Next Head FB coach

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Kiff Kingsbury may be on the market.

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You are dead on. I'm watching the game and thought the same thing.

At this point, it is time to talk to Arnett after the bowl game. If he fits the bill, roll with him... If not, SWING FOR THE FENCES. We cant keep pulling his G5 guys and "hoping" something works out. Enough is enough - the SEC is set to leave us behind if we dont hire the right guy and these risk takers will get us left behind as we try to rebuild around them again. I think if we dont go with Arnett, we have to hit a home run with a big splash hire that can bring recruits here.

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Originally Posted by Medic601

At this point, it is time to talk to Arnett after the bowl game. If he fits the bill, roll with him... If not, SWING FOR THE FENCES. We cant keep pulling his G5 guys and "hoping" something works out. Enough is enough - the SEC is set to leave us behind if we dont hire the right guy and these risk takers will get us left behind as we try to rebuild around them again. I think if we dont go with Arnett, we have to hit a home run with a big splash hire that can bring recruits here.

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When?s the last time we hired G5 guys?

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Originally Posted by Catfish

You are dead on. I'm watching the game and thought the same thing.

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Call him tonight and tell him we've got a ready made team. He's from the Leach tree and we would improve instantly.

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Originally Posted by smootness

LOL no he would not.

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Colorado is a better job than any sec school not named vandy ?

Arnette had the Syracuse job for 1 week then he got the call and came here.

We are a much better opportunity than Colorado or Syracuse

Leach thought we were better than Washington state.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

Call him tonight and tell him we've got a ready made team. He's from the Leach tree and we would improve instantly.

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Meh. He was never as good as Leach at Tech and failed upward to Arizona. He wouldn’t move the needle and would arguably set us back. He has been pretty mediocre at Zona too outside of 1 year.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

When?s the last time we hired G5 guys?

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Im just saying all these names people keep throwing out are "what ifs". Will Hall? The guy is 9-15 at USM... Why do we want to take a chance on something like that? I know a lot of people on here pride themselves in being able to pick out a diamond in the rough but why not go after a splash/headline hire like everyone else in the SEC seems to be doing rather than always going down to a lower tier coach and introduce him to "big football"... why dont we go big and go for a name like Sonny Dykes or someone? I guess I just dont get why people are always suggesting we always go to a lower tier coach and allow them to use us as a stepping stone...

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Originally Posted by msstate7

The offense was struggling this year with one of the best air raid coaches. If we go air raid coaches, we most likely downgrade

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All we needed were some better receivers. That's it. We averaged 30 PPG with Leach this past year.

If we do something like say Dave Clawson offense we're going to need TE's and H-Backs. We have NONE on the roster except for that one walk-on guy who is coming in from Hinds next year who will be converted to a WR. It would be a major shift- not unlike going from Dan to Joe and Joe to Leach. That's what leads to downgrades because the players aren't there to run whatever completely opposite system.

Our guys know the Air Raid. A new coach coming in that is an Air Raid guy is going to have a lot less to teach and make over than someone who runs a different system.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

All we needed were some better receivers. That's it. We averaged 30 PPG with Leach this past year.

If we do something like say Dave Clawson offense we're going to need TE's and H-Backs. We have NONE on the roster except for that one walk-on guy who is coming in from Hinds next year who will be converted to a WR. It would be a major shift- not unlike going from Dan to Joe and Joe to Leach. That's what leads to downgrades because the players aren't there to run whatever completely opposite system.

Our guys know the Air Raid. A new coach coming in that is an Air Raid guy is going to have a lot less to teach and make over than someone who runs a different system.

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This whole situation just sucks.

I wonder if spurrier jr is interested in being OC.

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Originally Posted by Medic601

Im just saying all these names people keep throwing out are "what ifs". Will Hall? The guy is 9-15 at USM... Why do we want to take a chance on something like that? I know a lot of people on here pride themselves in being able to pick out a diamond in the rough but why not go after a splash/headline hire like everyone else in the SEC seems to be doing rather than always going down to a lower tier coach and introduce him to "big football"... why dont we go big and go for a name like Sonny Dykes or someone? I guess I just dont get why people are always suggesting we always go to a lower tier coach and allow them to use us as a stepping stone...

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I’d love to have Dykes. I’d pay him 10 million. But I doubt he comes. The names I mentioned are realistic and guys who might would come and be successful.

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Originally Posted by viverlibre

1) It wouldn't take much for Gus, Dan or any other competent spread option coach to get their system up and running, just get a couple of QBs and RBs from the Portal and you're set. Although the OL has primarily pass blocked for the last few years, they can be trained to run block, most of them likely went through HS in a spread option offense.

2) Deon is absolutely not doing to leave Colorado after just taking the job and putting his players through the portal to sign with Col.

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Gus Mahlzahn would be a MAJOR shift. It's not just QB. Again, we would need TE/H-Backs. We would have to bring in more backs and our o-line would have to change physically. Let me put it this way- Gus's QB at UCF is John Rhys Plumlee. No thanks.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

I’d love to have Dykes. I’d pay him 10 million. But I doubt he comes. The names I mentioned are realistic and guys who might would come and be successful.

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I am by no means a football expert that knows all the ins and outs of a coaching hire but I guess im just saying I wish we would swing for some big name hires rather than dipping down into a lower tier and hoping we pick a good one. Id like to see someone with a proven track record in "big" football rather than someone that has an ok to losing track record at a lower tier... but I see where you are coming from.

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Originally Posted by PikeDawg15

This whole situation just sucks.

I wonder if spurrier jr is interested in being OC.

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The real question is does he want to be the HC?

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

I’d love to have Dykes. I’d pay him 10 million. But I doubt he comes. The names I mentioned are realistic and guys who might would come and be successful.

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We can kick the tires. Even if he doesn't I think there is a chance we could get his OC Garrett Riley.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

Meh. He was never as good as Leach at Tech and failed upward to Arizona. He wouldn’t move the needle and would arguably set us back. He has been pretty mediocre at Zona too outside of 1 year.

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He would have better talent here than Tech.

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Originally Posted by CoachT14

I’d love to have Dykes. I’d pay him 10 million. But I doubt he comes. The names I mentioned are realistic and guys who might would come and be successful.

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Dykes is realistic. The only challenge is the playoff expansion. He'll have a shoe in yearly in that conference.

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Originally Posted by Medic601

I am by no means a football expert that knows all the ins and outs of a coaching hire but I guess im just saying I wish we would swing for some big name hires rather than dipping down into a lower tier and hoping we pick a good one. Id like to see someone with a proven track record in "big" football rather than someone that has an ok to losing track record at a lower tier... but I see where you are coming from.

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We're in a similar situation as we were when Dan left.

Veteran team coming back and potentially on the cusp of a special season.

Short term- it makes sense for us to keep as much in place as possible. But is that the best long term for MSU?

On one hand I don't want to mess up another potentially special season for all of us- so I don't want a Joe Moorhead. But MSU also doesn't need a Bill Stewart situation either where we have one good season- say 9-3- only to be followed up by 2-3 poor seasons and then a rebuild.

Honestly, we need a retread who will keep everyone in place and stay out of the way.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

We're in a similar situation as we were when Dan left.

Veteran team coming back and potentially on the cusp of a special season.

Short term- it makes sense for us to keep as much in place as possible. But is that the best long term for MSU?

On one hand I don't want to mess up another potentially special season for all of us- so I don't want a Joe Moorhead. But MSU also doesn't need a Bill Stewart situation either where we have one good season- say 9-3- only to be followed up by 2-3 poor seasons and then a rebuild.

Honestly, we need a retread who will keep everyone in place and stay out of the way.

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We've got a tough schedule next year. We'll need to tweak some things or get a few bounces for any semblance of this years success.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

We've got a tough schedule next year. We'll need to tweak some things or get a few bounces for any semblance of this years success.

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Never easy in the SEC. Dropping Georgia off the schedule helps. Having the Egg Bowl at home is easier. We have one more home game than this year. We have Kentucky at home. LSU and Alabama struggled on the road this year- we have both in Starkville so that may give us a better chance.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Never easy in the SEC. Dropping Georgia off the schedule helps. Having the Egg Bowl at home is easier. We have one more home game than this year. We have Kentucky at home. LSU and Alabama struggled on the road this year- we have both in Starkville so that may give us a better chance.

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Agreed