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Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
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That's hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Florida must not be a blue blood because they went down in rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro
Peters is a good pick-up, if nothing else but depth!
Apparently we should just quit wasting our time recruiting the top WRs in MS since they are all going to continue to go to OM no matter how many they already have on the roster and no matter that they will continue to suck as a program. SO frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
Usually the biggest selling point is to commit a big time QB prospect first. Heck, when OM committed Eli Manning or Shae Patterson they drew a host of top WRs with them. Not sure how Schrader is viewed by WR prospects but I'm surprised that Schrader's commitment along with JoMo's reputation for wanting to throw the ball is getting a little more interest from some decently rated WRs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
A big time QB helps but it's not above putting kids in the league & showing you will throw it around. Before OM signed Shea they already had Wallace & Kelly who had put up huge #'s passing. Also Eli & Shea were the #1 QB's in the country so that's a lil diff than a 4* pull. Everybody in the country knew Shea.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
JoeMo reputation doesn't matter to MSU. Kids have to see it at MSU. Kids saw Mullen at Florida with Harvin, Demps, & Rainey but we never got those style of players here.
Yep. Until we start putting receivers in the League it's going to be tough to recruit top notch WR's. It's really a catch-22.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
None of the MS WRs this year are can't miss prospects. If OM wasn't loosing 3 WRs this year, they wouldn't touch the field next year. Mingo is likely a DB at OM.
Didn't DD Bowie transfer?
Where did Jamal Couch land?
Depth? He's gonna have to start. Have to.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
Yes, Itawamba I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro
Hinds catching the heck out of passes.
DD went to Northwest but I don't think he's there anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
You're thinking of Reggie Todd & outside of that 1 big half where he scored 3 TD's he's not done much of anything this season.
Do you wear your 'maroon colored glasses' to bed at night?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Are you happy with our recruiting at RB, WR & LB?
you left out OLQuote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
It would help if we told them that they would play early. At least that's how I would sell it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I'm sure we are but results speak louder than words & right now we don't have the results to sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Nope, but repeating it every other page of this thread for four months ain't heppin' anything bro. Everyone on here knows of your discontent to JoMo's recruiting abilityQuote:
Originally Posted by Doggie_Style
Well, I've seen teams that are complete dumpster fires find a way to recruit to fix their weaknesses. We should be able to do that as well. Also, we had Heath an UA AA in our class last year and it looks like we lead for Mason and Harmon in the future so I think we will get it fixed eventually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
Would have helped if we recruited better 2-3 years ago but there's nothing any of us can do about that at this point except watch the clown show.
I'm personally just tired of the excuses. Just go get some WRs that can catch and make plays! Heck, I see Group of 5 schools EVERY WEEK with MUCH better WRs than we have. And we actually had some of the best WRs in our program's history during a time when we were running the dad blame wishbone (Danny Knight, Marty McDole, Glen Young). We've been giving our coaches a pass for too long for not getting any effective WRs into our program. I mean heck, Eric Moulds is the only WR we've put into the NFL worth anything in the past 40 years so are we just going to say because of that 'woe is us, we just can't get nobody'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I blame it on the vodka.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew
I understand that results matter, but we all know that these players all receive a host of benefits wherever they choose to go. The teams that are on the bottom are the ones that "give" the least.
That's really not true. Sure, it happens, but it's rarely the determining factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
Harmon will be a stud. The kid can go get it. And yes, we lead for him but OM won't just let him goQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
2019 WR's - Whats the story USP's Kanoda Lewis? Is Brooks Rayburn going to score TD's on us when he signs with Southern Miss? Think he will take PWO spot from us?
2020 WR's Malik Heath and E. Jai Mason would be a great class but I'm sure by then JoeMo can add one more 90+ talent.
2021 WR's Antonio Harmon looks like a national recruit.
It's rarely the determining factor because most schools with a shot are in the same ball park on what they offer. But certainly if any SEC school just doesn't play the game at all, you'll see them get hammered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Meh. The top talent is going where they've got proof of pro development and/or winning tradition. It carries more weight than a car or a few grand. And yes, everybody does something. We're at a huge disadvantage but it's not due to others giving kids money. It's because we're in MS and the system is rigged to help the blue blood programs. They get the tv time and recruiting bumps. They're taken care of because of the money they produce. Not the money they give kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnson85
Very well said and extremely accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Right, but there's also no doubt that the bigger programs have more money to give. Not necessarily to current guys visiting campus, but to the young prospects. What do I mean? Well schools don't just jump on these kids when they're Sr and Jrs in HS, they try to get the edge by doing a couple hundred $ handshakes to the studs in 8th grade. Sure 99% of those hand shakes are wasted money, but being the first is a huge advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
"We noticed you before any of these other programs. We're the ones who got your moms car fixed 4 years ago when she couldn't pay, got your dad a job when nobody was hiring, and we're the ones who ask every week if you needed anything all these weeks. Sure those other guys are throwing money at you now, but remember who really has your back and believed in you all this time"
A school with more obsessed fans and more money can get on more kids at a younger age. Less money = have to be picky, have to be picky = make sure they'll be a stud first, make sure they'll be a stud first = you're 2-3 years late. All else being equal (which it generally is, a lot of schools have nice facilities, campus, coaches, etc) a kid will pick the school that's been helping their family the longest.
Not true at all other than recruiting starts early. That’s fantasy fan BS. It’s an excuse and not fact. Yeah, you get a Cam deal here or there, but it’s rare. You get schools doing things but it’s not rampant huge money.
Look at the blatant stuff OM was doing. Got them nothing.
Looking at the guys verbally committed, I hope they stay that way after the shitshow last night. MSU cannot compete in the SEC without talent on offense. It is NOT SEC-Level at present. I hope Jarrion Jones will get a shot at receiver, because he looks very good in that capacity at NWR. Unfortunately, he may be a better DB on Sundays, and with our luck that will be what he wants to focus on. Torbor dropped from a 4 to a 3-star as soon as he committed. Not sure what that's about. Kyziah Pruit showed out in his game vs Kosy, so he looks promising. Before the season started, I felt like we could flip one of the OM WR commits (Jackson or Jernigan). Now, we likely write those guys off. If Schrader sticks with his commitment, he will either make JoMo or break him, but the reality seems as though our current staff is only good enough to coach playmakers for success against the weak Big10 defenses not named tOSU.
I'm pretty sure we could flip Jernigan if we wanted to. But that won't even be discussed until we crap out on the JUCO market if I had to guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaroonFlounder
We are still very very much in the game for Mingo. And hes the best WR in the state. Maybe the best player.
Dean hasnt seen the competition Mingo has
I've heard things are starting to trend more our way with Mingo. I know some people think because of our putrid offense this year that it's turning recruits off but some are looking at our situation as an opportunity to play early on offense, especially receivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
We should offer Brooks Rayburn yesterday. Although I am iffier on him than I was before because Hancock has been terrible and Austin Williams hasnt done anything since the KSU game and he struggles blocking right now. Rayburn is faster than Williams was and he is playing in a veer offense so he is prolly a RS if we do take him, but the kid balled out at camp this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by Cary Hudson's little bro
Mingo is our best WR on campus when he comes for visits. Which he has been to several ofQuote:
Originally Posted by Commercecomet24
Agreed. We need him.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Javonta Payton decommits from Ole Miss. He's a JUCO WR but do we go after him?
Should Rodrigues Clark, RB at Starkville High, get an offer? Would he walkon at MSU, if not?
I don't know if Mingo is the best WR or not, but Javeious Purvis is the best player in the state.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****