Please stop testing athletes for Covid

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Originally Posted by Dak Holliday

When we allow the government to break the law during times of emergency, they?ll happily create emergencies to break the law.

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Amen brother. We asked for, IT!

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Originally Posted by Dawg_Lover

True. Winston Churchill famously once said, ?Never let a good crises go to waste?.
This is a little off subject, but it is worth telling. Unless you?ve really studied history, you may not know he actually lived it. There is a good book that exposes the real Churchill & how he selfishly sacrificed innocent lives of men, women, and children, including Americans. It is ?Dead Wake: The Last Crossing Of The Lusitania?, by Erik Larson. I highly recommend it.

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Ordered per your recommendation.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

Something is very weird and suspect about those numbers. Either the tests are bad (could it be sabotage?), or there are a lot more players lying about their vaccine status.

If breakthrough infections were really this common, it would be showing up in a lot more cases than just the NFL.

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Or the shots(not vaccines) just don?t work as intended?

I can?t disagree with the thought of NFL/Other pro sports players lying about it though. I?ve thought about this same scenario bc it?s really odd that international sports teams are having tons of players with newfound heart troubles & America hasn?t seen much of that, yet. It does make one wonder.

Every single person that I know that?s tested positive for the new flu lately has been vaccinated. I agree that the tests are sh*t, but it?s still odd that everyone I know testing positive is ?vaccinated?

My mother has also developed heart troubles after being vaccinated. Never had the first sign of heart troubles prior. My 90ish year old grandmother has tested positive twice since being vaccinated, basically only had headaches. She also got very sick a third time & tested negative. Weird huh? My aunt has had this flu twice since being vaccinated & her husband recently died of a heart attack after being vaccinated(to be fair? he did have prior heart troubles)

These are the only 4 family members that I KNOW for sure are vaccinated & they are the reason no one else in our family will ever consider being vaccinated.

I?m sure many people have had different experiences with this entire ordeal & maybe it has helped some people & that?s ok, it?s why people need to make health decisions based on their personal experiences & personal choices.

It?s also why I will never trust anyone that tries to force something medical(especially a shot they pretend is a vaccine & had to change the definition in order for it to fall under said category) on me because everyone has different experiences & different reactions.

That said, ..Covid..has had zero affect on me or anyone in my family, as far as being bad sick, hospitalized, death, etc? none.

My wife ..tested.. positive while pregnant & she till this day says the test was FOS bc it was the same minor sinus troubles she gets every year(her job forced her to get tested)? while the vaccine has directly affected my family & that?s with very little of my family even taking it. 3 of the 4 regret getting it & 1 didn?t live to tell us wether he regrets it or not.

Speaking of vaccines, someone needs to get to work, for; "and of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, thou dost not eat of it, for in the day of thine eating of it -- dying thou dost die.', says God Almighty.

What's the FDA's explanation on wanting 75 years to release data they used to approve vaccine in less than 6 months?

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Originally Posted by BoomBoom

Just get rid of all the speed limits. If you are scared, don't get on the roads. Let's get rid of the military too. If you're scared of China or whoever, just don't leave your house.

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😂 Speed limits have never been about safety. They were implemented at the speed rate at which your car is most fuel efficient due mainly to a fuel embargo long ago. Your car, if relatively newer, is 100% run off of computer that interacts with road information and GPS. It knows the speed limit. If safety were the concern, they could literally make it impossible for you to speed. Why then don?t they do this? MONEY. They make too much money off of writing tickets for speeding. This was a terrible example and your trust in government shows that you are most likely what is referred to as a useful idiot. You and Q should probably look the term up.

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Originally Posted by Percho

Ordered per your recommendation.

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Let me know how you like it. Erik Larson is considered one of the best authors of historic events.
If you enjoy nonfiction centered around past events, the absolute best I have ever read regarding the Kennedy assassination, as well as the brutal and deadly lengths our government will go to in order to keep its secrets, is .... The Inheritance: Poisoned Fruit of JFKs Assassination, by Christopher Fulton. It is every bit as riveting as Dead Wake.

Pfizer expects vaccine for kids under 5 in first half of 2022

https://pix11.com/news/coronavirus/p...nltK1FMuGMQE-M

In case you didn’t know this

https://stream.org/to-save-ourselves...ildren-part-i/

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Originally Posted by Schultzy

In case you didn’t know this

https://stream.org/to-save-ourselves...ildren-part-i/

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This is likely one reason why they?re wanting to wait 75 years before documents are released. We?re dealing with some very evil & sick people walking among us. And then we also have to deal with the useful brainwashed idiots.

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Or the shots(not vaccines) just don?t work as intended?

I can?t disagree with the thought of NFL/Other pro sports players lying about it though. I?ve thought about this same scenario bc it?s really odd that international sports teams are having tons of players with newfound heart troubles & America hasn?t seen much of that, yet. It does make one wonder.

Every single person that I know that?s tested positive for the new flu lately has been vaccinated. I agree that the tests are sh*t, but it?s still odd that everyone I know testing positive is ?vaccinated?

My mother has also developed heart troubles after being vaccinated. Never had the first sign of heart troubles prior. My 90ish year old grandmother has tested positive twice since being vaccinated, basically only had headaches. She also got very sick a third time & tested negative. Weird huh? My aunt has had this flu twice since being vaccinated & her husband recently died of a heart attack after being vaccinated(to be fair? he did have prior heart troubles)

These are the only 4 family members that I KNOW for sure are vaccinated & they are the reason no one else in our family will ever consider being vaccinated.

I?m sure many people have had different experiences with this entire ordeal & maybe it has helped some people & that?s ok, it?s why people need to make health decisions based on their personal experiences & personal choices.

It?s also why I will never trust anyone that tries to force something medical(especially a shot they pretend is a vaccine & had to change the definition in order for it to fall under said category) on me because everyone has different experiences & different reactions.

That said, ..Covid..has had zero affect on me or anyone in my family, as far as being bad sick, hospitalized, death, etc? none.

My wife ..tested.. positive while pregnant & she till this day says the test was FOS bc it was the same minor sinus troubles she gets every year(her job forced her to get tested)? while the vaccine has directly affected my family & that?s with very little of my family even taking it. 3 of the 4 regret getting it & 1 didn?t live to tell us wether he regrets it or not.

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Good post. always preferring to get well on my own, I finally went to a doctor after sever weeks of exhaustion and dizziness. Couldn't stay on my feet most times without laying down to avoid feeling faint. Tested positive and got medicine and was good to go 4 days later. Never a vax and ain't getting one.

I just can't think of a good reason for wanting 75 years to release information on approving vaccine. I've always thought this virus escaped from a lab, so perhaps part of the vaccine research shows we were studying this virus before it became a pandemic. This could also explain how quickly we came up with a vaccine

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Originally Posted by 662dawg

Or the shots(not vaccines) just don?t work as intended?

I can?t disagree with the thought of NFL/Other pro sports players lying about it though. I?ve thought about this same scenario bc it?s really odd that international sports teams are having tons of players with newfound heart troubles & America hasn?t seen much of that, yet. It does make one wonder.

Every single person that I know that?s tested positive for the new flu lately has been vaccinated. I agree that the tests are sh*t, but it?s still odd that everyone I know testing positive is ?vaccinated?

My mother has also developed heart troubles after being vaccinated. Never had the first sign of heart troubles prior. My 90ish year old grandmother has tested positive twice since being vaccinated, basically only had headaches. She also got very sick a third time & tested negative. Weird huh? My aunt has had this flu twice since being vaccinated & her husband recently died of a heart attack after being vaccinated(to be fair? he did have prior heart troubles)

These are the only 4 family members that I KNOW for sure are vaccinated & they are the reason no one else in our family will ever consider being vaccinated.

I?m sure many people have had different experiences with this entire ordeal & maybe it has helped some people & that?s ok, it?s why people need to make health decisions based on their personal experiences & personal choices.

It?s also why I will never trust anyone that tries to force something medical(especially a shot they pretend is a vaccine & had to change the definition in order for it to fall under said category) on me because everyone has different experiences & different reactions.

That said, ..Covid..has had zero affect on me or anyone in my family, as far as being bad sick, hospitalized, death, etc? none.

My wife ..tested.. positive while pregnant & she till this day says the test was FOS bc it was the same minor sinus troubles she gets every year(her job forced her to get tested)? while the vaccine has directly affected my family & that?s with very little of my family even taking it. 3 of the 4 regret getting it & 1 didn?t live to tell us wether he regrets it or not.

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It's not that the new tests (for Covid) are shit, it's that ALL medical tests have their limitations and people are just now paying attention. IDIOTS, and that's what they are, are just beginning to learn about basic limitations of data and are acting like sages. And for the record, this plays against both sides. The pro Vax crowd also doesn't understand the limitations of the data and are acting way holier than thou than is warranted.

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Originally Posted by Quaoarsking

That's just not true. Breakthrough infections are possible (as with any vaccine), but it absolutely makes you less likely to get it.

https://i.imgur.com/ZSKOcYF.png
Source: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...vaccine-status

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None of the US data is worth paper it is on. Europe is at worse rates ever and 90% of them are vaccinated. A vaccine is supposed to prevent infection and disease per the CDC. The actual form when you get the shot says "this is not a vaccine".

Why are so many so ignorant to the truth? I guess many still trust the gov.

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

The actual form when you get the shot says "this is not a vaccine".

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I think you've gotten tricked by Fake News.

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Originally Posted by Dak Holliday

😂 Speed limits have never been about safety. They were implemented at the speed rate at which your car is most fuel efficient due mainly to a fuel embargo long ago. Your car, if relatively newer, is 100% run off of computer that interacts with road information and GPS. It knows the speed limit. If safety were the concern, they could literally make it impossible for you to speed. Why then don?t they do this? MONEY. They make too much money off of writing tickets for speeding. This was a terrible example and your trust in government shows that you are most likely what is referred to as a useful idiot. You and Q should probably look the term up.

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I'm well aware of what the public justification was 50 years ago for the implementation of speed limits, bro. But that's not why we have them today. Hell, there was a major relaxation 30 years ago. Catch up.

The POINT was we could eliminate speed limits if we weren't concerned with the safety of those affected. That YOUR confidence that you are are a special snowflake that can safely speed does not mean much to the family you end up killing out of your ignorant arrogance. Did you know that 99% of ALL drivers think they are an above average driver? Guess what, for the safety of ALL of us we cannot rely on your individual assessment.

Some of you guys need to save yourself the energy of arguing. If by now someone doesn't question the agenda behind the vaccine along with not understanding that the vaccine does not slow the spread or effect your ability to spread the virus, that person cannot be helped. They are the sheep and you are wasting your time and energy arguing with them.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Some of you guys need to save yourself the energy of arguing. If by now someone doesn't question the agenda behind the vaccine along with not understanding that the vaccine does not slow the spread or effect your ability to spread the virus, that person cannot be helped. They are the sheep and you are wasting your time and energy arguing with them.

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Well said, sir. It?s kind of mind blowing that people are still trusting anything the government is telling us at this point.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Some of you guys need to save yourself the energy of arguing. If by now someone doesn't question the agenda behind the vaccine along with not understanding that the vaccine does not slow the spread or effect your ability to spread the virus, that person cannot be helped. They are the sheep and you are wasting your time and energy arguing with them.

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This post may be the peak of irony on this whole board.

As I said earlier, if the vaccine doesn't work, it's the most magical placebo in human history, something totally without precedent or explanation.

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Some of you guys need to save yourself the energy of arguing. If by now someone doesn't question the agenda behind the vaccine along with not understanding that the vaccine does not slow the spread or effect your ability to spread the virus, that person cannot be helped. They are the sheep and you are wasting your time and energy arguing with them.

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More like, if you can't accept that the vaccine DOES slow the spread and affect transmissibity, then you are an idiot beyond conversing with.

Newsflash, just because the provax crowd isn't 100^% right doesn't mean they are 100% wrong. Do yourself a favor and STFU until you understand the difference.