Rumor Mill Friday: 3 things I am hearing today...

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Originally Posted by Spiderman

I would always be cautious of a transfer QB unless he was a really special player that the whole team would buy in that he would make them way better.

Every other position isn't that big a deal, but you can sure screw up a team on QB decisions. Sometimes even with QB's you already have.

The QB should be THE leader on the team. I don't care what you say, the QB sets the tone for the whole team.

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Agree. I don't want Franks. I'd go with someone already in our program. We have some good QBs to choose from. I still like Shradder but Rogers, KT, Mayben. One of these guys can get it done.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Agree. I don't want Franks. I'd go with someone already in our program. We have some good QBs to choose from. I still like Shradder but Rogers, KT, Mayben. One of these guys can get it done.

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Maybe, but leach's most successful year at WSU was with a transfer. 3 of the 4 playoff teams had a starting qb that was a transfer. Transfers can lead to immediate success, and also, not one of our qbs was recruited as a pure pocket passer

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Maybe, but leach's most successful year at WSU was with a transfer. 3 of the 4 playoff teams had a starting qb that was a transfer. Transfers can lead to immediate success, and also, not one of our qbs was recruited as a pure pocket passer

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Yea but most of the successful transfer QBs are not ones that played a lot already and were not very good. We can quote 78% completion all day but he was average at best and Florida fans were happy to have a new starting QB. With that said, agree we should at least look at the transfer portal for a QB.

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

Yea but most of the successful transfer QBs are not ones that played a lot already and were not very good. We can quote 78% completion all day but he was average at best and Florida fans were happy to have a new starting QB. With that said, agree we should at least look at the transfer portal for a QB.

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He didn't fit the Florida offense, that's why they wanted a change. Similar to Tyler Russell in that offense.

I don't really care what we do, but the one transfer Leach has had that killed it was also a guy who had played a good bit and hadn't set the world on fire.

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Originally Posted by smootness

He didn't fit the Florida offense, that's why they wanted a change. Similar to Tyler Russell in that offense.

I don't really care what we do, but the one transfer Leach has had that killed it was also a guy who had played a good bit and hadn't set the world on fire.

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As I mentioned, Trask is even less of a fit for Mullen, but he played better because he's just a better QB. Tyler Russell is a lot more comparable to Trask as far as mobility and wanting to be a pocket passer.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Maybe, but leach's most successful year at WSU was with a transfer. 3 of the 4 playoff teams had a starting qb that was a transfer. Transfers can lead to immediate success, and also, not one of our qbs was recruited as a pure pocket passer

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Rogers is. Breiner has compared him to Joe Burrow

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Rogers is. Breiner has compared him to Joe Burrow

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Yeah, he slipped my mind. I would like to RS him at all costs if possible though

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Yeah, he slipped my mind. I would like to RS him at all costs if possible though

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Probably would have been the case if Moorhead stayed. Its not happening now. Needs to put on some weight but mentally and accuracy wise he is the best on campus

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Probably would have been the case if Moorhead stayed. Its not happening now. Needs to put on some weight but mentally and accuracy wise he is the best on campus

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This is most important trait to Leach other than intelligence. I'm not sure we have one as accurate as Leach likes other than Rogers but ... Leach probably could help some with that.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Yeah, he slipped my mind. I would like to RS him at all costs if possible though

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Thanks to the 4 game rule, if we get Franks (or another grad transfer), we could possibly redshirt both Rogers and Shrader, and then let the best man inherit the long-term QB role in 2021.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Thanks to the 4 game rule, if we get Franks (or another grad transfer), we could possibly redshirt both Rogers and Shrader, and then let the best man inherit the long-term QB role in 2021.

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That's really the best case scenario. I'm wondering if Shrader needs time to develop as a team leader in light of the incident at the end of the year.

I understand the hesitation on Franks that some of you are feeling. Initially, I had the same thoughts. But the more I think about it, the more I am willing to accept him. Another thing, subconsciously, is Stevens being fresh on our minds. That didn't go like any of us wanted. But with Franks, even though I know he could be divisive at times, you've got to think that his mindset is, ok, this is it. If I have any chance of making it on the next level, I've got to make the most out of this opportunity. If he comes in with that mindset, all of the other stuff that we're worried about outside of just his ability to get it done, will all fall into place. Hopefully, we have a coach who can determine if that's his thinking or not. I would love to redshirt Rogers this year. I always like to compare a player such as Rogers like, what will his production be his true freshman year compared to his senior year? I'll take the senior year pretty much every time.

I watched Franks play in the Florida/Miami game this year he showed his ass on the field and on the sidelines. We don't need that kind of player.

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Rogers is. Breiner has compared him to Joe Burrow

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Coach Rogers- you laying it on a little thick arent ya?

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

I watched Franks play in the Florida/Miami game this year he showed his ass on the field and on the sidelines. We don't need that kind of player.

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He does seem like a turd. Just by his actions I've seen. I don't know the kid so I can't say for sure. But actions speak louder than words.

Leach hates "look at me" players. He abhors any bit of selfishness

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Coach Rogers- you laying it on a little thick arent ya?

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Haha, don't think that's ole Wyatt.

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Originally Posted by msbulldog

I watched Franks play in the Florida/Miami game this year he showed his ass on the field and on the sidelines. We don't need that kind of player.

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Where were you on Willie Gay? When you have high talent confident kids thats something you have to deal with. We wanted Cam Newton didn?t we? You just have to trust the coach to harness that energy in the right place.

JMO, but it y'all are tryin' to clean up the "culture" at State, the last thing ya need to do is bring in a cat that acts like Franks...

I was watching the game in which he got hurt and immediately thought to myself, "Lawd, Dan just caught a huge break...."

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Originally Posted by TUSK

JMO, but it y'all are tryin' to clean up the "culture" at State, the last thing ya need to do is bring in a cat that acts like Franks...

I was watching the game in which he got hurt and immediately thought to myself, "Lawd, Dan just caught a huge break...."

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Same here.

Not once have I watched that guy & thought he could play

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Same here.

Not once have I watched that guy & thought he could play

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So what happens when If leach brings him in? You gonna say leach is dumb or what?