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Originally Posted by DEDawg
I actually would be OK with 50. Our team was awful. I don't want to continue whatever culture we have going anyway. And what would be an implosion for us? Losing to UMass and going 1-11?Quote:
Originally Posted by Walkerhill
Not a good day for any sources, some of mine included, but they did hit on this one. Jackson Arnold is in the portal.
Half right...he's got to sign here too. Lol. I kidQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Oh he does and he will be very coveted. But we have Lebby and legit the only reason Jackson Arnold went to OU was Lebby.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Would be huge. I think if we get him, you have to let MVB go unless he is happy not getting SEC QB1 money and an open competition. With KT signing, if we get JA one of MVB or Shapen is gone and maybe both. Could see us rolling with JA starter, a G5 transfer as backup, KT as the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
From what I?ve been told we have been in communication with them for several weeks now. Is that what you?re hearing?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Since after the Tennessee game where they replaced him. I tried to tell folks that nothing changed after the Bama game. We have been communicating with him and Van Buren is aware of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
If MVB gets what he wants and Shapen gets what he did last year, it would cost us close to 2.5 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
That is nearly triple what Walter Nolan got from the bears.
If we are paying the QB room 2.5 million, we better be getting Cam Ward level production.
Looks like Pounders is getting processed out.
Talk about waste of money?.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Neither would get what they want though. Shapen will be taking a drop for sure if he stays.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Would be a solid guard but I believe this is Percy 2.0?too many people just had to have him but he was a good guard that we paid LT money to. We have got to start doing better ID?ing true tackles. Last one we had that I can remember would either be Cross or Rankin or Clausell.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I was told they were asking Shapen to move on but who knows. Maybe Will has a grad year to come in and back-up? HAQuote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
I think it depends on how it shakes outQuote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
ETA. On Shapen, not Will. Lol
Is the Jackson Arnold thing real?
If you mean him entering the portal? Then yes. If you mean his interest in reuniting with Lebby? Then also yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Aaron Murray had a tweet that said "Mississippi State" with Arnold's announcement. FWIW.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I think Shapen is the first domino.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Ive been told that we want him back but not at the number we paid him this year, I do not see anyone paying him much so hopefully he takes a pay cut and stays.
My understanding is that we are going all in on Arnold. Especially with what MVB wants. I agree with that philosophy too. Arnold is simply better and we get the publicity that we desperately need right now. Plus he most likely gives us two years which is optimal for KT.
Arnold will give us two out of all likelihood but understands that if Kamario progresses quickly he will challenge him in 26. Jackson will still win but he is the guy. I still think there's a chance that Van Buren stays but I believe he is trying to maneuver his way to Auburn.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
AU cant pin their hopes to MVB. I think he has potential, but Freeze needs 8+ wins next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I would expect AU to look to land a top 5 portal QB after dealing with Thorne this year.
14 transfers out so far. I would expect probably 8-10 more.
But again who would want Shapen? I wouldn't be shocked if a reduced offer from MSU was his best offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
He's injury prone and will be limited in spring practice for whoever he plays for.
A G5 team will take a chance. It will just be does he want money or a chance. We will still probably be the best money offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He is pursuing Auburn a lot harder than they are pursuing him at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
We need to be strong here, he does not have the leverage he thinks he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If we can get Arnold, you make it happen.
It probably doesn't mean much, but when you look at Jeff Lebby's X account for who he is following, Jackson Arnold is the top name on that list. I don't know how X sorts who you are following. I do know that in the past, Jackson Arnold has been on that list but wasn't the top name. Like I said though, it probably doesn't mean much. It does seem very likely that he ends up at Mississippi State, because he almost did it last season.
Lebby would tell you, and he has privately told people this, he should have gone after Arnold and not Gabriel last year. Arnold would have come last year and until they made all these promises to him, he was going to enter the portal anyways and come here and just compete with whoever we brought in.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
The plan has been, and I checked on it yesterday after people told me I was wrong on Monday, and still is to bring in Arnold and let him compete with Van Buren/Shapen/another transfer. Arnold will win that battle and will be our QB in 25 and 26 while Kamario is getting ready and we will be ready to roll on the second year of the schedule change with the most physically gifted QB Lebby has ever coached and a veteran team.
In the words of Sam Hinkie, Trust The Process.
I don't see any world where we have Arnold/MVB/SHapen in the QB room. Arnold is going to be demanding a big number and he can probably get it. MVB is demanding a big number, but I don't think he can get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Shapen is already being paid a solid number, and will he take a pay cut? If not, there is no way we can have all three on campus in the spring. You would be talking about 3.5 to 4.0 million in the QB room?
No chance that happens.
Arnold's number isn't as big as you think. Van Buren's number is and I believe he will end up transferring. He is trying to maneuver his way to Auburn but he is more interested in them than vice versa. There's 4-5 names in front of him on their board. On Shapen, we have discussed things with him. He knows if he comes back it's at a much lower number and it's probably to be a backup. There's contigency plans already in place to go out and get a G5 guy to be a backup if Shapen and Van Buren both walk.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I trust what you are saying on this, but I can't see how MVB decommits from Oregon because he wants to play for Lebby at Mississippi State and then decides that he'd rather play for Hugh Freeze at Auburn. It makes no sense. Hugh is the most overrated coach in the conference. His offense is a joke, and MVB will be committing career suicide if he made that move.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Because someone from Auburn, not affiliated with the staff, got in the ear of his representatives and told him how much Auburn would pay him. This happened after the UGA game. It's no coincidence that Van Buren was reposting a lot of the Auburn commits on his story yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I think if it was today and MVB stuck to his number, Arnold would cost less. Let that sink in.
Well then this is a no brainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Auburn is going to be mentioned with every QB. They are on Salter harder than any of them right now though. That's Hugh's guy and who he wants. They are also in on Miller Moss. And the will be in on Noah Fifita once he enters. He is probably the one they would ditch Salter and go really hard after.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I saw this somewhere else, but any truth to the statement that David Turner is not currently under contract for next season?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
His contract expires Jan 31. Holceck is the one that doesn't have a contract right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
He is not. Neither is Barnes. Turner's contract won't be renewed and I do not believe Barnes' will. It's why I think you see Odom shift to Safeties, Coleman shift into STC coordinator and either keep the LBs or split them into inside/outside, and bring in a DC to coach that position or DL. Also a possibility we swing a big stick and try to get Freddie Roach from Bama to coach DLQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
I am assuming that he is the most likely coach to be replaced at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?