Dan Mullen- in 8 seasons

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11-14-2016, 08:29 PM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by smootness

What you do you think we're paying for? Or, better put, how much do you think we're paying relative to everyone else?

We're paying for a guy who is looking for a way out. Ask Jimmy Sexton.
11-14-2016, 08:30 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

He had 1 good win in 2015. Your'e right about 14 but he also quit on us that year after the loss to Bama

We won 9 games in 15, 10 in 14. so either, he's a good recruiter, which I'm pretty sure the majority would disagree with or we didn't underachieve. The underachieving part is just not accurate. Not at a school that can count on their hands the number of 9 win seasons we have. And the quitting during the 14 season is stupid ass internet fodder. And if you and anyone else believes that I have land for sale, and trust me I know you aren't alone. But it's just crazy talk.
11-14-2016, 08:31 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Hes been better than Sylvester Croom was. What a historical achievement. Hes also making a shit ton more money than Croom did

He isn't better than 2001-2003 Jackie Sherrill? Croom lost to Maine and we didn't fire him. He even said he wasn't surprised we lost to Maine and we didn't fire him. Mullen had us #1 in the Country for 6 straight weeks and finished the season ranked #7. He just beat the #4 team in the country 9 days ago and you want to fire him. Croom lost a football game 3-2.
11-14-2016, 08:38 PM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

He isn't better than 2001-2003 Jackie Sherrill? Croom lost to Maine and we didn't fire him. He even said he wasn't surprised we lost to Maine and we didn't fire him. Mullen had us #1 in the Country for 6 straight weeks and finished the season ranked #7. He just beat the #4 team in the country 9 days ago and you want to fire him. Croom lost a football game 3-2.

I was including Sherrill. I should have put that in the post. Yes he was better than Jackie at the end of his career. Croom lost to maine in his first year when we were probably the worst team in D1 football. Mullen is far and away better than Croom. Is that what you want me to say? A&M has proven it didnt deserve to be #4. It was a good and much needed win. He has these last 2 games to salvage the season. We will see what happens
11-14-2016, 08:44 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

I was including Sherrill. I should have put that in the post. Yes he was better than Jackie at the end of his career. Croom lost to maine in his first year when we were probably the worst team in D1 football. Mullen is far and away better than Croom. Is that what you want me to say? A&M has proven it didnt deserve to be #4. It was a good and much needed win. He has these last 2 games to salvage the season. We will see what happens

Nobody is happy about this season but look at what Dak Prescott is doing with the Cowboys this year. He is the leading MVP candidate in the ****ing NFL in his rookie season. Dan Mullen molded Dak Prescott. Nick Fitz has already set records that even Dak never reached. We have an even better one coming next year. Think about that for a bit.
11-14-2016, 08:46 PM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

Nobody is happy about this season but look at what Dak Prescott is doing with the Cowboys this year. He is the leading MVP candidate in the ****ing NFL in his rookie season. Dan Mullen molded Dak Prescott. Nick Fitz has already set records that even Dak never reached. We have an even better one coming next year. Think about that for a bit.

Ok. We will see what happens. Im behind him for the last 2 like all of us should be
11-14-2016, 08:52 PM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by GTHOM

Ok. We will see what happens. Im behind him for the last 2 like all of us should be

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GTHOM again.
11-15-2016, 12:20 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to GTHOM again.

As far as physical skills and abilities are concerned, Thompson could be the next Cam Newton. We want that kid to get here and if keeping Mullen means we are assured of keeping him so be it. He is an early enrollee as well. I think he starts as a true freshman.
11-15-2016, 12:37 AM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

We won 9 games in 15, 10 in 14. so either, he's a good recruiter, which I'm pretty sure the majority would disagree with or we didn't underachieve. The underachieving part is just not accurate. Not at a school that can count on their hands the number of 9 win seasons we have. And the quitting during the 14 season is stupid ass internet fodder. And if you and anyone else believes that I have land for sale, and trust me I know you aren't alone. But it's just crazy talk.

This^^^^^agree completely! I've never understood this argument either. People say he doesn't recruit well and then say he underachieves. That's an oxymoron if ever there was one. It can't be both.
11-15-2016, 12:46 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

As far as physical skills and abilities are concerned, Thompson could be the next Cam Newton. We want that kid to get here and if keeping Mullen means we are assured of keeping him so be it. He is an early enrollee as well. I think he starts as a true freshman.

I'd be surprised because Nick has been pretty good. It would have to be a situation like Ole Miss where Fitzgerald gets hurt. I do think he eventually beats out Tiano though.
11-15-2016, 12:53 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

99% of the time you can't fix the kicker problem by bringing in the backup kicker. Maybe we are that 1% but it's more likely Graves finds 2015 Graves than the backup kicker is better than him. That's why you keep trotting him out. Again, if next year we suck at kicker then it is on Mullen. This year it's not.

And what are you basing this on? Trotting Graves out there over and over again could also continue to kill his confidence beyond repair as well. It's no different than any other position- if the guy isn't performing you try someone else. It's Dan's job to develop players and if they aren't improving or in this case significantly regressing, that absolutely is on him at the end of the day. And Dan would probably even tell you that himself.

We need someone that can knock it through the uprights or adjust our expectations of what Graves range is and go for it more on fourth down. We possibly started doing that against Alabama because we went for it on several fourth downs.
11-15-2016, 12:56 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I'd be surprised because Nick has been pretty good. It would have to be a situation like Ole Miss where Fitzgerald gets hurt. I do think he eventually beats out Tiano though.

I think he will beat out Nick A) because he is a leader and has "It", B) he has better physical gifts both running and throwing the ball, and C) he already has a great understanding of the spread offense since that is what he runs in high school. His stats this year are below and he basically is their team meaning Landry-Walker isn't a power house school in Louisiana. He has accounted for 40 TDs both in the air and on the ground not including playoff numbers.

On the season, Thompson has passed for 2,690 yards with 32 touchdowns and five interceptions. He has now eclipsed the 1,000-yard rushing mark, as well, with 1,040 yards on the ground and 18 touchdowns.
11-15-2016, 01:07 AM
Todd4State

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

I think he will beat out Nick A) because he is a leader and has "It", B) he has better physical gifts both running and throwing the ball, and C) he already has a great understanding of the spread offense since that is what he runs in high school. His stats this year are below and he basically is their team meaning Landry-Walker isn't a power house school in Louisiana. He has accounted for 40 TDs both in the air and on the ground not including playoff numbers.

On the season, Thompson has passed for 2,690 yards with 32 touchdowns and five interceptions. He has now eclipsed the 1,000-yard rushing mark, as well, with 1,040 yards on the ground and 18 touchdowns.

Landry Walker is a powerhouse as far as inner city school teams go in NOLA and they have at least three legit D-I prospects including two juniors who are four star guys that were committed to LSU. They're like a JPS school with high level with advanced high school coaches.

Nick doesn't have "it" like Dak but I think he is more than adequately leading the team. He has more of a John Bond/Joe Namath personality and I think our fans blow his off the fields exploits and how they affect the team way out of proportion. His stats are very similar to Dak's at this point.

Now, I do think that Keytaeon is going to be very good and I think he has the IT factor as well, but I also don't see any reason to rush him as long as Nick is playing well and is healthy.

I think the biggest thing that affected our team this year to be honest with everyone was how we used the running backs earlier in the season. When we started giving the majority of the carries to Aeris things started to turn around for the offense in a very positive way.
11-15-2016, 01:28 AM
GTHOM

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Landry Walker is a powerhouse as far as inner city school teams go in NOLA and they have at least three legit D-I prospects including two juniors who are four star guys that were committed to LSU. They're like a JPS school with high level with advanced high school coaches.

Nick doesn't have "it" like Dak but I think he is more than adequately leading the team. He has more of a John Bond/Joe Namath personality and I think our fans blow his off the fields exploits and how they affect the team way out of proportion. His stats are very similar to Dak's at this point.

Now, I do think that Keytaeon is going to be very good and I think he has the IT factor as well, but I also don't see any reason to rush him as long as Nick is playing well and is healthy.

I think the biggest thing that affected our team this year to be honest with everyone was how we used the running backs earlier in the season. When we started giving the majority of the carries to Aeris things started to turn around for the offense in a very positive way.

Exactly. Our O line is not great but Holloway made them look worse. Aeris had 11 carries for 56 yards vs Alabama. Why he wasnt getting the workload hes getting now is what pisses me off with Mullen. I love Holloway to death hes a good player and has a role but Mullen was ignorant for running him on inside zone.

Fitz is the guy unless Thompson has Dak like intangibles. And I hope he is but Fitz is a warrior and has won the team. If Thompson has better physical talents than Fitz I've gotta see him cause Fitz is vastly more talented than Dak ever was
11-15-2016, 02:22 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Landry Walker is a powerhouse as far as inner city school teams go in NOLA and they have at least three legit D-I prospects including two juniors who are four star guys that were committed to LSU. They're like a JPS school with high level with advanced high school coaches.

Nick doesn't have "it" like Dak but I think he is more than adequately leading the team. He has more of a John Bond/Joe Namath personality and I think our fans blow his off the fields exploits and how they affect the team way out of proportion. His stats are very similar to Dak's at this point.

Now, I do think that Keytaeon is going to be very good and I think he has the IT factor as well, but I also don't see any reason to rush him as long as Nick is playing well and is healthy.

I think the biggest thing that affected our team this year to be honest with everyone was how we used the running backs earlier in the season. When we started giving the majority of the carries to Aeris things started to turn around for the offense in a very positive way.

Disagree with you on Landry-Walker being a power house before Thompson got there. I guess you know Louisiana high school football more then Mike Detillier who is an expert and lives in Louisiana who stated that they didn't win before Thompson got there and will probably go back to not winning once he is gone. I still think Thompson wins the job so let's just agree to disagree on that point.
11-15-2016, 06:58 AM
lamont

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

I think he will beat out Nick A) because he is a leader and has "It", B) he has better physical gifts both running and throwing the ball, and C) he already has a great understanding of the spread offense since that is what he runs in high school. His stats this year are below and he basically is their team meaning Landry-Walker isn't a power house school in Louisiana. He has accounted for 40 TDs both in the air and on the ground not including playoff numbers.

On the season, Thompson has passed for 2,690 yards with 32 touchdowns and five interceptions. He has now eclipsed the 1,000-yard rushing mark, as well, with 1,040 yards on the ground and 18 touchdowns.

Thompson is not beating out Fitz for 2017 season
11-15-2016, 08:03 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Dawg61

He isn't better than 2001-2003 Jackie Sherrill? Croom lost to Maine and we didn't fire him. He even said he wasn't surprised we lost to Maine and we didn't fire him. Mullen had us #1 in the Country for 6 straight weeks and finished the season ranked #7. He just beat the #4 team in the country 9 days ago and you want to fire him. Croom lost a football game 3-2.

5 straight weeks and #11 in final CFB rankings. A&M wasn't close to #4 team in country. May be close to top 10 tho but to lose to us then OM, makes me scratch my head. OM isn't a good team ... period. Doesn't really matter tho. I'm for keeping Mullen and seeing what happens next year. Fitz is coming along and there are occasional flashes that maybe things could potentially turn around. We'll see how the last 2 games go, both of which I believe are winnable.

At the moment I would say Dan isn't much better than 2001-2003 Jackie Sherrill. When you become complacent things can go south pretty quickly.
11-15-2016, 09:00 AM
MarketingBully

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Originally Posted by Random Poster

Thompson is not beating out Fitz for 2017 season

I'd agree with you if Thompson wasn't an Early Enrollee. But he is and I think that extra time gives him what he needs to beat Fitz out for the job. If Fitz can win out and we go to a bowl game and win that as well to finish 7-6, I think that is the only way that Fitz gets a huge advantage going into 2017. It's taken Fitz practically the whole year just to get as far as he has which I think Thompson already is better then. Thompson is the highest ranked dual threat QB Mullen has been able to land at MSU and has the highest floor and ceiling of any QB Mullen has landed here as well.
11-15-2016, 09:19 AM
lamont

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

I'd agree with you if Thompson wasn't an Early Enrollee. But he is and I think that extra time gives him what he needs to beat Fitz out for the job. If Fitz can win out and we go to a bowl game and win that as well to finish 7-6, I think that is the only way that Fitz gets a huge advantage going into 2017. It's taken Fitz practically the whole year just to get as far as he has which I think Thompson already is better then. Thompson is the highest ranked dual threat QB Mullen has been able to land at MSU and has the highest floor and ceiling of any QB Mullen has landed here as well.

Thompson is another Prescott as far as skill set. Even Dakota needed to RS. Fitz will be the QB in 2017. He is an outstanding runner and getting better in the passing game. Thompson will be good- but in all likelihood he sits the next 2 seasons behind Fitz
11-15-2016, 09:19 AM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by MarketingBully

I'd agree with you if Thompson wasn't an Early Enrollee. But he is and I think that extra time gives him what he needs to beat Fitz out for the job. If Fitz can win out and we go to a bowl game and win that as well to finish 7-6, I think that is the only way that Fitz gets a huge advantage going into 2017. It's taken Fitz practically the whole year just to get as far as he has which I think Thompson already is better then. Thompson is the highest ranked dual threat QB Mullen has been able to land at MSU and has the highest floor and ceiling of any QB Mullen has landed here as well.

Haven't watched nor do I know that much about Thompson yet. However, while Fitz has had his good and bad moments, he is BY FAR not the biggest problem with this year's team. Fitz has progressed and has very good potential. It remains to be seen if the main problems with this team are much less glaring during the final 2 games.

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