Who has he recruited? Kelley Jones is not his. That’s not his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Who has he recruited? Kelley Jones is not his. That’s not his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
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Well, it isn't Briles.
It ain't Briles. ESPN ticker to South Carolina
Then I got a ESPN notification saying that Briles is finalizing a deal with South Carolina. HahaQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
1. That's my cryptic read into it. Part of us being tight lipped. Edit - well I'm wrong. So much for wishcasting myself smh.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
2. Feels weird compared to the rest of these coaching searches how much his name exploded. But then again the WR coach news was mostly hush hush "known but don't say anything" until it started leaking around before. Read into why that might be if you will.
3. Fair on Pernell - I'm basically putting my hope on it. Brock as LB feels done-ish, and yea I don't have a spot for Jett as a GA to roll on but he's hopefully a great teacher because he ain't got talent but he could play. Shows that teaching makes a difference.
4. As we're seeing with Safeties coach - we aren't getting our pick of the litter. And 34 pointed out the big thing. SEC player vs. non-SEC player. His style of coaching and what we'll ask of corners on an island to do will work... if they are talented freaking corners. So can coach the ones who belong at this level, burnt toast however is just burnt toast no matter the coach. Optics are going to be brutal if Bell is retained / Bumphis leaves. But - Lebby should just have one more year to prove it, right? So does this decision make it any hotter of a seat (I know we think the 3 year DC contract means something against that but how much is it to buyout after next year?)
It’s tough to scheme around no talent, the egg bowl should have been evidence enough, they picked on anyone not named Jones every time we got singled up and it paid off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
thats my point. Its about the talent we bring in. We got to spend. Who we have as coaches dont matter to me. Just like I wont know very many of the names of our players.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Alot of shit just doesnt matter anymore. Its just alot of minutia and dolla bills. Car salesman shit
Grabbing a backup CB from Kennesaw State and a Memphis player in the portal will do it to you on most days.
Welp….there goes Briles. Cross that one off the list.
So what? Never for a second thought it was happening. Lebbo is going to run the O.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Of course it matters. Money is even on both sides a lot of the time and we have coaches that have been losing those type battles regularly. Now a lot of that is because we went 2-10 and no one with other options would choose to come here unless we vastly overspent, but recruiting definitely still matters. Acting like teams are just going to the grocery store and picking out ingredients instead of recruiting is not true most of the time. There are instances of that for sure but we are largely just getting our a$$es whipped in the living room.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Or... Is Jones just that good? I played with 2 guys who played in the MLB. 1 still is and has been for 8+ years now. And let me tell you that when it's God given... you don't have to be coached. These 2 guys were the most "no practice" guys on the team, but they just had God given ability to play the game. One of them had D-1 offers in all 3 sports. Actually committed to Mississippi State in those 3 sports, Billy Hamilton. And he will tell you to this day that he wish he would have practiced harder at the start of his MLB career. Cause he sure didn't practice hard until about 4 years in. He had things you can't teach.
I think Kelly is just a freak. God has blessed him with the ability to line up, don't even stretch, and probably cover anybody. So I wouldn't bet my coaching career on 1 guy being an absolute stud and hanging on to Bell if I'm Lebby. But that's just my take on it. He has all the things you can't teach. Speed, length, reaction, burst, etc. You're not gonna go buy many Kelly Jones in the portal cause there isn't any.
Yet he was only a 3*... he developed late in year 2. He's steadily gotten better since being on campus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
True. Brumfield was also a 3 star. Most of our CB's are. But they aren't 6'4 with the ++athletic ability Jones has. But, out of high school they were dudes. It's just hard for me to believe that none of them have the talent to play at this level. I think it's more on the development side but by no means am I a coach or evaluator. Thats why Im just a fan lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater
I think he was a HS QB. Seems like a lot of good CBs have started thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
Jimmy's & Joe's definitely make the difference with any coach. However, if Bump was let go and didn't leave on his own Lebby just made another bone head decision.
If Lebby told him to not leak team sensitive info to MSU fan site writers and he did after being warned not to Lebby had no choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
The idea of Briles was great. I do not believe he is a better play caller than Jeff Lebby, but he is the only coach that I believe Jeff would give up play calling to get. It?s far more likely though that Jeff is dead against giving up play calling, and he shouldn?t give up play calling. His play calling is why he was hired, and we are in the era of play calling head coaches. Just about every offensive minded head coach calls his own plays.
Dan Mullen was never going to give up play calling either.
So, if Holocek is getting replaced, it will likely be by someone who knows the scheme and had head coaching experience to give Jeff a guy to lean on (Philip Montgomery) or an up and comer who wants the title and wants to learn from Jeff Lebby (Kevin Decker or someone like that).
At WR coach, Steve Spurrier Jr would be an excellent choice.
Yeah, pretty simple. Hadad was on the radio yesterday trying to get ahead of any talk of him being the one that Bumphis had given any information too; assuming those rumors are true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
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Hadad wasn't the only oneQuote:
Originally Posted by AlSwearengen
And had we actually been able to retain Brice Pollock, we?d have have two first rounders playing CB this year. And that?s the difference in two games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroon Glasses
Maybe Darcel knew a thing or two about recruiting..
WR coach will either be Nix, Peeler, or Shay HodgeQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Are we serious with Nix or just a backup plan if the others fall thru?
Shay Hodge cannot work for Miss State. I do not think that is going to be the case. If so, that is a huge misstep.
Player development and missing on Caleb Cunningham were also a part of that decision!Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Nix would be a hell of an option. He'd be an improvement over Bumphis. He can recruit and develop. Hell 4 different OM HCs kept him because he's that damn good of a recruiter and developer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I don't know that Derrick helps you with Caleb all that much but he may help you a WHOLE LOT with Cam Coleman.
Just 3 years ago we said this exact thing about David Turner. Will Nix come here and mail it in like Turner?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I'd say it's fairly apparent the direction we are moving, getting crooters in the building.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Shay Hodge? Really? Lebby mining his previous connections when he was at Ole Miss. Was Nix on staff at OM with Lebby?Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Y'all don't know how hard he was still working without knowing he had a job or not, he was AU's lead guy on Crosby and was at every playoff game that kid played. Relentless recruiter.Quote:
Originally Posted by gtowndawg
Answered my own question. Nix was on staff with Lebby.
I will say on Nix, Rosebowl does not believe he's a candidate. I've heard he was and there's a few others that have heard the same. Will he be the hire? I have zero clue. I had no clue we were firing Bumphis til yesterday and a guy on staff said it was not breaking news inside the walls of the Seal Building.
I know Derrick wants the USM head job but I don't think he gets it. Their AD REALLY wants Freeze and some of their boosters, the few they have, want Blake Anderson. I think Blake would take it so I don't think it would get to Derrick. I have no clue if Derrick would go back to OM. My guess and from what I've heard out of Oxford is that there's a possibility but they are looking elsewhere for now.
Player development? The WR's have never been the problem under Bumphis. Also, Caleb Cunningham went to the highest bidder. That's not Bumphis fault. MSU has NEVER signed a 5 star WR in it's entire history and it's Bumphis' fault that history repeated itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thick
Lebby brought in the receivers that contributed, not Chad. Development was an issue!Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Ty Howle named VT OC. Franklin did not retain Montgomery
Lebby is keeping everyone in the dark it seems.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yeah, he had to learn how to play CB. That's why he RS'ed. But his talent is ridiculous. To be that big and be able to cover is incredible. You can teach positioning, hand fighting, angles- but you cant teach someone to be 6'4 with length and smother people. Just like our guy Cinnamon Toast #4- he cant smother people. You teach him all you can- but at the end of the day he has to win 1 on 1's. He's on his own there. Got to CrootQuote:
Originally Posted by Tater