Chuck is saying 4 yr probation, 2 yr bowl ban, 13 scholly's

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Completely, totally stunned with the Hugh Freeze penalty. Given everything else, that's it for him?

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

So Freeze gets a 1 year show cause and couple game suspension, but it only applies if he's a head coach. He can become a coordinator today and not miss a beat, if what I'm reading is correct.

Why wouldn't Ole Miss just hire him as a OC, let Matt run the show and they're back in business?

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That would probably cause the NCAA to open an Oxford location. They can keep Luke who knows how the Network operates and also saw how they were caught. I imagine they will crank it back up pretty soon. It will be interesting if they try some Flipmas bullshit this year.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Hasn?t OM already accounted for the 11 self imposed? If so, it would just be 13 more over 4 years.

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That’s still a whole class. That’s stiff, very stiff.

Their ceiling will be 6 wins for the next 5 or 6 seasons.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

exactly, i just posted the same thing in another thread.

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Hopefully the NCAA accepts the 11 scholarships, but not that OM has already imposed them. This possible?

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Originally Posted by confucius say

No. They have not. I believe the have accounted for 2-3

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I believe they accounted for more than that, because they couldn't even get a full class the past 2 years.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

That would probably cause the NCAA to open an Oxford location. They can keep Luke who knows how the Network operates and also saw how they were caught. I imagine they will crank it back up pretty soon. It will be interesting if they try some Flipmas bullshit this year.

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I get that. What I don't get is how long he was affiliated in some capacity with all this nonsense, even before becoming the head coach, and he gets a minor slap on the wrist? Farrar can not be too pleased on how this has gone down now, since he's basically done and Freeze will be showing up on the sidelines somewhere very soon.

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Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead

I believe they accounted for more than that, because they couldn't even get a full class the past 2 years.

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Look at Mullen, he easily accounted for 11 lost scholarships over the past 4 years.

As long as these are in addition to UM's self penalties then it is kind of bad.

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

I get that. What I don't get is how long he was affiliated in some capacity with all this nonsense, even before becoming the head coach, and he gets a minor slap on the wrist? Farrar can not be too pleased on how this has gone down now, since he's basically done and Freeze will be showing up on the sidelines somewhere very soon.

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I kinda doubt that, like Schiano, Freeze is radioactive. Any attempt to hire him would result in him being 'Tennessee'd' by the student/faculty body.

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

So, OM has 18 seniors graduating. Say 7 people transfer (conservative). They are down to 60 scholarship players. They can only sign 18 this year. That keeps them at 78 next season, right? 21 JRs the next year, assume 3 leave early or transfer. So that brings them down to 60 again, 78 total again. 29 soph. So assume the other 4 come feom that class. They sign 18 again. So after 3 years, they are at 71 scholarship players. That's it. Unless around 20 transfer, this isn't really that bad for them. Smh.

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Assuming your current class numbers and NCAA penalties of 24 scholarship reduction (6 a class for 4 years)....

I calculated that they will have;
2018- 78 scholarship players
2019 - 75
2020- 64
2021- 57

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Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh

I get that. What I don't get is how long he was affiliated in some capacity with all this nonsense, even before becoming the head coach, and he gets a minor slap on the wrist? Farrar can not be too pleased on how this has gone down now, since he's basically done and Freeze will be showing up on the sidelines somewhere very soon.

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I agree, Freeze should be done in the NCAA for orchestrating all this crap.

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Originally Posted by Doggie_Style

I kinda doubt that, like Schiano, Freeze is radioactive. Any attempt to hire him would result in him being 'Tennessee'd' by the student/faculty body.

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Some shitty program will be desperate enough to hire the guy who beat Bama twice.

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

Some shitty program will be desperate enough to hire the guy who beat Bama twice.

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Yep, as of right now all he did was call a hooker. Petrino wrecked a bike with his mistress on the back of it and he's on the sidelines coaching. Someone will hire this douchebag. It may not be as an OC, but it could be as an analyst. Regardless, his coaching career continues while those he instructed get left for dead.

Given that the penalties were stiff but not quite nuclear and that Freeze in particular got off relatively light, I think there's at least a chance the NCAA is setting them up for a second shot in a year or two if they continue operating the way they do. Maybe something additional is already in the works.

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Originally Posted by thf24

Given that the penalties were stiff but not quite nuclear and that Freeze in particular got off relatively light, I think there's at least a chance the NCAA is setting them up for a second shot in a year or two if they continue operating the way they do. Maybe something additional is already in the works.

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No they aren't. The NCAA is a joke as they showed with UNC and are about to again today

Chuck now saying 13 total. If that is true, they got of pretty easy. I know the 2 yr. bowl ban is bad, but they sure as hell didn't go by their matrix. That's for damn sure.

The question now is how exactly does the transfers work. Is it just for the Sr class in 2018 or the Jr and Sr class in 2018? If the second, that means this years So. and Jr's. That's what is confusing.

I'll be satisfied with 24, but disappointed as hell with 13. And if you remember, OM didn't sign a full class last year and will be trying to use those scholly's not used as being part of the total.

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Originally Posted by Lumpy Chucklelips

Chuck now saying 13 total. If that is true, they got of pretty easy. I know the 2 yr. bowl ban is bad, but they sure as hell didn't go by their matrix. That's for damn sure.

The question now is how exactly does the transfers work. Is it just for the Sr class in 2018 or the Jr and Sr class in 2018? If the second, that means this years So. and Jr's. That's what is confusing.

I'll be satisfied with 24, but disappointed as hell with 13. And if you remember, OM didn't sign a full class last year and will be trying to use those scholly's not used as being part of the total.

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It honestly doesn't matter either way. ESPN is reporting 24 total, but that includes 11 from 2015 to 2018 that were self imposed. So do that math, even if it's worst case ("24"), it's only about 15 over the next 3 years. I don't even think it qualifies as a slap on the wrist at this point. 2018, 2019 and maaaaybe 2020 will be rough for them. Then, they fire Luke, get a real coach, and it's back off to the races.

The biggest saving grace in all of this is that we may get better access to the 2019 MS class, even though most would've leaned our way anyway. This is a big nothing-burger.

Looking like 13 total now...