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11-21-2023, 04:01 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

He would be a safe hire. We could do worse. If he brings in his OC from UNLV that's a big plus. I think some folks might start realizing Sam Pittman's success at Arkansas was predicated on using Odom's knowledge as a former head coach. There has been a significant drop off in coaching since Odom and Briles left.

That's more losing Briles. It's why they fired their OC
11-21-2023, 04:19 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

That's more losing Briles. It's why they fired their OC

He was the DC that absolutely shut Leach down the week after we put up 600,000 yards of offense against LSU. Just sayin
11-21-2023, 04:29 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

He was the DC that absolutely shut Leach down the week after we put up 600,000 yards of offense against LSU. Just sayin

Which was really impressive until teams realized all he did was just drop 8. That was probably the easiest scheme job he ever had at Arkansas. Making Corral throw 7 INTs the next week was really impressive though.
11-21-2023, 04:35 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

He would be a safe hire. We could do worse. If he brings in his OC from UNLV that's a big plus. I think some folks might start realizing Sam Pittman's success at Arkansas was predicated on using Odom's knowledge as a former head coach. There has been a significant drop off in coaching since Odom and Briles left.

Ark defense is better this year without Odom.
I know that's a talent issue too.
11-21-2023, 04:36 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Name the source or get off my lawn.

Klieman's agent informed us he is not interested. Same for Michigan State as well.
11-21-2023, 04:36 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

He was the DC that absolutely shut Leach down the week after we put up 600,000 yards of offense against LSU. Just sayin

Then the AR torched him the next two seasons.
11-21-2023, 04:37 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

First I've heard of this. Where are you hearing that?

There's no smoke on Kelly
11-21-2023, 04:40 PM
Really Clark?

As been stated for a while now, Odom has been doing everything he can to get our job. He is not the top candidate but he very much wants our job and Selmon is doing his due diligence on every candidate.
11-21-2023, 04:48 PM
C&DDAWG32

I'm not saying in any way that he's ready or that we should look at him but I do think Collin Klein is an up and comer. He's learning from a great coach. He could be someone to watch in the future.
11-21-2023, 04:51 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Klieman's agent informed us he is not interested. Same for Michigan State as well.

That's called negotiation.
11-21-2023, 04:52 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

Which was really impressive until teams realized all he did was just drop 8. That was probably the easiest scheme job he ever had at Arkansas. Making Corral throw 7 INTs the next week was really impressive though.

Costello threw 5 and 3 times we turned it over inside the 10. Gave up about 500 yards, Costello just sucked
11-21-2023, 04:52 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

As been stated for a while now, Odom has been doing everything he can to get our job. He is not the top candidate but he very much wants our job and Selmon is doing his due diligence on every candidate.

Who is the top candidate
11-21-2023, 04:56 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

As been stated for a while now, Odom has been doing everything he can to get our job. He is not the top candidate but he very much wants our job and Selmon is doing his due diligence on every candidate.

So if we bomb with the top four or five candidates Odom is the guy?
11-21-2023, 04:57 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

That's called negotiation.

Not when we are not going to pay over $8 MIL on a coach. We can't match what's left on his contract. But more importantly, he is 100% not interested in coming here.
11-21-2023, 05:11 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Who is the top candidate

I know we have backing from boosters to get Chadwell and pay that buyout and Selmon has him high on the list. Until he completely decides he is not interested, that is who I would say is the top one or two candidate.
11-21-2023, 05:15 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

So if we bomb with the top four or five candidates Odom is the guy?

I don't know how Selmon has them ranked. That would be a good guess. I don't think the list and order of who we wants / we can get is complete until everything opens up after this weekend. Unless he gets a commitment from his top guy prior, that order will shift as guys pick up interest / decline interest.
11-21-2023, 05:38 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Not when we are not going to pay over $8 MIL on a coach. We can't match what's left on his contract. But more importantly, he is 100% not interested in coming here.

He's making $6 million a year. Let's get in the adult pool or find another conference to play in.
11-21-2023, 05:42 PM
Coach34

Klieman isnt coming here...some of you live in an alternate reality
11-21-2023, 05:43 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

That's called negotiation.

No, that's being told I'm not interested. Not complicated
11-21-2023, 05:45 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

Costello threw 5 and 3 times we turned it over inside the 10. Gave up about 500 yards, Costello just sucked

We had 400 yards on the nose. But we did throw it to the wrong color several times.
11-21-2023, 05:46 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Klieman isnt coming here...some of you live in an alternate reality

Yeah. Cuz we po ole Mississippi State. Change the rhetoric Coach. Act like we belong and not try to achieve success with lesser options. Leaders make great things happen.
11-21-2023, 05:47 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

No, that's being told I'm not interested. Not complicated

Yeah. I hired more than a few the candidate gave me that opening line. You MAKE IT HAPPEN.
11-21-2023, 05:48 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Yeah. Cuz we po ole Mississippi State. Change the rhetoric Coach. Act like we belong and not try to achieve success with lesser options. Leaders make great things happen.

He's at an easier place to win. Why would he make a lateral move for a harder job? We absolutely shoulda fired Moorhead and arnett, but we've got a quick trigger reputation now that probably isn't appealing to guys with stability
11-21-2023, 05:49 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

He's making $6 million a year. Let's get in the adult pool or find another conference to play in.

He's owed over $40 MIL on his contract, with triggers automatic extensions that he just hit it will get to over $46 MIL. We can't come close to matching that on a 4 year deal. The best we could do is $8 MIL per year with 2 years written in extensions to carry it out to 6 years. That just barely gets over what his current contract totals. You can keep banging your head against the wall but we are not going to pay $9-10 MIL as a starting salary. We can pay up to $8 MIL for the right coach. But again, and the final time, he is not interested in coaching here so all of this in the end is moot.
11-21-2023, 05:50 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

No, that's being told I'm not interested. Not complicated

This^^^^!!!!!
11-21-2023, 05:56 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

He's owed over $40 MIL on his contract, with triggers automatic extensions that he just hit it will get to over $46 MIL. We can't come close to matching that on a 4 year deal. The best we could do is $8 MIL per year with 2 years written in extensions to carry it out to 6 years. That just barely gets over what his current contract totals. You can keep banging your head against the wall but we are not going to pay $9-10 MIL as a starting salary. We can pay up to $8 MIL for the right coach. But again, and the final time, he is not interested in coaching here so all of this in the end is moot.

This is like NFL QB salaries the last five years. If schools want their coach of choice, you're going to spend the money or get left behind. Why is everyone OK to spout this 'gotta spend more money' message with NIL but not for the best coaching option. Spend what it takes to pull the best coaching option. It's no different.
11-21-2023, 06:04 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

He was the DC that absolutely shut Leach down the week after we put up 600,000 yards of offense against LSU. Just sayin

Yeah. The first time anyone on the entire team tried to run air-raid against a zone with zero practice. Peter Sirmon would have shut them down running a drop 8 zone.
11-21-2023, 06:12 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

This is like NFL QB salaries the last five years. If schools want their coach of choice, you're going to spend the money or get left behind. Why is everyone OK to spout this 'gotta spend more money' message with NIL but not for the best coaching option. Spend what it takes to pull the best coaching option. It's no different.

No matter how much some of us want to be- we wont ever be upper-tier SEC.
11-21-2023, 06:15 PM
MetEdDawg

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Yeah. Cuz we po ole Mississippi State. Change the rhetoric Coach. Act like we belong and not try to achieve success with lesser options. Leaders make great things happen.

This is an interesting take. It completely refutes the fact that people can evaluate situations and come to the conclusion that where they are is better than some other place and that no amount of money could change that.

It's a bold thought process though. I know I personally have not gone after jobs that would offer me substantial pay raises because the situation I was in was determined by me to be better than what I would be going into.

But maybe I'm the only one that's done that.
11-21-2023, 06:19 PM
Cooterpoot

The fact we're refusing to even consider coordinators pissses me off. Our best coach came here as a coordinator. This idea we should accept a bad hire simply because we're only looking at head coaches is dumb as hell. Go talk to coordinators and see what their plan is. Selling a high ceiling is better than accepting mediocrity.
11-21-2023, 06:24 PM
EdwardDrayton

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Originally Posted by Coach34

No matter how much some of us want to be- we wont ever be upper-tier SEC.

Yeah. This is the crux of it Coach. But it's going to be to an even greater extent. Soon we will no longer be an SEC program. We simply will be relegated to another group that makes more sense for us. It's coming.
11-21-2023, 06:28 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton

Yeah. This is the crux of it Coach. But it's going to be to an even greater extent. Soon we will no longer be an SEC program. We simply will be relegated to another group that makes more sense for us. It's coming.

But here’s the thing- with all the realignment still to come- it’s not going to matter who we hire.

https://twitter.com/gswaim/status/17...YKXqKt8QQD9Mtw
11-21-2023, 06:33 PM
Ezsoil

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

So if we bomb with the top four or five candidates Odom is the guy?

Kinda like what happened in our last baseball search
11-21-2023, 06:36 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by Ezsoil

Kinda like what happened in our last baseball search

Visions of Chadwell making the rounds at the SEC Championship game telling everyone he got the job before it's officially announced just popped into my head.
11-21-2023, 06:42 PM
Santiago

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Originally Posted by Mjoelner34

Visions of Chadwell making the rounds at the SEC Championship game telling everyone he got the job before it's officially announced just popped into my head.

Did that happen?
I do remember a certain AD going on the radio gushing about the future HC. Cohen definitely enjoyed the attention.
11-21-2023, 06:43 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

The fact we're refusing to even consider coordinators pissses me off. Our best coach came here as a coordinator. This idea we should accept a bad hire simply because we're only looking at head coaches is dumb as hell. Go talk to coordinators and see what their plan is. Selling a high ceiling is better than accepting mediocrity.

I get it, we have spoken to a coordinator though. But depending on how things shake out, we could end up with a sitting P5 coach. Long shot but I think you have to have that conversation for that particular coach and go down that path of interest.
11-21-2023, 06:45 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by Santiago

Did that happen?
I do remember a certain AD going on the radio gushing about the future HC. Cohen definitely enjoyed the attention.

I wasn't in Omaha but I heard Schloss was there telling people he had the job.
11-21-2023, 06:59 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

But here?s the thing- with all the realignment still to come- it?s not going to matter who we hire.

https://twitter.com/gswaim/status/17...YKXqKt8QQD9Mtw

Wut? Of course it matters. Quit being such a pu$$y.
11-21-2023, 07:19 PM
Cowbell

This thread makes me thankful that I have been on this board long enough to know who to trust and I can quickly scan past the other 90% of clutter...
11-21-2023, 07:39 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

I read comments like this and start laughing. Maybe I said it wrong because no one really knows what their athletic budget is because they are private. I do know this, they have plenty of money. They can spend it like they choose to spend it. But if they decide to get serious about football, they can pay as much or more than we can for a HC. Probably more. Their facilities are nicer than ours. Their IPF is top notch. Doesn't look like our trailer trash Mississippi building.
Some of you have tunnel vision. There's actually some nice places outside the SEC believe it or not.

Then say that in your original post instead of crap like their athletic budget dwarfs ours

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