Mullen and MSU history

Nailed that one Todd...

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

It's not a question of "can we afford it?" as much as it is about "what is the smartest way to spend our money?" We can afford to do it- but is it smart? Financially it's not because it would cost us home games along with the other things I mentioned.

All recruits see are wins and losses. They look at the bottom line. And if you have a lot of wins and are going to good bowls- that's what is attractive to them. Not us playing Maryland. How many recruits are going to say "Yeah! I saw State play Boston College." The best exposure we can possibly have is beating Alabama, LSU, and the other big boys in the SEC. That's the truth. Everything else is Scott blowing smoke up everyone's ass. See the Oklahoma State debacle this year where all the National media talked about was Oklahoma State and we got embarrassed and beat up and the Kentucky Thursday night game that was "the only game on" if you don't count the NFL game and the World Series.

If we want to start to beat SEC powerhouses- you don't do it by getting yourself beat up playing BYU and not developing your depth. If our head coach can't take advantage of that- that's on him and it should be addressed, but the way to address it is not to play BYU. It's up to the coach and the players to start beating better teams- but it's up to the MSU AD to put them in a situation to do it.

How many MSU fans do you know that sit around the Junction and say- "gee I really want to see us play Iowa State"? Probably about as many that sit around and say "I want to see us play Bowling Green." So, why if you are the athletic director would you not take the cheaper option and better chance to win?

And as far as recruiting nationally- we're MUCH better off focusing on Mississippi than trying to pick all the talent out of Iowa or Maryland. Mississippi is where we are and where most of our top recruits come from. We can build a very solid program with Mississippi talent and then adding in some players from the surrounding area- Louisiana in particular. Again, we just need a coach that can manage the roster a little bit better and use the schedule to his advantage. Don't believe me? Look at where our recent top draft picks are from- Sherrod, Cox, Banks, and now Gabe Jackson. And in the very near future- Chris Jones.

Who is hiding under the porch and hiding from the big boys? We play Alabama, LSU, Texas A&M, and Auburn every year. Arkansas and Ole Miss are respectable programs most years- plus whatever team we play from the east not named Kentucky. It's that redneck "I'm a tough guy" attitude that led to us playing Auburn, Alabama, LSU, and Ole Miss all in a row on the road in the 50's and 60's that has led to our current state of the program. And you're wanting to go back to it? Who are you trying to impress? ESPN? Recruits with our losing record? Recruits in Utah? It's not about being scared- it's about being smart. If we were USM in their heyday, I'd be all for playing people like Alabama, LSU, etc non-conference. Because otherwise they don't play anyone in conference worth a darn. We are the opposite. We play in the most difficult conference in America.

Wait a minute- we scheduled a CWS appearance? Someone tell Bianco you can do that. I think it helped us just like going to the Sugar Bowl would help the football program. Oh wait- the best way to do that would be with a manageable schedule. And before you argue "well our SOS would be too low!" - remember last year we were just outside the top 10 in the BCS last year when we were undefeated. Right before we played the top teams in the SEC- Bama, LSU, and A&M. And winning those three would have vaulted us to the top not to mention beating Georgia in the SEC championship game.

The formula to win big is there, but we have too many fans with their heads in the sand to see it. Instead we have morons that think all we're going for is 6-6 so that we can keep Dan. All the while proposing a model that would actually cost us more money and hurt our recruiting even more and has been proven to not work.

You lost me at "all recruits see are wins and losses. They look at the bottom line".

You think 4 and 5 star recruits from Florida and Texas and Georgia, etc. are that stupid? You think they are equally impressed by us beating Alcorn St. while all the other teams recruiting them are getting big time wins on national TV? You think they go to sleep at night dreaming of getting that big touchdown catch against Jackson St?

You think visiting us when we play Troy is a good thing?

You are putting all of our eggs in one basket. Everything rides on us beating Alabama, LSU, A&M, etc. Alcorn one week then Alabama, Troy, then LSU, Jackson St. then A&M is what we are doing now. Is is working?

For credibility and a national presence, we need to win some higher profile games. Do the teams actually have to be good? Nope. They just have to have a name that is recognizable outside of the northern half of Mississippi. Had not thought of Boston College. Might work. Several ACC teams would. Some crappy Mountain West teams, whoever.

It does matter, in the end, who we beat. It matters a lot. A win is not a win when it comes to the big time recruits. If we continue to put all of our hopes in knocking off Alabama and LSU back to back, things will not change. Not gonna happen.

Todd nailed it. We play big games in conference. We don't need to schedule #10 to prove a point because we already play #1, #3, #11, and #15. This isn't rocket science.

And what have we proven playing #1, #3, #11, and #15 ? That we can lose and not even be competitive with good teams ? Hack, with all due respect our program is broken and has become a laughing stock for not being able to compete at a much higher than SWAC level. It was our dirty little secret til mid season last year and now we`re not a secret anymore. Our coaching is poor,our recruiting is stagnant and leadership has totally left the building. I`m in no way saying it can`t be turned around even possibly by Mullen but scheduling gimmicks can only carry us so far.

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Originally Posted by ckDOG

My point is - MSU has always been mediocre and we are still mediocre to this day. You are just getting the better rewards for mediocrity in 2013 and higher cost to play the game confused with actual improvement and greater success. We still are in our place and it's at the very bottom. Look it up.

See- this is bullshit

We are one of only 7 SEC teams to go to 3 straight bowls- that's top half of the SEC
We have won 2 of those 3 bowls- that's top half of the SEC
2 of the last 3 years we have gone 4-4 in conference- that's top half of the SEC

We are not on the bottom of the SEC and you know it- stop being a dumbass

Are you serious? We are easily in the bottom quarter of the conference.