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08-07-2023, 11:02 AM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

The number being offered to BM is closer to $500K than $250K. Believe it or not, that's his neighborhood. But he wouldn't mind going back to Stanford either which has pennies in NIL to offer. So TAM and us could lose out with substantially larger packages. It's just a matter of what BM wants to do. His family wants him closer, there is one pushing for a large payout (not BM or his mom)...it's a complicated deal all around.

At least MSU is not making this cheap for TAM.

This is money TAM would put into 2-or-3 4-Star OTs for the Football team.

This will also force TAM to pay Laviolette some big money or the locker room implodes.
08-07-2023, 11:58 AM
confucius say

Aggie isn't the only sec school that was willing to pay 500k, allegedly.
08-07-2023, 04:56 PM
bulldogcountry1

If Lemonis whiffs on this guy after whiffing on Holman, it is a really bad look. But, it is a whole new level of bad to be leaving hundreds of thousands of NIL on the table after all the fuss about our fans not contributing earlier and more aggressively. We have heard repeatedly that we could be competitive with anyone in baseball NIL, but the results do not reflect that.
08-07-2023, 05:00 PM
TheLostDawg

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Originally Posted by bulldogcountry1

If Lemonis whiffs on this guy after whiffing on Holman, it is a really bad look. But, it is a whole new level of bad to be leaving hundreds of thousands of NIL on the table after all the fuss about our fans not contributing earlier and more aggressively. We have heard repeatedly that we could be competitive with anyone in baseball NIL, but the results do not reflect that.

That's what happens when you keep a coach that's heading out the door. I think everyone saw this coming. Like it was mentioned above, the pitching coach search was just another sign of how we should have just moved on. I hope that we're wrong
08-07-2023, 07:34 PM
ZedFedder

At this point, our hope rests solely on Justin Parker.
08-07-2023, 07:45 PM
RockyDog

MSU will be fine. No pitching and no additional help offensively. I see this team making it to Omaha. - Todd
08-07-2023, 07:53 PM
Pancho

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Originally Posted by ZedFedder

At this point, our hope rests solely on Justin Parker.

Amen to that
08-07-2023, 07:58 PM
State82

Just out of curiosity I pulled up the final rankings from D1Baseball. The usual suspects come in at the top 7: LSU, UF, Wake, Stanford, TCU, UVA, UT....but then there is Oral Roberts at 8, USM at 9, Indiana State at 11, Duke at 15, Kentucky at 17, Costal Carolina at 21, Campbell at 22, East Carolina at 24 and Dallas Baptist rounds out the top 25. Now, most of these are not Johnny-come-lately programs. They have been hanging around the top tier of collegiate baseball for a while now. And that is the rub. If most of those from 8 down to 25, including Wake, were just showing up for the first time and it was some kind of anomaly for just this year it may be different. But I will be damned if our program should be sitting in its present state with all those programs mentioned sitting where they presently reside. It is total BS. At first I was not too torqued out of shape about keeping Lemonis around and felt like he would pull it together in the offseason with portal work. It is looking MUCH less promising now than it ever did.
08-07-2023, 08:04 PM
BigDawg81

The best bet is to go all in with Jans and the basketball program. There isn?t any sense in drowning in sadness with the baseball program.
08-07-2023, 08:13 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

The best bet is to go all in with Jans and the basketball program. There isn?t any sense in drowning in sadness with the baseball program.

^^^
08-07-2023, 09:27 PM
Pancho

NIL ain't the issue, the stadium and facilities ain't the issue........only 1 dull reason why MSU can't attract a top tier portal player
08-07-2023, 09:41 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by bulldogcountry1

If Lemonis whiffs on this guy after whiffing on Holman, it is a really bad look. But, it is a whole new level of bad to be leaving hundreds of thousands of NIL on the table after all the fuss about our fans not contributing earlier and more aggressively. We have heard repeatedly that we could be competitive with anyone in baseball NIL, but the results do not reflect that.

Look, we didn't lose him bc of Lem, we didn't lose him bc of the staff, we didn't lose him bc of nil. Kid just didn't want to be in state. We were led to believe otherwise for a while. Is what it is.....
08-07-2023, 09:43 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

^^^

Coming from the guy who adamantly wanted Jans fired 5 games into conference. Board is full of them.
08-07-2023, 09:43 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Pancho

NIL ain't the issue, the stadium and facilities ain't the issue........only 1 dull reason why MSU can't attract a top tier portal player

So answer the big mystery:

Lemon has signed B2B Top 10 recruiting classes. Why is he not "dull" then? I agree 100% his portal recruiting has been sub-par but cant understand how he is able to sign top classes regularly
08-07-2023, 09:44 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Look, we didn't lose him bc of Lem, we didn't lose him bc of the staff, we didn't lose him bc of nil. Kid just didn't want to be in state. We were led to believe otherwise for a while. Is what it is.....

This^^^. Hell the family was looking at houses in Starkville and had contacted Starkville Academy for the younger. Every indication people had from the family and sources within the group pointed to him coming...he just didn't get the memo.
08-07-2023, 09:44 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Coming from the guy who adamantly wanted Jans fired 5 games into conference. Board is full of them.

He proved me wrong.
Lemonis is proving me right like Moorhead
08-07-2023, 09:45 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by Pancho

NIL ain't the issue, the stadium and facilities ain't the issue........only 1 dull reason why MSU can't attract a top tier portal player

Again, in this case, at least, you'd be wrong. The staff had a blowout great meeting w him at the cape. He never wanted to come here. It became apparent. BM was appeasing people. Then BM finally won
08-07-2023, 09:46 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

He proved me wrong.
Lemonis is proving me right like Moorhead

I won't argue w that.
08-07-2023, 09:48 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Again, in this case, at least, you'd be wrong. The staff had a blowout great meeting w him at the cape. He never wanted to come here. It became apparent. BM was appeasing people. Then BM finally won

If he never wanted to come here, maybe they shoulda moved on to someone who did.
08-07-2023, 09:51 PM
Pancho

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Again, in this case, at least, you'd be wrong. The staff had a blowout great meeting w him at the cape. He never wanted to come here. It became apparent. BM was appeasing people. Then BM finally won

Not just BM. I'm referring to the glaring reason and the only reason any top portal guys lose interest in MSU. There is just 1 reason and said reason sits on the bucket.

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