Ah okay that makes more sense. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Ah okay that makes more sense. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I gotta say I'm impressed with how the staff did today! Several players with national offers pulled in and signed. Nice!
Lebby kept reiterating that there were a few more that they're hopeful to get in the boat over the next couple days. Anyone have a list of potentials?
I don't think recruiting rankings are the end all be all, so I'm not freaking out, but our avg per recruit is dead last in the sec. And we're close to 1 behind #15 (Kentucky), which is a good bit.
That's all I was trying to say and everyone jumped all over me. We did good considering the circumstances, but if you sort rankings by average player rating we are #44 in the country. I'm glad we got who we got, they're Dawgs and I'll pull for them, but I want to be realistic on what we really accomplished compared to other SEC teams because in case you didn't notice that's who we can't seem to beat lately.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I know JJ Hill and Womack. Don?t know anyone else. I have to assume/hope we are focusing most of our resources on the portal.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Cooper Crosby commits...https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8UCc4ub/ not sure how to link this
There are several flips we made today both in state and out of state with very impressive offer sheets. Still took a lot of lower ranked three stars with very limited offers. Maybe some will be that "diamond in the rough". Hail State! Keep Flipping!Quote:
Originally Posted by HoopsDawg
I taught at Gulfport High for a number of years and they could never get past the first round. What?s different about them this year? They?re playing for a State championship this weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by BorneDawg
Picked up Edge Chris Addison, who flipped from Michigan State to the real MSU. High 3 star.
That?s good. I just can?t get excited about high school prospects anymore unless they are high 4 stars or better. Any development player cant help next season and could end up transferring before contributing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
I?m amazed at the number of MC graduates and even USM folks that don?t claim their alma mater but rather om.. Sort of like a Mississippi poor man's Bama sidewalk fan......Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
I have a question for the guys with connections.
With us picking up so many recruits today.. did we take a big chunk out of the money for the transfer portal? Is there money dedicated just for high school recruiting? After reading some posts about high school recruiting it got me to thinking. Maybe some of the posters are right on getting so many guys you have to develop. Especially in todays game in which they can just up and transfer.
This is a genuine question with no ill will. I'm happy with what Lebby and the guys did today! Just trying to learn a little bit.
I know him well enough to tell you his character belongs in the velvet ditch lolQuote:
Originally Posted by 1eyedog
We need bodies, ones that can play at every position. This looks like a roster flip, if we are bringing in 20 plus from the portal that’s nearly 50 new players. Bring them in, if they can get it done keep them if not you have to process them. It’s a shitty business but it’s the way things are now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
Yep. You have to think some are going to process themselves through the portal and some are going to get processed and asked to find new homes. No re-homing fees for the current dogs though so there is that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
Yes sir I completely understand that. Definitely need more depth and I see guys have already jumped in the portal. I'm sure they were told to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I just didn't know if we used a bunch of money to get these guys today. We definitely have to utilize the portal.
One thing about it is you have to remember the players we process out we aren't paying for anymore and that frees up a lot of NIL capital depending on how many get processed out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
32 players on the current roster are moving on. If Whitson can?t get a medical redshirt it will be 33. Thst is counting the current portal entrants. More will be processed and more will choose to portal themselves.
I can easily see 50 holes needing to be filled.
31 signees to date. At least 2 more possible by Friday. So the portal is gonna be between 16 and 25 to round us out to 105.
So how exactly does that work? Is their money just cut off immediately?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Does a school have to carry a roster of 105, or is that just a limit set by the NCAA? Why not carry 85, and maximize your NIL to get better players?
What are the chances on Darby and Cooley?
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Thick
Because there are only so many sure fire players out there and none of them are going anywhere to sit on the bench. Talent is spread out because players don't want to ride the pine. That bottom 3rd of the roster you have to throw as much sh*t against the wall as you can and hope to get lucky. All of them are basically the same players pedigree wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
We are in the mix.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
The flips turned our ranking around, but 15 of these signees are ranked .86 or .85 with one OL even being ranked a .84, (and many having very questionable offer sheets, but maybe a few diamonds in the rough will develop). We are still far below most of the other teams in the SEC. On the other side of the coin we were one of the very few teams to give a kicker a full ride. He is rated a .81, but a five star as a kicker and a 4 star as a punter on the kickers only rating site, but still pulls down your ranking per player. We must continue to improve on our recruiting cla$$e$, both HS/JC and the portal to move up in our talent level in the SEC..Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Giving a kicker and punter a low rating despite being good is beyond dumb. What's the reasoning for doing this? Kickers and punters can win and lose gamesQuote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Because evaluators don't know how to properly evaluate kickers. The only people that do are the kicking evaluators. Kohl's is the best at that and has Chambers rated as the 8th best kicker in the class.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I have never understood this either. Maybe some of you guys who really follow and "understand" the recruiting rating system can provide more insight.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Kohl's gave him the five star rating as a kicker and a four star as a punter. His HS has a long history of producing college kickers and a few have made the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Which is why I know he's pretty good. The last kicker we had rated this high was Evan McPherson......too bad Mullen stole him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
They also ranked him the #8 kicker in the country and we also have Ferrie back for his SR year, correct? Keep the pipeline full.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Same high school.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I would use the 85 man roster every year. Recruit at a higher lvl, and be transparent about my intentions. All true freshman would be scout team. (There could be exceptions to that rule) Regardless, until the portal is controlled, you can lose starters and second and third teamers annually. Easy come, easy go?..wash, rinse, and repeat! I would not waste money/time on an extra 20 heads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarius
South Carolina seems to be updating the model...only sign about 15 hs guys, and spend a lot of money on them. Then spend the rest of your cash on the portal. Don't waste money on the backend 10-15 hs recruits who will likely never crack your 2-deep
I said this should be the plan a few pages back,Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Georgia lost some guys because they wouldnt pay freshmen on the front end very much. I like that model as well. Make them earn some money before paying anything significant
The thing im not clear on is schools have to spend the 20.5 million right. And funding full scholarships counts 2.5 toward that 20.5. So maybe it?s better for the AD budget to fully fund scholarships. Otherwise, I would have no more than 85 on scholarship. And I would probably only have 50 earning scholarships + rev share. Then maybe 25 of that 50 earning scholarship+rev+nil. This is off the top of my head but you guys know what im saying. Focus our dollars on the starting units, key positions, and do the best we can on depth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Most teams only pay about 45-50 any significant amount. The rest are limited NIL guys with as much upside as you can find. The more you got, the more likely you can find a few you like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
Even a limited NIL deal can be a better deal than a lot of places.
This is what makes the most sense to me by far. Your class ranking won't be great but who cares? Do what's best for your program not one day of crootin' bragging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely