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11-30-2019, 09:44 PM
runwildjerious

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Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog

The early signing period doesn?t matter when you have a bad coach. You sign a potentially better coach that can make the players and team better. It isn?t that hard.

This! I mean, Joe lost 5 games with top NFL talent. Who cares what HS players he gets if he can?t help them get better?
11-30-2019, 09:44 PM
HailStateSZN19

No offense to anyone and appreciate those who have legit sources bringing info here but I’ll believe this when I see it. I fell for this too much the first go around and got to excited and got my hopes up.
11-30-2019, 09:45 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Jacksondevildog

The early signing period doesn?t matter when you have a bad coach. You sign a potentially better coach that can make the players and team better. It isn?t that hard.

The players that are committed now are committed to a Joe Moorhead coached team. You think we make a coaching change 4 days before signing day we will keep all those guys? You're out of your mind.
11-30-2019, 09:45 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by DDawg

Dont assume its something that would negatively affect early signing period...

Anything us blue collar boosters can do to help move the needle? I mean, my brother, who played at OM, text me the news first (rosebowl) and said he felt like they really won the egg bowl after all....
11-30-2019, 09:46 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

The players that are committed now are committed to a Joe Moorhead coached team. You think we make a coaching change 4 days before signing day we will keep all those guys? You're out of your mind.

Who cares? Having the correct coach is infinitely more important
11-30-2019, 09:46 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Nope.

Liver my problem with you is that you don't explain yourself. You just state things as if "Nope" is adding to the conversation or going to change anyone's mind. Enunciate stuff like this or don't post

in the their thread it was like pulling teeth to get you to say why you felt keeping moorhead was best, and even then I still can't get you to answer my questions about you logic on Napier not wanting the job if we fired Joe. If you're so confident in your position then tell us the logic you used to get there
11-30-2019, 09:47 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

The players that are committed now are committed to a Joe Moorhead coached team. You think we make a coaching change 4 days before signing day we will keep all those guys? You're out of your mind.

Of course we wouldnt, he's saying you don't keep a coach for a recruiting class. If the coach sucks, it doesn't matter what recruits he gets. Get the coaching situation fixed first and foremost, regardless of what it does to recruiting.
11-30-2019, 09:47 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by HailStateSZN19

No offense to anyone and appreciate those who have legit sources bringing info here but I’ll believe this when I see it. I fell for this too much the first go around and got to excited and got my hopes up.

Yep. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me 47 times, I'm a gullible dumb ass. I'm done.
11-30-2019, 09:48 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg

Nope.

LP, did you ever play competitive American football at a level higher than jv?
11-30-2019, 09:48 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Of course we would, he's saying you don't keep a coach for a recruiting class. If the coach sucks, it doesn't matter what recruits he gets. Get the coaching situation fixed first and foremost, regardless of what it does to recruiting.

Butch Jones says hello.
11-30-2019, 09:49 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by CovertDawg

Sorry, but 6 figure donations don't move the needle. I know several couples that give 6 figures annually and cheer for their Bulldogs.... and don't try to call the shots. There are much more of these people than you think.

That sounds sound. I believe no competitive P5 program survives without their cigar boys. Like it or not, we have to depend on them shoving their money in the right places. It's just the way the real world works.
11-30-2019, 09:49 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Of course we wouldnt, he's saying you don't keep a coach for a recruiting class. If the coach sucks, it doesn't matter what recruits he gets. Get the coaching situation fixed first and foremost, regardless of what it does to recruiting.

Rep given
11-30-2019, 09:50 PM
DDawg

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Better not be talking about Clemsons' OC or DC because those guys 'aint leaving and better program than us have tried

Nope, Defensive minded guy born and played college ball in Louisiana who has been in Carolina for a couple of years and comes from a pretty well respected coaching tree. Name really came out of nowhere, but to me would really make a splash however I'm not sure that he is still in the picture after what has transpired.
11-30-2019, 09:54 PM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Who cares? Having the correct coach is infinitely more important

You could just make the change 10 days from now.
11-30-2019, 09:56 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Who cares? Having the correct coach is infinitely more important

And who says they are all gonna sign?? If that falls apart oh boy. And with that said, we have ONE guy, one who is from an out of state high school committed. One. Thought he was the recruiting guru.... I've said it once and I'll say it again, this staff works harder than the last staff at recruiting. Show me some difference in results. I've seen the difference in coaching
11-30-2019, 09:58 PM
War Machine Dawg

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Originally Posted by DDawg

Nope, Defensive minded guy born and played college ball in Louisiana who has been in Carolina for a couple of years and comes from a pretty well respected coaching tree. Name really came out of nowhere, but to me would really make a splash however I'm not sure that he is still in the picture after what has transpired.

If we go the coordinator route AGAIN after Moor Inability to Score, we are idiots. Especially if Napier still wants the job or by some miracle we could pull Norvell, although I think Norvell is more likely destined for FSU.
11-30-2019, 10:02 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

And who says they are all gonna sign?? If that falls apart oh boy. And with that said, we have ONE guy, one who is from an out of state high school committed. One. Thought he was the recruiting guru.... I've said it once and I'll say it again, this staff works harder than the last staff at recruiting. Show me some difference in results. I've seen the difference in coaching

Let's just be honest, this current recruiting class is not that great. We need to stop pretending like it is.
11-30-2019, 10:03 PM
DDawg

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

If we go the coordinator route AGAIN after Moor Inability to Score, we are idiots. Especially if Napier still wants the job or by some miracle we could pull Norvell, although I think Norvell is more likely destined for FSU.

Let me tell you, this is a guy who would be a coming from a major role. Has been wanting to get back into college for a while and would have 100 times the impact of Napier OR Norvell. However, there would be more questions with his hire than those two but it was a very interesting candidate to be thrown into the mix. Apparently, he has a close personal connection with someone inside the athletic department who gauged his interest which there was alot more than they could have anticipated.
11-30-2019, 10:04 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

That we 17 this up lol. I have no idea on this latest rumor see my above post about Larry Coker lol.

What's the biggest screw up? That we beat OM and Moorhead went stupid in the presser?
11-30-2019, 10:05 PM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Let's just be honest, this current recruiting class is not that great. We need to stop pretending like it is.

My point
11-30-2019, 10:06 PM
DDawg

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Let's just be honest, this current recruiting class is not that great. We need to stop pretending like it is.

Hence, the 1 - 2 week window....
11-30-2019, 10:06 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg

If we go the coordinator route AGAIN after Moor Inability to Score, we are idiots. Especially if Napier still wants the job or by some miracle we could pull Norvell, although I think Norvell is more likely destined for FSU.

If it’s who I was told last week, very surprised by the name, then it’s not a normal coordinator you are thinking of. Or not from a normal program.
11-30-2019, 10:07 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Let's just be honest, this current recruiting class is not that great. We need to stop pretending like it is.

About normal...even for Mullen
11-30-2019, 10:08 PM
War Machine Dawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

If it’s who I was told last week, very surprised by the name, then it’s not a normal coordinator you are thinking of. Or not from a normal program.

Now THAT makes me curious. PM? Clearly the public mentioning of names a couple of days ago didn't help our situation, so no need in doing it again. Let's learn a lesson for once.
11-30-2019, 10:09 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

delete
11-30-2019, 10:09 PM
DDawg

Eric Washington
11-30-2019, 10:10 PM
shrimp

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Originally Posted by DDawg

Let me tell you, this is a guy who would be a coming from a major role. Has been wanting to get back into college for a while and would have 100 times the impact of Napier OR Norvell. However, there would be more questions with his hire than those two but it was a very interesting candidate to be thrown into the mix. Apparently, he has a close personal connection with someone inside the athletic department who gauged his interest which there was alot more than they could have anticipated.

Eric Washington?
11-30-2019, 10:11 PM
NeuteredDawg

Eric Washington. Current D coordinator with Carolina Panthers. Would be a terrible hire.
11-30-2019, 10:12 PM
Political Hack

People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.
11-30-2019, 10:13 PM
Pinto

This guy?
11-30-2019, 10:13 PM
runwildjerious

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Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg

Eric Washington. Current D coordinator with Carolina Panthers. Would be a terrible hire.

Agreed. But keep up the info on everything else. I don’t think it is helpful to put names out there anymore.
11-30-2019, 10:13 PM
ScottH

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Originally Posted by shrimp

Eric Washington?

Panthers DC or at least he was.
11-30-2019, 10:13 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by Dawgfan77

All I got right now but some wheels are moving

PM me !!! ****
11-30-2019, 10:14 PM
NeuteredDawg

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Originally Posted by runwildjerious

Agreed. But keep up the info on everything else. I don’t think it is helpful to put names out there anymore.

I don?t think it matters. Nobody here knows anything.
11-30-2019, 10:14 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by NeuteredDawg

Eric Washington. Current D coordinator with Carolina Panthers. Would be a terrible hire.

Yeah no thanks. I want an offensive mind. Hell, even Saban's teams are losing after scoring 40+ these days. Defense is still important, but I want a head coach with an offensive background in today's college football
11-30-2019, 10:15 PM
HoopsDawg

21 commits. 7 Jucos that are tough to rate. 12 ms high school kids. 1 from GA and 1 from AL.
11-30-2019, 10:15 PM
runwildjerious

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

If we keep him it will be a ghost town. How do they not realize this? Are they really happy with the way our team has performed the past two years?

Shit like this pisses me off. I was happy when Cohen was named AD because I thought he wouldn’t be ok with underachieving at MSU. Looks like I was way off on him.
11-30-2019, 10:15 PM
DDawg

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Yeah no thanks. I want an offensive mind. Hell, even Saban's teams are losing after scoring 40+ these days. Defense is still important, but I want a head coach with an offensive background in today's college football

Supposedly his hiring would be contingent on the quality of assistants he could either bring in or keep.
11-30-2019, 10:16 PM
msu15

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Originally Posted by Pinto

This guy?

**** that I’d rather keep fat boy.
11-30-2019, 10:16 PM
CadaverDawg

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Originally Posted by Political Hack

People are pissed but the admin isn't back down. This is bad guys. Bad bad. We've somehow managed to self impose something worse than probation. We've alienated our money guys and fan base all at the same time. I get they can tell the boosters to F-off with the TV money coming in, but the empty stadium isn't something they'll be able to recover from. I'm honestly worried that's where this is headed.

Unbelievable.
At least it's not happening in the public like Tennessee's, but I wish somehow we'd end up getting what we want.
Which is damn near anything but Moor Joe

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