You're either a bigger dipshit than usual, or you think we all are. Nobody would sincerely label that as "cleared of wrongdoing"Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
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You're either a bigger dipshit than usual, or you think we all are. Nobody would sincerely label that as "cleared of wrongdoing"Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Where are you getting 42 from? I see 10 and 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I'd be Ok with Lebby as long as he nails his DC hire.
8 per year equals 32. 10 for buyout. 42. Sorry wasn't clear in my post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
literally what the court said- I'm good with it. But damn man- if we get to Lebby on the list after missing on the 6-7 other targets- we have to just hold our nose and do itQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
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I don't think the issue is Lebby. It's Briles. If that post is the ruling by the court, it doesn't clear him in my eyes. IF a college aged girl reported a sexual assault to him and he did nothing about it, such as report it to the police or administration, he's a POS. You don't have to have training to be a decent human being. If we get down that far and Lebby is there then so be it. Briles should be nowhere around the program in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
It "literally" isn't though, not even close. You're referring to one particular case out of dozens, and a plaintiff losing a case does not and has never meant that the defendant was "cleared" of anything, just that that particular instance isn't proven. But even if you want to go so far to say he's exonerated on that one case, there's still dozens of others where he's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
The texts between him and his AD (who still works as Liberty's AD btw) make it explicitly clear that Briles was covering up crimes and intimidating victims - he comes right out and says it in them. You can read about them here: https://www.dallasnews.com/news/2017...court-records/ (2017) or the ones that just dropped this month: https://defector.com/the-just-reveal...at-youd-expect
Have you had a serious conversation where you LISTENED to a 16 - 21 year old zoomer? Kids these days are some of the most passionate and radical for any cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Any amount of Briles and Lebby would bring severe backlash. I know my donataions and support for the football team would dry up until my university got its shit together. There are several whom feel the same way. It's the worst hire we can reasonably make. And it scares me that none of our big mouth pieces are squashing it. It's not only a risk in the football since, it's a horrendous risk in the public perception arena.
I'm disappointed it's gotten this far.
Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I won't hold Lebby responsible for his father-in-law's poor behavior, but I would definitely expect Briles not to set foot on campus as anything other than a fan during Lebby's entire tenure.
Bingo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
The fact Lebby is being held for what his father in law did is nuts. And I ageee w you on briles. He's a no goQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Jeff Traylor is a very good coach. If Texas A&M doesn't hire him, I think we should really consider him.
Im good with BrilesQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
He's talking about art.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
I'm not sure he's wanting to take the lunge our way. Could be wrong but don't believe soQuote:
Originally Posted by NCDawg
I lived in Waco around that time and can tell you Briles did some shady stuff, and not only swept it under the rug, he had local media and law turning an eye. Like a TSUN culture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Google the articles about the transfer that came from Boise. Briles claimed he had no idea of the troubles of the guy, and Petersen publicly called out Briles about that and said he called Briles and told him do not take the kid and told about the trouble he had caused and was dangerous.
If you want to say a court simply got him off the hook, then so did OJ as well.
But Briles, and his family was doing some shady crap at Baylor.
Let me edit: Saying it was shady is actually too nice a term for what Briles was doing. If it was anyone here who had a daughter handled by Baylor and Briles the way the did, I would put money down one of you would have put him in the hospital for it.
Here is the article of Petersen calling out Briles. Anyone here trying to defend this POS needs to get off this board.
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa...jiz2hwro8126lu
" Baylor coach Art Briles denied knowing anything about Ukwuachu’s violent past, but Petersen essentially called Briles a liar in a statement Friday released to ESPN.com.
"After Sam Ukwuachu was dismissed from the Boise State football program and expressed an interest in transferring to Baylor, I initiated a call with coach Art Briles," Petersen's statement said. "In that conversation, I thoroughly apprised Coach Briles of the circumstances surrounding Sam's disciplinary record and dismissal."
Petersen’s side of the story is far different from Briles' account. When asked if Boise State informed him of linebacker’s disciplinary record, Briles said all the coaching staff knew about the defensive end before recruiting him was that he was depressed and homesick. "
All this pearl clutching is just so typical of the Mitippy Tate way. Wake the 17 up folks. This has become a zero sum game that is driven by ESPN/ABC Disney. They will dictate what when and where for the foreseeable future in college athletics. We have a product to put on the field that sells or not. If we don?t we?re out period. Get used to it.
I don?t want lebby as head coach but I ABSOLUTELY agree with you on this post wool!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I don't count the 8 per year going forward as coming out of that fund. The 8 per year to our new coach is just out of the normal budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I don't hold what Briles did against lebby.
But i do hold lebby teaponaible for bringing Briles on the field after OK specifically told him not to per Castiglione.
Look I do not know how any of this has to do with Jamey Chadwell and I believe we would have to get pretty far down the list to get to Jeff Lebby but I will give my thoughts on the situation nonetheless.
From strictly a FOOTBALL standpoint, Lebby would be an ok hire. He runs an up tempo offense that can score but it would mean we missed on A LOT of candidates. I will tell you that the one person OM fans do not want us to hire is Jeff Lebby. They realize he knows how Lane operates, his tendencies, how he uses the portal, etc. Now, saying all that, you have to be ready for the media firestorm when you hire Lebby because Briles would be visible and that would cause all sorts of drama and bad press that we may not need to bring on a 1st time 1st year HC. I just do not know if we want to bring that all upon our program, especially for a 1st time HC. I mean if Lebby had Briles resume then yea it may be worth the risk, but do we really want to bring all that for a gamble hire.
It's not pearl clutching if people don't want a low life POS as our coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Is OU being "poor ole OU" for being adamant that Briles is not to be on their sidelines? No, it is realizing they want no part of a guy that brought in and concealed violence and rape on his campus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Well we aren't spending anywhere near the number given on buyouts. Not remotely close.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
So many people in this thread don't want to blame Lebby for what his "father in law did" when Lebby was there and complicit.
Those same people also wants to attribute Lenny's with what his father in law did for his potential success when Lebby wasn't there for all of it.
And then further a subsection is saying in the same sentence that it wasn't Lebby, it was Art, but let's have Art on campus anyways.
Disgusting. The dude is mediocre. This isn't a Nick Saban hire. This is a guy with a similar maybe worse resume than Joe Moorhead.
That is kind of where I am at. If Lebby had the resume of Art Briles I would be more willing to take the gamble, but he would be a first time HC. Why place that much of a risk and that much of a potential media shit storm for a first time HCQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
As I tread the stairway to heaven while being comfortably numbQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Yes. Extremely childish and petty. But hell, I'm ready to win some football games. Whoever it is. Get it done.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Arizona is 8-3 now after knocking off Utah.
Their coach used the transfer portal quite well.
I like him.Quote:
Originally Posted by memsu06
Lebb would be another disaster. Its time to quit being cheap and go get someone that can turn this thing around. Or keep being a doormat
Willingly associating our program with Art Briles is the quickest way for us to stop having a "product that sells." I think some of you just don't grasp how cancerous he would be to recruiting, donations, fan interest, etc., and he would be bringing down the whole university, not just the football program.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I was told Briles has been in the conversation since before ZA was fired.
Ole Miss and Auburn seem to get away with it OK.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Which Briles?Quote:
Originally Posted by OhGee
No one that either of those schools has hired has been anywhere near as bad as Briles. I mean, yes, Chris Beard is a piece of shit, but Briles is on a tier by himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Even those 2 programs would have a fan revolt if they tried to hire him
nobody is saying to hire Briles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking