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Originally Posted by msstate7
I was wrong. Biden did plant seeds of distrust on the vaccineQuote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
To be fair to you, he?s just TRYING to read the script written by his handlers. I?m just proud he didn?t include end of quote or end of message while reading it. That itself is a positive. I guess. 😎Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Did you notice the jump cuts in the Biden parts? Did that not ring some alarm bells for you that there may have been some out of context editing?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I?ve not once said that. Please feel free to find where you think that was stated. Try again.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Help him out. Post an unedited version that helps defend Biden against the obvious smear campaign being conducted by a heavily influenced government media. 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
If & when the vaccine comes, it?s not likely to go through all the tests and the trials that needs to be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
When we finally do God willing get a vaccine, who?s gonna be the first one to take the shot, are you gonna be the first one to say put me, sign me up? They now say it?s ok.
FWIW? He?s right about one thing, they weren?t put through all the tests & trials, not to mention they?re wanting to hide the data of said small sample size trials for 75 years.
Hard to spin the hesitancy vibe in his words here, but you?re somehow trying to. This type of blindness is why you can?t be taken serious on the subject.
The Dem party has never done anything Q would condemn. We're all partisan to a certain degree, but some (Q) are extremeQuote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
Q? Like Q Anon?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Im afraid Tuesday your going to see lockdowns placed which is stupid and uncalled for. Want to know how serious Omicron is look at South Africa hospitalization are low and deaths are almost nonexistent with this variant but let's lock down the country again... it's getting stupid. It's time to just go on about our lives.
I'm pretty sure you don't really think that. You yourself have given me credit for fairness and level-headedness several times in years past.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
This is correct, that fallacy was by 662 and others. your posts have stuck to the position that just because I don't fully agree with your position that I'm an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dak Holliday
I'm sure I have. You have to admit though that you're far left. No one would mistake you for ManchinQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Lol. He?s speaking of Quaoarsking. It?s hard to believe anyone in America could take up for the Marxists democrats at this point tho. It?s just mind boggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dak Holliday
FWIW I consider myself a conservative, not Republican. Republicans align more with my thinking than Dems, but I don?t trust them either. I don?t trust any politician, government agency or media outlet. If any of them tell us something I always look deeper into it to confirm it?s true. Very rarely do you get the full truth from any of them.
Well, given what we suspected then and know now of how Trump was politicizing covid info, what person wouldn't be suspect of a vaccine under him?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Don't trust the Dems if you don't want to (plenty of reasons for that), but it doesn't make sense to attack them for....not trusting Trump but trusting themselves?
Pretty big gap there, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Please feel free to point out the fallacy. I?m open to changing my mind if you can bring facts to change it. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Wait.. what? LMAO. I?m not happy at Trump myself but to say he was the one politicizing Covid info is the absolute dumbest comment made in this entire thread 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
And if someone is blindly trusting anyone from the government, no matter which side of the aisle they?re on? they?re ignorant.
As said above, that the vaccine must prevent 100% of infections and stop 100% of transmission to have utility.Quote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
Check the news, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
That?s not my words, that was basically the definition PRIOR to this new flu vaccine. It changed, which I proved. I specifically State that NOTHING is 100%. Either you can?t read or choose to overlook the truth, which is a very typical thing for a democrat to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Fallacy -
a mistaken belief, especially one based on unsound argument.
I didn?t mistake it, I showed proof that the definition changed.
You don?t have to nor should you fully agree with most people.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Also, I don?t think that you are an idiot. I think that you are a useful idiot. A person with good intentions that because of a very idealistic POV is easily manipulated into supporting causes that seem good and excuses the underlying political agenda as a means to an end. They?re exploited for having good nature.
I think Manchin is basically just left of center. I'd say if Manchin is Missouri, Q is at least NevadaQuote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
😂 for a second that threw me a curve ball. Caught me skimming as I was getting dressed for church.Quote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
I?ve lived long enough to realize that in my experience, neither side really cares much for the well being of the American people. There?s a reason neither side really gets much done even when they have the control. Both sides spend a large majority of their efforts dividing us into a ven diagram that allows them to disregard the populous as a whole.
Haha? nah I don?t trust either side, it?s just that the democrats are openly evil. Literally Satan?s little spawn deceivers. I would say that most of the 10-15 voters they have left are as you say, useful idiots. Willingly deceived.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dak Holliday
At least you can find a little truth in a Republican at times lol.
I'm against all vaccines. I was made to take the oral polio when I was 6 or so and I've had about 3 or so tetanus shots in my life when I've stepped on rusty nail or cut myself on something rusty. I've always thought flu shot was a bunch of bullshit too.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Dude, no one cares what some scientifically-illiterate English major wrote down as the dictionary definition of the word "vaccine". Your fallacy is your ARGUMENTS that a shot has no utility unless it is 100% effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
Be careful using the term evil as a generalization. I honestly believe that many on both sides are misinformed, but the leadership on both sides leave much to be desired. The political machine is not a friend to the citizen on any side. I honestly believe that the political stance of each side must be of conflicting nature. This time, you get to be virtuous. Next time, I get to be. It helps draw the dividing lines that rob us of our power to make our government actually work for all of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
Lol, that is really damn far from what I believe. I strongly adhere to the principle that most of us are shit out of luck. That you jumped to that completely wrong conclusion does tell us something about how exploitable you are however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dak Holliday
Ironically, Manchin is my favorite senator (it's a love-hate relationship), as he may have the highest "Value over Replacement" for any single member of Congress in US history. West Virginia was Trump's 2nd best state, and more Republican than any state is Democratic.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
That's pretty surprising to me. Perhaps I read you wrong... this would be the 2nd or 3rd time I've been wrong on this board hahQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
But you?re ball face lying. How?s that for fallacy?Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
The problem of course is that currently the Dems are letting the entire party be defined by Manchin. It was obviously the wrong tactic from the beginning, and it is past time for Biden to switch gears. Stop making compromise-filled sausage bills that don't even pass and start pushing bills the rest of the party can gladly stand behind, and let the rest vote them down. Meanwhile, use Executive power boldly and without apologizing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I'm not lying and have no need to.Quote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
He?s 100% far left on the this topic. You read him correctly this time lol. Now maybe he?s more center on other topics, but he?s certainly not on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I said your ball face lying because you are lol. I specifically state nothing is 100%. You keep lying & saying I said otherwise. I cannot help what a definition states & how they changed it to fit this new shot because they new it wasn?t going to work like they had promised. That isn?t on me.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Anyways, stop with your fallacy & HailState 😁
That blue line is pointing north the last 3 weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Sure thing. Useful idiots typically struggle seeing that they?re being used. Maybe your intelligence and self awareness rival one another. It?s fine that you are a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
So, you agree what a vaccine can do a whole lot of good even if it is "leaky", that some vaxed can still catch or transmit the disease?Quote:
Originally Posted by 662dawg
Newsflash bud, they changed it because the definition was always scientifically wrong, it's just that Noone noticed or cared before. There was no "need" to change it to match some incorrect perception that the covid Vax isn't a vaccine. (Which by the way is part of the fallacy you are calling me a liar for pointing out). Here you are repeating the fallacy that you called me a liar over!
what percentage of omi cases in Europe are from vaccinated persons?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
When 75% of eligible persons in America are vaccinated and Covid is "spreading like wildfire" according to Fauci, it's not just unvaccinated cases. There are not enough unvaccinated persons left to drive the numbers as high as they are going right now.
The vaccine has its purposes. No doubt. But preventing infection is not one of them.
(I'm vaccinated and had Covid).