Chuck is saying 4 yr probation, 2 yr bowl ban, 13 scholly's

[Liverpooldawg]

So.... there is that. Looks like we all should be opening our pocket books now. 24 scholarships is next to nothing over 4 years. So instead of 85 they are allowed 79 for the next 3 years? that seems easy. Might as well cheat from here on out. Wish we would have paid the money for Cam now.

That?s a whole class over 4 years. That?s new scholarships allowed. At the end they are down 24 total. That?s the way it worked at USC. They are my second team and they still haven?t quite recovered. UM ain?t SC, 24 total will devastate them.

[preachermatt83]

Screw the cheating stuff people- a 2 year bowl ban is a stiff damn penalty. That is going to cost them recruits and some transfers also

Yup

[WesternSkyDawg]

COI accepted their self-imposed, then said "double that and tack on some more."

Let's not give in to what to what the Land that Time Forgot does best: spin

These will hurt. And hurt some more if players transfer.

[Maroonthirteen]

I think the NCAA's release at 10:30 will give the whole story, which OM is avoiding at this time. Can't see Freeze not getting a show cause or not being charged with LOIC.

We will see by this afternoon. However, yes, it wouldn’t surprise me if CHuck and Godfrey floated out low numbers and omitted details to mislead folks.

[Liverpooldawg]

That?s a whole class over 4 years. That?s new scholarships allowed. At the end they are down 24 total. That?s the way it worked at USC. They are my second team and they still haven?t quite recovered. UM ain?t SC, 24 total will devastate them.

You throw in transfers and other attrition.....ugly

[Ari Gold]

Guys USCw Got what 30 over 3?
They are just now getting back to the USC of old. Took them basically 7 years.
24 over 4 isn't a slap on the wrist by any means it's a big blow. And they are Umiss football not USC , not even close

[BeardoMSU]

Screw the cheating stuff people- a 2 year bowl ban is a stiff damn penalty. That is going to cost them recruits and some transfers also

This^^^^

24 scholarships for that program is monumental. And when you take into account open transfers, it's crippling.

[Sacrifice]

back to what exactly?

Back to business as usual. Fielding a competive football team and cheating there ass off with a new coach

[msstate7]

Guys USCw Got what 30 over 3?
They are just now getting back to the USC of old. Took them basically 7 years.
24 over 4 isn't a slap on the wrist by any means it's a big blow. And they are Umiss football not USC , not even close

Hasn?t OM already accounted for the 11 self imposed? If so, it would just be 13 more over 4 years.

[HoopsDawg]

Yeah, but OM smartly self-imposed 11 scholarship reductions from 2015-2018. So they have basically already taken care of that penalty through roster management. 13 over the next 4 is not that bad considering how much they cheated.

[msstate7]

Yeah, but OM smartly self-imposed 11 scholarship reductions from 2015-2018. So they have basically already taken care of that penalty through roster management. 13 over the next 4 is not that bad considering how much they cheated.

This is what I was thinking.

[PMDawg]

So, OM has 18 seniors graduating. Say 7 people transfer (conservative). They are down to 60 scholarship players. They can only sign 18 this year. That keeps them at 78 next season, right? 21 JRs the next year, assume 3 leave early or transfer. So that brings them down to 60 again, 78 total again. 29 soph. So assume the other 4 come feom that class. They sign 18 again. So after 3 years, they are at 71 scholarship players. That's it. Unless around 20 transfer, this isn't really that bad for them. Smh.

[HoopsDawg]

Hasn?t OM already accounted for the 11 self imposed? If so, it would just be 13 more over 4 years.

exactly, i just posted the same thing in another thread.

[confucius say]

Hasn?t OM already accounted for the 11 self imposed? If so, it would just be 13 more over 4 years.

No. They have not. I believe the have accounted for 2-3

[Gutter Cobreh]

So Freeze gets a 1 year show cause and couple game suspension, but it only applies if he's a head coach. He can become a coordinator today and not miss a beat, if what I'm reading is correct.

Why wouldn't Ole Miss just hire him as a OC, let Matt run the show and they're back in business?

[BeardoMSU]

Ross Bjork has to be toast, right?

[msstate7]

So, OM has 18 seniors graduating. Say 7 people transfer (conservative). They are down to 60 scholarship players. They can only sign 18 this year. That keeps them at 78 next season, right? 21 JRs the next year, assume 3 leave early or transfer. So that brings them down to 60 again, 78 total again. 29 soph. So assume the other 4 come feom that class. They sign 18 again. So after 3 years, they are at 71 scholarship players. That's it. Unless around 20 transfer, this isn't really that bad for them. Smh.

According to what players transfer. They have had back-to-back poor classes. If they lose the cream of the crop, 71 players that are not very good could be terrible for them

[BayouDawg]

I?m not believing anything until the ncaa officially releases it at 10:30. These guys are going to continue to lie right to the bitter end. Chillax guys

[PMDawg]

Somehow they have 42 freshmen on their roster. I guess a lot of practice squad guys. But that will help them get through it.

[WesternSkyDawg]

Yeah, but OM smartly self-imposed 11 scholarship reductions from 2015-2018. So they have basically already taken care of that penalty through roster management. 13 over the next 4 is not that bad considering how much they cheated.

They did, and that was a smart move. But it also contributed to a general change in their trajectory and a change in their perception around college football. The collateral damage has been huge, with high school prospects not wanting anything to do with them.

They've now gone two years with no bowl, with likely multiple more years to go.