and interviewing for other jobs doesn't qualify him to be a head coach in the SEC. Can he manage a staff? Can he manage a game? Can he lead recruiting? If we end up with Arnett, fine, but you owe to the program to do a national search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    Hire Arnett. Pay him $3m a year- that's low, but he'll take it because he's still several years away from a SEC HC resume and we're letting him bypass that. Hire the DC from Syracuse or promote from within to keep that system. Hire Harrell to keep the air raid. Use the extra million we'll save (vs what Leach + Arnett would have cost) on NIL.

    HC is a crapshoot and Arnett has just as good of a chance to work out as the next guy. He's earned it, and he's what's best for the immediate short term too to keep the system stable.
    Sounds reasonable to me.

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    Correct. People are making the emotional quick out with saying just promote arnett. I really like arnett but we know nothing about him as a hc. Like Mullen to Moorhead. A lot of people wanted granthsm too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    How has he earned it? Being our DC for 3 years and interviewing for other jobs doesn't qualify him to be a head coach in the SEC. Can he manage a staff? Can he manage a game? Can he lead recruiting? If we end up with Arnett, fine, but you owe to the program to do a national search.
    Thank you. I like Arnett, but this attitude that it should just be given to Arnett seems like a decision made out of convenience instead of competence. If he ends up being the guy, then I will support him 100% but it seems some of the same people saying Deion should have to prove himself in a G5 job before ever being offered the MSU job have abandoned that philosophy with Arnett.

    I would prefer a national search first, then if Arnett is the best candidate, then give him the job.

    Also, the "we could save money by hiring Arnett" is the most MSU/Larry Templeton type of thinking ever.

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    If I were an AD candidate and the President told me I didn?t get to hire my head football coach, the bell cow of the income producing athletics, I tell him to go kick rocks!! Any decent self respecting potential AD wants to hire his Head coaches when positions open up. And placing the interim tag on Arnett for just one year will kill recruiting. A AD should have been hired last week. Now Keenum is in a pickle, unless he plans to make himself the AD.

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    Whatever we do, keep Arnett.

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