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10-05-2019, 04:28 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So tommie Frazier was a bad QB? What about Tebow or Vince young?

I think there are a few exceptions & those exceptions are when guys are complete freaks in other facets of the game, but simply don't possess NFL throwing ability.

Tebow & Young were freaks of nature athletically & size wise. Bo Nix is not.

Cam Newton would've also fit in this category. I would've ranked him a 5 star even if he wasn't as good of a passer as he turned out to be. He was a freak
10-05-2019, 04:29 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I think there are a few exceptions & those exceptions are when guys are complete freaks in other facets of the game, but simply don't possess NFL throwing ability.

Tebow & Young were freaks of nature athletically & size wise. Bo Nix is not.

So nix is a bust bc he isn't tebow or young?
10-05-2019, 04:30 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Dawgology

When in the locker room? I was there and he looked pissed walked onto the field, looked at Fitz and walked off. Did something happen in the locker room?

What exactly is he supposed to do? He threw a fit when it happened and then he moved on. If you don't do that you aren't a very good coach.
10-05-2019, 04:31 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Dan calls out auburn but never said a word about unm being dirty? Wow

Yep. If I was our coach during the 2017 Egg Bowl the "toxic rivalry" meeting that Cohen and Bjork or whoever their AD was would have happened a year early after the all out brawl including beating Luke and the football officials to a pulp.

I also would have been fired for leading a brawl but I would have gone out with "I regret nothing and hell yes I would have done it again. The good news is we really can't tell if Luke's face is swollen or not."
10-05-2019, 04:31 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So nix is a bust bc he isn't tebow or young?

I never called Nix a bust at all. He should've been ranked a 90-92 type player as I've said the entire time. He just isn't the 5 star he was billed to be. His physical skill objectively makes him fall short of that
10-05-2019, 04:33 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

What exactly is he supposed to do? He threw a fit when it happened and then he moved on. If you don't do that you aren't a very good coach.

Protect your damn player is what he was supposed to do. You cuss out the ever living hell out of the official and then you tell your defense to go after their QB.
10-05-2019, 04:33 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Yep. If I was our coach during the 2017 Egg Bowl the "toxic rivalry" meeting that Cohen and Bjork or whoever their AD was would have happened a year early after the all out brawl including beating Luke and the football officials to a pulp.

I also would have been fired for leading a brawl but I would have gone out with "I regret nothing and hell yes I would have done it again. The good news is we really can't tell if Luke's face is swollen or not."

Yep!
10-05-2019, 04:33 PM
ShotgunDawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Dan calls out auburn but never said a word about unm being dirty? Wow

Pretty clear that Dan is emotionally invested at Florida.

At MSU he was emotionally invested into his own success but not in MSU's success. At Florida, he's all in on both ends.
10-05-2019, 04:34 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I never called Nix a bust at all. He should've been ranked a 90-92 type player as I've said the entire time. He just isn't the 5 star he was billed to be. His physical skill objectively makes him fall short of that

Then I've read you wrong, my apologies... I've had a problem with your nix stance bc it sure seems like you're calling him a bust as a true freshman
10-05-2019, 04:36 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Pretty clear that Dan is emotionally invested at Florida.

At MSU he was emotionally invested into his own success but not in MSU's success. At Florida, he's all in on both ends.

Yep that statement at the half was pretty telling. He said absolutely nothing about nicks ankle being destroyed or unm being dirty but he goes off on auburn when the auburn hit was caused by his own player? Never wanted to believe dan was like that but it's very clear he was checked out about halfway through 2017. Dang shame
10-05-2019, 04:38 PM
RocketDawg

Off the main topic ... the Baylor/K. State game is pretty good, but not in the same league as Florida/Auburn.

Beth Mowins is calling the game ....
10-05-2019, 04:38 PM
IMissJack

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Pretty clear that Dan is emotionally invested at Florida.

At MSU he was emotionally invested into his own success but not in MSU's success. At Florida, he's all in on both ends.

I would agree with that. I don't know if it is a love for FL, but he knows that he was in the cat bird seat at MSU. At FL he is just another coach with high expectations, if he is ever going to win it all it will be at FL.
10-05-2019, 04:38 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yep that statement at the half was pretty telling. He said absolutely nothing about nicks ankle being destroyed or unm being dirty but he goes off on auburn when the auburn hit was caused by his own player? Never wanted to believe dan was like that but it's very clear he was checked out about halfway through 2017. Dang shame

Change 2017 to 2015.
10-05-2019, 04:39 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Pretty clear that Dan is emotionally invested at Florida.

At MSU he was emotionally invested into his own success but not in MSU's success. At Florida, he's all in on both ends.

Absolutely true....our job was always beneath him
10-05-2019, 04:39 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Protect your damn player is what he was supposed to do. You cuss out the ever living hell out of the official and then you tell your defense to go after their QB.

Yep. I'm gonna tell you I had a player run over my catcher and throw a forearm into his head and me and the other coach almost came to blows over it. We were both ejected but I couldn't just stand by and let that happen.
10-05-2019, 04:40 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Change 2017 to 2015.

Yeah I think you're right. I always defended dan but it sure looks like everyone was right about him.
10-05-2019, 04:40 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

Absolutely true....our job was always beneath him

Isn't it kinda beneath joe too with his "what do we know about championships" comment?
10-05-2019, 04:40 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by IMissJack

I would agree with that. I don't know if it is a love for FL, but he knows that he was in the cat bird seat at MSU. At FL he is just another coach with high expectations, if he is ever going to win it all it will be at FL.

He was absolutely invested in MSU in year two. But things get old after awhile.

My guess is eventually he will get tired of Florida and try to go to the NFL in a couple of years. Especially after their fans get tired of his recruiting.
10-05-2019, 04:41 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

Off the main topic ... the Baylor/K. State game is pretty good, but not in the same league as Florida/Auburn.

Beth Mowins is calling the game ....

I don't mean this to offend anyone but Beth mowins is really hard to listen to imo.
10-05-2019, 04:41 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Yep. If I was our coach during the 2017 Egg Bowl the "toxic rivalry" meeting that Cohen and Bjork or whoever their AD was would have happened a year early after the all out brawl including beating Luke and the football officials to a pulp.

I also would have been fired for leading a brawl but I would have gone out with "I regret nothing and hell yes I would have done it again. The good news is we really can't tell if Luke's face is swollen or not."

Coaches that do that have trouble keeping a job, and then they have trouble finding one. The way to do it is to pound their team on the field when you see them next. I saw one get accused of running up the score once after his 9th graders had scored 4 times late on the other team's 1st D. The loser got quite vocal and almost physical about it. The winner just looked at him and said, you couldn't stop my Jr high. I'll leave the varsity in and we will score 100 next year. He would have done it too. It ended well for both teams because the loser wasn't coaching in the game the next year. To make a long story short, coaches can't be fans, as much as most of them would like to. I'm sure the winner in my example would have liked nothing better than to have punched that idiot.
10-05-2019, 04:41 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yep. I'm gonna tell you I had a player run over my catcher and throw a forearm into his head and me and the other coach almost came to blows over it. We were both ejected but I couldn't just stand by and let that happen.

I'm not a violent person by any means but sometimes you have to do what you have to do.
10-05-2019, 04:42 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Protect your damn player is what he was supposed to do. You cuss out the ever living hell out of the official and then you tell your defense to go after their QB.

He did throw a fit. If you do the other half of that, you aren't a good coach.
10-05-2019, 04:42 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Coaches that do that have trouble keeping a job, and then they have trouble finding one. The way to do it is to pound their team on the field when you see them next. I saw one get accused of running up the score once after his 9th graders had scored 4 times late on the other team's 1st D. The loser got quite vocal and almost physical about it. The winner just looked at him and said, you couldn't stop my Jr high. I'll leave the varsity in and we will score 100 next year. He would have done it too. It ended well for both teams because the loser wasn't coaching in the game the next year. To make a long story short, coaches can't be fans, as much as most of them would like to. I'm sure the winner in my example would have liked nothing better than to have punched that idiot.

Coaches can stand up for their players. And really should. And Dan didn't. So what I would have done is irrelevant.
10-05-2019, 04:43 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by dantheman4248

Doesn?t help a coach to wallow in anger. He didn?t have the high definition view to confirm it was dirty so he did like a good coach. Showed his emotion to voice his displeasure and try to rally the troops. Then refocused and went back to playcalling a trash game for 3 Qs.

I wasn't at the game (it was on Thanksgiving) so don't know if they replayed it in the stadium or not ... but he certainly had access to high definition television, and the one in the south endzone is huge. It's always seemed to me that we rarely replay controversial plays in the stadium, however.
10-05-2019, 04:43 PM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

He did throw a fit. If you do the other half of that, you aren't a good coach.

I don't have to be a "good coach".

And no he didn't. I was there.
10-05-2019, 04:43 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'm not a violent person by any means but sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

Same here. There's a time and a Place to draw the line in the sand.
10-05-2019, 04:44 PM
Liverpooldawg

Back to the original point of this thread........this has been an enjoyable game to watch, at least for me.
10-05-2019, 04:45 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Back to the original point of this thread........this has been an enjoyable game to watch, at least for me.

This is definitely a fact although I'm sure there are some who would argue it lol
10-05-2019, 04:45 PM
msstate7

Nice design
10-05-2019, 04:45 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I don't have to be a "good coach".

And no he didn't. I was there.

Yes, he did, I was also there. I specifically looked.
10-05-2019, 04:46 PM
Liverpooldawg

Florida QB is back.
10-05-2019, 04:47 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

I don't mean this to offend anyone but Beth mowins is really hard to listen to imo.

To say the least ....
10-05-2019, 04:49 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Coaches can stand up for their players. And really should. And Dan didn't. So what I would have done is irrelevant.

So he is supposed to run across the field and punch out Luke? He got mad as heck, and then moved on. That is what he is supposed to do.
10-05-2019, 04:49 PM
Commercecomet24

Qb draw on third and short with a non running qb. Wow
10-05-2019, 04:50 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Qb draw on third and short with a non running qb. Wow

Bad call after a bad official call
10-05-2019, 04:50 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Florida QB is back.

He was back in toward the end of the first half. He was wearing a knee brace or wrap.
10-05-2019, 04:50 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Bad call after a bad official call

Agreed on both
10-05-2019, 04:51 PM
RocketDawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Bad call after a bad official call

I don't think it was a first down, but it wasn't as much short of it as they placed the ball.
10-05-2019, 04:53 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Isn't it kinda beneath joe too with his "what do we know about championships" comment?

Crap like that hasn?t endeared Joe to the fanbase. Mullen hid his disdain well for a long time.
10-05-2019, 04:53 PM
Liverpooldawg

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Originally Posted by RocketDawg

I wasn't at the game (it was on Thanksgiving) so don't know if they replayed it in the stadium or not ... but he certainly had access to high definition television, and the one in the south endzone is huge. It's always seemed to me that we rarely replay controversial plays in the stadium, however.

It was replayed. We all saw it. I don't know if he did. He pitched a fit, and returned to coaching. What else can you do. He must have done a decent job (even if he did have one foot out the door) because if we had had a few more minutes we would have won the game anyway.

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