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08-04-2023, 07:20 PM
KOdawg1

Braden is being rumored to A&M. Should've fired the fat 17er back in May.

This portal class is a complete bust filled with mediocrity. Friday night starter? Nope. Top 15 pick next year with major connections to our roster? Nope. Just a decent pitcher, a ok-ish third baseman from a crappy baseball conference, a project from the Big10, a backup catcher, and a D2 pitcher.

What a joke.
08-04-2023, 07:21 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

And MAYBE we get Montgomery. I have used MAYBE at least a dozen times in this conversation.

It ain?t over til it?s over.

The fat lady hasn?t sung yet.

Baseball is 50% mental and 90% physical or however Yogi said it.

If Steve Sunshine Pumper Robertson is posting what he posted then it is curtains. He gives this staff every excuse and break there is and even he cannot turn this one
08-04-2023, 07:54 PM
AlSwearengen

Do we have confirmation that Montgomery is going to A&M? I got a text that gene’s is in full melt down over it.
08-04-2023, 08:08 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

If Steve Sunshine Pumper Robertson is posting what he posted then it is curtains. He gives this staff every excuse and break there is and even he cannot turn this one

Steve don't know jack
08-04-2023, 08:13 PM
BigDawg81

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Steve don't know jack

If Steve is saying Texas A&M, it?s Texas A&M. He is the biggest sunshine pumper.
08-04-2023, 08:15 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by Cowbell

Steve don't know jack

I did enjoy their (free) article yesterday congratulating Kamron Beavers on making the Clarion Liar Dandy Dozen and pointing out he was a strong OM commit.******
08-04-2023, 09:17 PM
Cooterpoot

He gone. He went to A&M on a visit immediately after season. There's a connection that set it up. Lemonis is who we thought he was. A damn bum!
08-04-2023, 09:25 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Actually he has. His 1st recruiting class (2022) after the Natty was 5th in the county. His 2023 class is 12th

Our primary leaders for 2022 and 2023 were from previous classes

I will say our pitching acquisitions out of the portal have been lacking. That's where he and his staff have failed so far

"Where Lemo and his staff have failed SO FAR"?? I'd say missing Hoover 2x is a failure. Oh that's right, Lemo and Goat and Cheese aren't part of the staff. All blame for back to back season failures falls on the pitching coach

And no, getting good recruiting classes is not "capitalizing" on the NC. Winning is "capitalizing". Getting good recruits is part of winning but ultimate you have to actually win.

Lemo has been here 5 years, going into year 6. That means this past season had 3 Lemo classes. As you accurahave pointed out, most baseball players are gone in 3-4 years due to the draft. So that means 23 WAS Lemos team. Missing Hoover with Lemos own recruits is not a theory of what will happen, its factual history of what has happened.
08-04-2023, 09:40 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

He gone. He went to A&M on a visit immediately after season. There's a connection that set it up. Lemonis is who we thought he was. A damn bum!

If only we had evidence before this Portal class Lemo wasn't the guy for the job! Maybe something historically bad, like missing Hoover in back to back years. Dont worry, I'm sure year 6 is the key. You're just short sited and don't know what's best for State baseball
08-04-2023, 09:41 PM
The Federalist Engineer

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

He gone. He went to A&M on a visit immediately after season. There's a connection that set it up. Lemonis is who we thought he was. A damn bum!

Wasn't Lemons on the phone everyday with Montgomery and his Mom?

Everyday?

If this true, LSU-Arkansas-Texas A&M-Auburn are all ahead right now. MSU-Alabama-Ole Miss are fighting for that last ticket to Hoover. Lemons might as well start selling his house.
08-04-2023, 09:52 PM
SPMT

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Actually he has. His 1st recruiting class (2022) after the Natty was 5th in the county. His 2023 class is 9th

Our primary leaders for 2022 and 2023 were from previous classes

I will say our pitching acquisitions out of the portal have been lacking. That's where he and his staff have failed so far

Come on dude!

I will walk back, eat crow, whatever if we make a regional. But recruiting rankings are meaningless if they don?t translate to above the bar performance. We are not good and I do believe part of this is on the university/fans, etc. The very first NC ever, I imagine for many, they kind of breathed a sigh of relief. I get that.

However, why not truly capitalize on it. Go all out and close guys. I just don?t see evidence that our staff are hard working compared to other sports or say UT.

I hope and pray he gets back to being the guy, but I don?t have that confidence currently.
08-04-2023, 10:02 PM
SPMT

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

If only we had evidence before this Portal class Lemo wasn't the guy for the job! Maybe something historically bad, like missing Hoover in back to back years. Dont worry, I'm sure year 6 is the key. You're just short sited and don't know what's best for State baseball

I’m with you. Even more concerned with the culture issue than even the lack of talent compared to top peers. Cohen had some untalented teams perhaps, but being entitled to was not a concern.

When former players say the team: 1. Is entitled and has been the last two years at least and 2. Aren’t talented enough compared to peers, I listen.
08-04-2023, 11:46 PM
Cowbell

Look. We should never. And I mean never. Lose a baseball player to the cult unless it is purely being out-bid. I live not too far from CS and would much rather live in Starkville. Heck even the experts thought he was headed here. This explains why he hasn't announced. He didn't want Hines pissed at him.
Lemonis needs to be shown the door. The way the season went. Followed by the drug out PC search (yes we have forgotten about that already). And then not picking up anyone great out of the portal. There are SEC level pitchers still enrolled in lessor programs that would come here if we knew how to handle business.
08-05-2023, 05:14 AM
Pancho

All we can do now is wait and hope.
08-05-2023, 07:02 AM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by BigDawg81

The 2 transfers that are committed are not going to announce until after Team USA is done playing which is the 14th of July I believe. One assumes it is Montgomery and Holman.

Aged like fine milk
08-05-2023, 08:04 AM
Leeshouldveflanked

A&M recruited Montgomery while he was in High School, MSU didnt. Very poor evaluation more than anything else.
08-05-2023, 08:25 AM
TNDawg35

So do we actually have confirmation that’s where he is going or we all just melting over a visit to A&M? Did y’all think he wasn’t gonna take any visits or anything?
08-05-2023, 10:57 AM
The Federalist Engineer

The "Elite" Recruiter

If you take away the SEC, Dudy Nobel, MSU Tradition of Winning, Canns/Cohen/Henderson 2021 players ....

Seems Lemons is a very marginal recruiter compared to what even Bohanon would haul with Lemonis' advantages. He has a career 10-33 record versus SEC power teams. He is not a peer to Vitello, Van Horn, or Corbin. Probably Van Horne and Vitello consider MSU like near gimme Sweeps, even in Starkville.
08-05-2023, 11:00 AM
Coach34

Be Good or Be Gone in 24
08-05-2023, 11:30 AM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Depends on what we land in the portal. If we get Montgomery he will help in the OF and potentially on the mound as well. As it is we've simply filled our holes for the most part outside of getting an elite Friday night starting pitcher. Of course, we're still working on the portal at this time.

Again- I don't think people really fathom just how bad we were on the mound. So a lot of fans have assumed that our pitchers just suck. It was really an issue of the pitchers being asked to pitch in a way a lot of them could not, leaving pitchers in way too long, and just not developing them as individual players. I'm not sure how we had a winning record- that's probably more of a testament to the talent we actually do have. Our pitching coach was essentially the equivalent of Peter Sirmon as a pitching coach. I think how we handled our staff may have contributed to some of the injuries we've had- not Tommy John- the ones where a guy is out for a couple of weeks here and there.

But if we get Montgomery to go along with Hines and Dakota and then add in a legit Friday night guy we're going to probably see a jump similar to what we saw from 2015 to 2016. And we could probably accomplish that by getting our team ERA on the season down to 5.00 which is not great. If Parker gets us in the 4's we're going to have a very good year. And that's really not a stretch at all.

Todd, we didn't get Montgomery and we didn't get the Friday guy.

What's your updated outlook for next year?
08-05-2023, 11:45 AM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Would be a waste of a scholarship. He's not good. We basically have everything riding on one pitcher. Which honestly, is another recruiting blunder but here we are. Get Holman, nobody cares. If not, woof.

Well said.
08-05-2023, 12:08 PM
The Federalist Engineer

FWIW

Aggies were saying that BMs dad was in CS 2/3 weeks ago and that he was signing then.

Maybe Schloss is signing the Dad and Lemons the Mom.

https://texags.com/forums/8/topics/3386919/0#discussion
08-05-2023, 12:12 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

FWIW

Aggies were saying that BMs dad was in CS 2/3 weeks ago and that he was signing then.

Maybe Schloss is signing the Dad and Lemons the Mom.

https://texags.com/forums/8/topics/3386919/0#discussion

He is full of it, there is no signing for a transfer. They just enroll into the school.
08-05-2023, 12:17 PM
Cowbell

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer

FWIW

Aggies were saying that BMs dad was in CS 2/3 weeks ago and that he was signing then.

Maybe Schloss is signing the Dad and Lemons the Mom.

https://texags.com/forums/8/topics/3386919/0#discussion

Is his dad a preacher ***
08-05-2023, 12:21 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Be Good or Be Gone in 24

"Lemonizick" should have been "good or gone" in 23. Which you agreed with (thus the nickname) till it was clear the AD was going to keep him for '24. Then you became the biggest optimist for next year on the entire board
08-05-2023, 02:12 PM
Pancho

Cohen got us a dud on the diamond
08-05-2023, 05:00 PM
JoseBrown

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Originally Posted by Pancho

Cohen got us a dud on the diamond

That was the oddest coaching search we’ve done, no wonder we got what we did.
08-05-2023, 05:22 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

"Lemonizick" should have been "good or gone" in 23. Which you agreed with (thus the nickname) till it was clear the AD was going to keep him for '24. Then you became the biggest optimist for next year on the entire board

Look- I'm not a Lemon supporter and dont know if he will save his job- but I thought he deserved 1 more shot after winning a title. If he cant get it done with all the talent we have this coming Spring? Fire his ass. If he doesnt turn it around in 24- he 100% is Lemonizik
08-05-2023, 05:56 PM
DEDawg

Montgomery officially gone?
08-05-2023, 06:14 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by Coach34

.... I thought he deserved 1 more shot after winning a title.

I did too except this is how I felt after the 22 season. Improving from 14th in the SEC to 13th this should have gotten him canned 5 minutes after the last out of the season.
08-05-2023, 06:29 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by DEDawg

Montgomery officially gone?

No. Family wants him at State. He has some baseball connections pulling him toward College Station. We shall see.

But if we don’t pull him- it’s a 100% fail by Lemon with his job on the line.
08-05-2023, 08:22 PM
AlSwearengen

Family wants him at State, half his hs team is at State. I think a former hs coach is at A&M in some capacity, if i have my stories straight.

Someone needs to show him the video of schlosneagle complaining about their fans. Lemonis needs all the help he can get recruiting this guy.
08-05-2023, 08:27 PM
State82

Random question. Is this the longest thread in ED history?
08-05-2023, 08:51 PM
DEDawg

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Originally Posted by State82

Random question. Is this the longest thread in ED history?

I think some of the football recruiting ones hit 120 pages
08-05-2023, 08:55 PM
Patrick Tibbons

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Originally Posted by State82

Random question. Is this the longest thread in ED history?

Pretty said there is a 72 page thread about the baseball transfer portal, and State has gained no one of note through said portal.
08-05-2023, 09:18 PM
Cowbell

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Originally Posted by Patrick Tibbons

Pretty said there is a 72 page thread about the baseball transfer portal, and State has gained no one of note through said portal.

This is not false
08-05-2023, 09:25 PM
Leroy Jenkins

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Originally Posted by Patrick Tibbons

Pretty said there is a 72 page thread about the baseball transfer portal, and State has gained no one of note through said portal.

If we had picked up every player in the damn portal the thread would be about 7 pages.
08-05-2023, 09:32 PM
BuckyIsAB****

We are seeing what Moorhead would have looked like if we kept him
08-05-2023, 09:54 PM
TNDawg35

So for us people who just want to know about Montgomery and not read all the whining and bitching,

He is done at the Cape, he went on a visit it A&M. He hasn’t committed anywhere, his family want him at State, his teammates from HS want him at State, he played with Hines all summer, and he has an ex coach at A&M who is playing back channels.

Did I miss anything?
08-05-2023, 10:08 PM
the_real_MSU_is_us

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Originally Posted by TNDawg35

So for us people who just want to know about Montgomery and not read all the whining and bitching,

He is done at the Cape, he went on a visit it A&M. He hasn’t committed anywhere, his family want him at State, his teammates from HS want him at State, he played with Hines all summer, and he has an ex coach at A&M who is playing back channels.

Did I miss anything?

Yes. You missed the fact Montgomery himself doesn't want to come here, or he'd have already commited.

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