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That's your thing. "I disagree"Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
You are reaching hard here with no evidence. Seen it in person and its been reported by many that have that Mayden is at least as good of a passer as KT right now. I love KT. Im pulling for him but Stevens is probably better and he will start if he comes here. KT has done everything right and has done nothing but win, but the best player has to play. If that's KT then great, but there's a reason Moorhead is taking Stevens and its not bc he doesnt like KT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Not to mention that we do have the room, anybody that is against taking Stevens is either A. Moorhead hater or B. Willfully ignorant
I stand by what I said. Dak as a sophomore wasn't Dak we know today. Give KT as many snaps as Dak got and the numbers wouldn't be far off and statistically KT would actually be on pace to shatter Dak's #'s. Buttttttttt cOmpLeTion % tho derrrr!Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
The fact that Moorhead wouldn't even give KT one series at LSU, one of the worst QB'd games I've ever seen at MSU, tells me a lot about the confidence Moorhead has in KT. That being said, I don't know enough about Stevens to know if he would be better than KT or not but I'm trusting that JoMo does.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Love how you totally disregard KT's running ability. How many rushing TDs he got again? Yards? Etc... and no I don't want Stevens cause it'll capsize our entire built up Qb depth once everyone else bolts and were left holding our dicks 6 months from now.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
The only one that would possibly bolt is KT and it would be understandable. Where did I say KT couldnt run the ball? He can run it, but he is struggling to throw it. How many times have we been down the road of not being able to throw the football at all? Keeping the status quo will result in that happening again in 2019.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Stevens is a 1 year player and will bridge the gap for Will Rogers or Shrader. My money is on Rogers.
How the hell can you say that McSorley and Fitz are in the same ballpark? McSorley is a FAR better QB. And that?s nothing against Nick. I will go to bat for Nick any day of the week because he put it on the line every time he put on that jersey, but with Trace McSorley as QB last year we are an 11 win teamQuote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
And this is based on....Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
IF that did happen we would go out and get either/or a JUCO or another transfer QB. And it won't happen because they're not all going to transfer because we get a guy that is only going to be here one year.
McSorely is vastly better than Fitzgerald at QB. He's not as tough and he's not as good of an athlete, but at running an offense he is miles ahead. I love Fitz but I wouldve traded Fitz last year for McSorely 10 out of 10 timesQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Dak completed 62% as a redshirt freshman. KT is behind where Dak was after 2.5 years here. That doesn't necessarily mean he can't get there, but to say he's on pace is silly, especially when KT's lesser stats came against Sirmon and FCS.
Maybe I'm looking at this wrong but I'm glad that a player that has seen JoMo's system wants to follow him to state. Maybe it's the easy way out but I hope it's because he's seen what JoMo is capable of.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
No he wouldn’t have had the same numbers passing. You disregard completion percentage but that’s 10 percentage points difference. You can’t give away that many passes and equal the same production as Dak in 2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
McSorley did beat him out, barely. And he has waited for his turn. Where are you getting the other QB was named the starter this season? Stevens was injured and it was still an open competition. Penn St believed he would be the starter this fall but there are issues with how all of that was handled, especially his injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Lol you know who has a great completion %? Sam Bradford. When did that guy win anything in the NFL? Completion % ain't the end all be all. KT threw away 6-8 passes vs SFA. Like intentionally threw the ball out of bounds. That kills your completion % but it doesn't get you sacked and it doesn't get you picked. He also threw for like 360 yards but none of y'all ever mention that only "coMplTion peRcEnTage"
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I wouldn't bank on Stevens being some prolific passer. The risk isn't worth the reward here. He's only got one year left, he's not gonna be that much better throwing it than KT and he's at very best equal to KT running it. KT has two years left and you run the risk of chemistry issues within the locker room if you bring in Stevens and he expects to start immediately without earning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
No he didn’t. Watch every pass. Even some of his big completions that would have been picked or knocked down in the league. Oh and we play college ball. Bradford won a lot in college. Including the Heisman. Ridiculous comp.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
https://youtu.be/IyHSm19chkM
What? That is some high level mumbo jumbo. KT might have the tools but so far he hasn't put them together. Bring in Tommy and see if KT can beat Him out. KT couldn't out do Fitz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
So are you going to go ahead and admit that you think you know more about our qb situation than Joe moorhead? Instead of calling me a genespage homer, Just tell the world that you are arrogant enough to see a player 3 times in 3 years against terrible competition, watch no practices in 2 years, and know that we should not be getting a transfer qb to take his spot. Come on. Tell us. You have a quarter of the information and run your mouth like you have any sort of clue. There is a difference in giving an opinion on our qb situation and stating things matter of factly like you are doing with no evidence to back anything up. This Stevens kid may suck. I have no clue. I do not pretend to have all of the answers when I do not have all of the info though.
And no, we would have won the Egg Bowl if we would have not had 5 turnovers. Blaming that on the defense is more ignorance. When you give a team 5 extra possessions, your defense is going to crack.
High level mumbo jumbo? Sorry you feel that way, you'd understand it when you have no choice but to understand it. Since when is a sophomore expected to beat out Fitzgerald (a top 5 all-time MSU QB)? Nobody was beating out legacy Fitz. Sophomore Dak woulda sat behind senior Fitz. Moorhead was always going to start Fitz no matter who was the backup. Remember him calling him and telling him to clear out space for the Heisman?Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE5TdbijIeoQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
That's such a strange example. Bradford was an outstanding college QB, and one of the main reasons for that is because he was so accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Doesn?t like him??? Come on now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
If Stevens can win us more ballgames and is a better fit for the offense then EVERYONE should be on board.
So courting And trying to get Kelly Bryant was ok, but we can?t go after Stevens ?
Obsessing over completion % is so damn stupid. A QB can complete bubble screens all day long and have a glorious completion % while also never winning anything.
I'm not getting into who is better than who and all that, but yeah, completion % is a poor stat to judge a QB by in of itselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Sure, but Dak, KT, Stevens, and Sam Bradford don't/didn't do that, so we don't have to worry about skew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
A high completion % does not make someone a good quarterback. A completion % under 50 % does make someone a shitty quarterback though, which is the entire point.
I dont get what's so hard to understand...Moorhead has seen and called plays for both. Practiced and played with them more than anyone on this board or in the fanbase ever will, EVER yet you still pounding the table we shouldnt take Stevens. If we are taking him its bc Moorhead knows he can at the very least make it a competition. Competition will make everyone better. And no its not bc Moorhead doesnt like KT. Its a good move for both parties if we take him. If KT decides that he wants to leave we should wish him the best and be grateful he won us some games and was a great representative of the programQuote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
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Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Ha, you must be smoking some prime shit. This just popping into you head. Joe would start the best, why not? Every one and their Brother said Fitz was miles ahead of KT. Not even close, but for some reason you seem to be all knowing. Are you a legend in your own mind.
Here's the thing about that. Even if KT doesn't beat out Stevens should he come to MSU he is still going to be the clear cut starter for 2020. If not 2021 if he redshirts.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
Moorhead was going with Fitz hell or high water didn't matter who was behind him. Take your blinders off horse.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
That is your retort? Weak as shit. Who besides your dreaming ass said KT should have started. No ****ing body, that's who.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
Where did I say Keytaon should of started over Fitz bud? Learn how to read. I said it shouldn't be used as a knock against the SOPHOMORE Keytaon that Moorhead didn't pick him to start over the SENIOR Fitzgerald.Quote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
I wouldnt be so sure about that. Like I've said I love KT and in a perfect world he def would deserve to start in 2019 and after that. But this aint a perfect worldQuote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
That means Moorhead is potentially losing two years of a starting QB if KT transfers to add one year of maybe a slightly better player. Maybe. Stevens hasn't been in Moorhead's QB room for 18 months now while KT has been neck deep in it since Joe arrived. I actually seriously doubt Stevens is better than KT at running Joe's offense right now. If he is then KT has just been flat out lazy at learning the system and working on his accuracy and I don't believe that's the case for either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Penn State didn't change offenses when he left. If KT leaves, he leaves. Then we go get another QB. But you can't assume that he is going to leave especially with a coach that is known for playing two QB's and KT not really having a ton of options unless he is way ahead academically that I am aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Relardo Sidney
The perfect scenario would be that Stevens is actually better than KT right now and helps us more this next year while KT redshirts and then KT ends up better off for it the next two years as our starter. That's an awfully big pride pill that KT would have to swallow but if that's how this all goes down than I could be on board for that. I am just anxious to see KT prove to everyone he's as good as I think he is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
good post ree lardo. KT need to swallow the pride but he better get on his horse cuz shrader and mayben are a coming on strong
We bring in Stevens- I'd transfer to LSU and win that job in 2020 if I was KT
He wouldn't win that job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34