Dan Mullen- in 8 seasons

[GTHOM]

Right but most if not all of this happened during 2015-early2016. It's now in the past. How long are we supposed to keep punishing Dan for past mistakes? Let it go. We aren't even ten days from him bringing MSU one of the biggest upsets our University has won in the last 30 years and you've already forgotten all about that. Why is it so easy for you to forget all the good yet so difficult to move on from the bad?

Jesus. Mullen has had 1 year here that I feel like he overachieved. 2010 he made us better than what we were offensively. He gets a pass for 2009. Name me another year. 2011 we underachieved. Our offense went backwards. 2012? No we sucked. Beat no one with a pulse and got murdered by Northwestern. Dak rode the bench while Stone feet started at QB. J Rob rode the pine so Ladarius Perkins could run up the middle for a foot and fall down. Sound familiar??? 2013? Nope. Give him credit for the last 3 games other than that we sucked. That team underachieved. 2014? Mullen quit on one the best players in SEC history after he panicked early vs Bama. 2015? Mullen was planning on leaving with Dak. He has 1 good win this year and 3 incredibly bad losses. He has these last 2 games to make up for them to get us to 6-6 and keep the bowl streak alive. We'll see what happens

[GTHOM]

If my aunt had balls- she'd be my uncle. It shouldnt have come down to one kick. South Alabama missed FG's also- we arent the only team that made some mistakes

Exactly.

[Todd4State]

If anyone has to go or be moved it's our damn secondary coaches. Our secondary has been the WORST part of our team for 4-5 years in a row. Worse than our OL for almost a half decade straight.

Would normal agree. However continuity on defense has been an issue so I think it might be better to keep that side of the ball intact of possible. For now.

Defense gets a pass from me for this year. They're on the clock starting in September.

[TUSK]

Here's hurts' td run vs lsu. Do all those blocks look clean?

nope, looks a lot like "block in the back" and a couple "holds" in there, too...

[Todd4State]

What were Graves stats last year? Sometimes good players suddenly suck and at that position you can't really fix it till the next year. If our kicker sucks next year I will say it's Mullen's fault. Can't really blame him for Graves this year though. That shit is just on Graves.

It is on Graves but Dan keeps trotting his 13th ranked kicker in the SEC out there time and time again. That's on Dan. I'm not blaming Dan for letting him kick against South Alabama. I'm blaming Dan for letting him kick against Alabama. And Kentucky for that matter.

[smootness]

Jesus. Mullen has had 1 year here that I feel like he overachieved. 2010 he made us better than what we were offensively. He gets a pass for 2009. Name me another year. 2011 we underachieved. Our offense went backwards. 2012? No we sucked. Beat no one with a pulse and got murdered by Northwestern. Dak rode the bench while Stone feet started at QB. J Rob rode the pine so Ladarius Perkins could run up the middle for a foot and fall down. Sound familiar??? 2013? Nope. Give him credit for the last 3 games other than that we sucked. That team underachieved. 2014? Mullen quit on one the best players in SEC history after he panicked early vs Bama. 2015? Mullen was planning on leaving with Dak. He has 1 good win this year and 3 incredibly bad losses. He has these last 2 games to make up for them to get us to 6-6 and keep the bowl streak alive. We'll see what happens

Good to know the most successful coach in our history has been underachieving the whole time. Can't wait until this sleeping giant finally just meets expectations and wins championships for days.

[Todd4State]

Good to know the most successful coach in our history has been underachieving the whole time. Can't wait until this sleeping giant finally just meets expectations and wins championships for days.

I can't wait either. We have more potential than a lot of our fans realize. And no I'm not saying that Dan is bad. I'm saying he doesn't maximize our talent and resources.

[GTHOM]

Good to know the most successful coach in our history has been underachieving the whole time. Can't wait until this sleeping giant finally just meets expectations and wins championships for days.

All Im saying is we are not getting what we are paying for. I dont hate Mullen, I think he can do it here. But pandering for other jobs and making the same stupid mistakes year after year was getting old. Then we lost to South Alabama and his mistakes and lack of commitment to recruiting have bit him and most importantly US in the ass

[Dawg61]

Gets a pass for 2009? Look at our 2008 year. http://www.espn.com/college-football.../344/year/2008

You've already lost all credit though after posting that a defensive coordinator moving from MSU to Texas and to Florida are lateral moves.

[GTHOM]

Gets a pass for 2009? Look at our 2008 year. http://www.espn.com/college-football.../344/year/2008

You've already lost all credit though after posting that a defensive coordinator moving from MSU to Texas and to Florida are lateral moves.

Im sorry I lost credibility in your extremely important opinion. Going from one DC job to another isnt a huge step up. Then again you probably would wipe Mullen's ass if he asked you too. He won with Crooms recruits in 09 and 10 btw. Just proves my point even further. But carry on

[Coursesuper]

If my aunt had balls- she'd be my uncle. It shouldnt have come down to one kick. South Alabama missed FG's also- we arent the only team that made some mistakes

Absolutely correct.

[bluelightstar]

This isn't surprising. We've scored like 6 touchdowns in 8 years against Alabama. I feel pretty confident (without looking it up) that we have the worst 8-year showing against 2009-2016 Alabama of any team in the SEC West.

[Dawg61]

It is on Graves but Dan keeps trotting his 13th ranked kicker in the SEC out there time and time again. That's on Dan. I'm not blaming Dan for letting him kick against South Alabama. I'm blaming Dan for letting him kick against Alabama. And Kentucky for that matter.

99% of the time you can't fix the kicker problem by bringing in the backup kicker. Maybe we are that 1% but it's more likely Graves finds 2015 Graves than the backup kicker is better than him. That's why you keep trotting him out. Again, if next year we suck at kicker then it is on Mullen. This year it's not.

[Dawg61]

Im sorry I lost credibility in your extremely important opinion. Going from one DC job to another isnt a huge step up. Then again you probably would wipe Mullen's ass if he asked you too. He won with Crooms recruits in 09 and 10 btw. Just proves my point even further. But carry on

I wouldn't wipe Mullen's ass I just won't continue to allow the Butthurt clan to shit all over him every single day. You'll know when I want a coach gone. That time hasn't arrived with Mullen. What was our football program like from 2001-2008? That's the previous eight seasons before Mullen's eight seasons. How about you do a compare and contrast for us on those eight seasons to Mullen's eight seasons. Only this time don't be so ridiculously biased like when you said MSU to Florida is a lateral move.

[Homedawg]

Jesus. Mullen has had 1 year here that I feel like he overachieved. 2010 he made us better than what we were offensively. He gets a pass for 2009. Name me another year. 2011 we underachieved. Our offense went backwards. 2012? No we sucked. Beat no one with a pulse and got murdered by Northwestern. Dak rode the bench while Stone feet started at QB. J Rob rode the pine so Ladarius Perkins could run up the middle for a foot and fall down. Sound familiar??? 2013? Nope. Give him credit for the last 3 games other than that we sucked. That team underachieved. 2014? Mullen quit on one the best players in SEC history after he panicked early vs Bama. 2015? Mullen was planning on leaving with Dak. He has 1 good win this year and 3 incredibly bad losses. He has these last 2 games to make up for them to get us to 6-6 and keep the bowl streak alive. We'll see what happens

Like Mullen and want him to stay, hate Mullen and want him fired and that's fine either way. However, this post is full of stupid.

[Homedawg]

Im sorry I lost credibility in your extremely important opinion. Going from one DC job to another isnt a huge step up. Then again you probably would wipe Mullen's ass if he asked you too. He won with Crooms recruits in 09 and 10 btw. Just proves my point even further. But carry on

So who's recruits did he win with in 14-15 that we "underachieved" with? Damn man. Make a case our recruiting isn't what it should be, but if that's the case you can't say we underachieved. you should say we didn't recruit well enough. Can't have it both ways all the time.

[GTHOM]

Like Mullen and want him to stay, hate Mullen and want him fired and that's fine either way. However, this post is full of stupid.

What part of that post was untrue?

[GTHOM]

So who's recruits did he win with in 14-15 that we "underachieved" with? Damn man. Make a case our recruiting isn't what it should be, but if that's the case you can't say we underachieved. you should say we didn't recruit well enough. Can't have it both ways all the time.

He had 1 good win in 2015. Your'e right about 14 but he also quit on us that year after the loss to Bama

[GTHOM]

I wouldn't wipe Mullen's ass I just won't continue to allow the Butthurt clan to shit all over him every single day. You'll know when I want a coach gone. That time hasn't arrived with Mullen. What was our football program like from 2001-2008? That's the previous eight seasons before Mullen's eight seasons. How about you do a compare and contrast for us on those eight seasons to Mullen's eight seasons. Only this time don't be so ridiculously biased like when you said MSU to Florida is a lateral move.

Hes been better than Sylvester Croom was. What a historical achievement. Hes also making a shit ton more money than Croom did

[smootness]

All Im saying is we are not getting what we are paying for. I dont hate Mullen, I think he can do it here. But pandering for other jobs and making the same stupid mistakes year after year was getting old. Then we lost to South Alabama and his mistakes and lack of commitment to recruiting have bit him and most importantly US in the ass

What you do you think we're paying for? Or, better put, how much do you think we're paying relative to everyone else?