I didn't know you disagreed with me, but that's okay. Russell is the one that could be swayed... "they" say.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
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I didn't know you disagreed with me, but that's okay. Russell is the one that could be swayed... "they" say.Quote:
Originally Posted by KOdawg1
It was back during baseball season lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
And yeah, Russell is the one I was thinking too. Maybe Moore
It sucks being a Braves and State fan. Doesn?t it?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Good grief man. We get it. You're in the midst of of massive freak out. We got it the first 20 times you posted. Give it a rest.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
If we finish ranked 25 or below when the dust settles, I'll join you in disappointment. Until then, just chill man. You're going to give yourself an ulcer.
Haha, nah... I'm actually happy with the state of all my teams (big 3 at state, braves, and saints).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
#3 prospect in the State. Sure they sell the NFL at OL due to Tunsil & Little. Morris probably not too happy. Lots of new coaches having trouble with that 2nd year whiz-kid HC Matt Luke and his probation affected recruiting machine.******Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Mania, the restriction of 1 unofficial visit per recruit for the 4 year duration of their probation is worse than the 4 or 5 scholarships per year they should have given them. First of all it is a reminder to potential recruits that Mississippi has a black mark on them. If you can't get them on campus you can't legitimately recruit them. Recruits are going to commit to places they are comfortable with. You cannot get comfortable with 1 visit!Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
25th is what we've been doing with a lazy recruiter as HC. This year will be the best season of the last 4, with the best instate class in decades, and a staff that spends more energy recruiting. Not improving the end results when your effort, on field results, and talent pool are all improved is a significant disappointment. We'll have missed our chance to improve from being an 8-4 program, and I'll have big question marks about how well future recruiting will go with 1/3rd the 4* in MS. Anything worse than #20 is a missed opportunityQuote:
Originally Posted by Shooter McGavin
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Originally Posted by Shooter McGavin
No, I don't agree, that's not worse. It's a hit for them but no way is that worse than actually having to offer 4 or 5 less scholarships per year for a few years. Guess that visit thing will take effect in the future since the sanctions weren't valid during the appeal and I'm glad they are getting something but scholarship reductions would have been worse. If you don't think OM will figure a way to skirt that visit sanction then you don't know OM.Quote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
All it takes is one time for the bagmen to "show the love". If that's really what's going on with their top targets, none of that will change. Only people it might affect are the mid 3* that the boosters don't give much $$ too. All the top targets will still have a "good time" in Oxford on that 1 visitQuote:
Originally Posted by msbulldog
Their fans and staff sell Ole Miss with infinitely more belief and passion than us.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenheadDawg
MSU fans are the equivalent of a car salesman that really likes their car but will tell you that others are better. Gotta be realistic right?
Until that infections is cured in our fanbase, we'll never recruit at a high level.
This staff is awesome but they can only take a fanbase so far when they don't promote or believe in the place.
The mindset of our fan base sucks and things won't change until that does
You guys expect the staff to do everything while OM fans are selling Oxford, the girls, etc like it's the greatest thing on Earth.
Guys, it just hit me. This was/is all part of a master plan by the NCAA. Light, meaningless penalties 1st go around. OM enters false sense of security. Business as usual. Small slip up. NCAA pounces! Death penalty/SMU 2.0!**** Time to go take my meds from last meltdown.******
Lol...some of you guys are unreal. Ole miss will always recruit well due to money. Who cares? The players that want to be here will. It doesn't take a top 5 recruiting class to be successful. This 2018 team is considered a national threat and yet we never cracked a top 10 recruiting class.
But S'gun, in all of his wisdom, says it's us, the fans!! When Freezus and the Network were clicking' on all cylinders w/ hookers, cars and cash... it was still us then too. Hell, I'm sure that my negative thoughts are THE reason Freddie Milons went to Alabama!Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
Yeah, people don't normally accept what they don't want to hear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
MSU people are typically shitty sales people. It's a hindrance we must solve.
That or they don't realize recruiting is sales. MSU people believe recruiting is about logic or some other BS.
Recruits believe what you tell them too.
There's nothing we can do about Ole Miss. There's nothing anyone else will do about Ole Miss. They cheated and got reported probably 100 times before Tunsil ****ed 'em on national television. The NCAA was JDAMed with the burden of proof with their backs against the wall, when all they really wanted was just leave it alone and get out of town. Now we watch them shake our class up, and we sit back and watch it. When you consider the long line of crooks affiliated with that program it should leave no room for surprise. Nothing has changed.
Let's harness this.
Blah, blah, blah... give me or any MSU fan a bag of cash with a chick waiting in a hotel and I'll get you just about any football player you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
So you're saying we should have a recruit-a-palooza weekend with $100 hand shakes, alcohol and loose women?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Auburn showed everyone the blueprint - fight and sue! 17 'em, Lets go "all in". We'll even have wrist bands that say that... oh wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Plus 10000+....this is exactly it! I?m actually shocked that our staff is doing such an average job at it. The low key ?Top Dawg? weekend was a joke...you have to paint a picture for this kids where you are the wizard that is going to make their bag...ugh...dreams come true! Of course performance on the field is essential but it takes both to be Championship material.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Get back with me when signing day comes. Its ok. I never said I knew where he was going. He hasnt made a spectacle about his recruitment and he isnt going to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turfdawg67
Moorhead has us in the game with him, and others. Mullen wouldnt. Thats an upgrade
State is not the flashy school and we are never going to be. Its not who we are. But you cant argue with the fact that since we hired Sherril we have beat them more than they have beat us. At worst we made up the ground from when the entire athletic dept. thought we couldnt compete so we said the hell with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
I will agree with you OM people are more obnoxious though
I'll agree with the last part. Or in the words of Preacher... ^^^This!Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Where in the hell do fans have to sell themselves to recruits to make them believe that we believe in the program. And yes, I do expect the staff to do everything recruiting-wise because it would be a violation of any of us interjected ourselves in the recruiting process. What the hell else to do you expect us to do beside show up on game day and show our support. That's what recruits should only see from our fans. Hell I guess you expect us fans to show up on recruiting weekends and meet up with players at the bars and blow smoke up their ass about how great MSU is. I have plenty of passion for this school but I have family to take care way before I go act like a douche OM fan and go and try to meet recruits and jerk them off to get them to come to my school. We have a coaching staff that gets paid damn good to recruit, not me. Your post was about the dumbest damn thing I've read in a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Clemson has become flashy, Auburn flashy, A&M flashy. They are made up of the exact same people as us.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Why do you put limits on what we can be?
Let me guess....."because you are being realistic"
Once again shotgun, dumb as hell. Our staff better be selling the crap out MSU and the vision they have for it. Only thing we can do legally is fill the stadium and show support. Now supporting illegally is another matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
You clearly have no comprehension of what I meant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Maybe we should start a top secret Twitter chat for croots and boosters***Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Tu no comprendeQuote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Do the schools I mentioned above do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by RezDog7
You obviously didn't state it very well. You pretty much said the mindset of our fan base sucked compared to OM and recruiting won't change until it does. Well I'm saying our mindset shouldn't affect recruiting one bit unless nobody shows on game day. That's the only place I can think of where recruits should see how much fans care(legally of course).Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Explain away again please!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
It’s not the staff. It’s the admin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
No. Im not saying we cant be any of them. Im saying we will never be OM. OM sells a different product than we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Idk how much time you have spent in Oxford but all it takes is one night and you will see the difference in it and Starkville. Not saying they are better. That just appeals to some kids just like we appeal to some kids
Auburn and Clemson both arent going to appeal to some kids. They are a lot like us. A&M is trying to be something they arent. You've seen how that is going
OK but admin. was never mentioned in previous posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
The top 3 offensive players in the state of Mississippi are currently committed to Ole Miss.
If we concede the WRs because of Ole Miss' offense, then we should get Ealy right?
Why is Ealy committed to an offense that can't run the ball?
The fact of the matter is that Moorhead just took some chin kicks and got a big fat welcome to the SEC.
It happens to every new SEC coach. We'll see if he can get up and fix this.
At current status, our recruiting class is unacceptable considering the in-state talent available. Long time till signing day though and we've got a bunch of wins ahead of us.
Our class isn't unacceptable. That's ridiculous. If you want to say the offensive portion of the class, then fine. But we've got a load of defensive talent coming in.
Ealy feels like a flip. I have no idea what he's going to do, but it feels like he's moving in our direction.
There is at least a 75% chance Ealy never plays college sports, not someone you want to rely on fill our hole at RB. Of course he's worth the risk but still...we have a huge problem at RB and LB and WR has been a huge disappointment. We have no momentum and that worries me with other teams salivating over our DL commits. Our staff needs to get after it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot