Cut that Jovester sh*t out. I thought there were rules about names on this board...

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08-12-2019, 10:41 AM
99jc

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Originally Posted by Coach34

with a team that should have won at least 10

34 is correct on this Moorhead 17'd up last season and if you all are happy he won 8 that's pathetic.
08-12-2019, 10:57 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by 99jc

34 is correct on this Moorhead 17'd up last season and if you all are happy he won 8 that's pathetic.

No he isn't.

We didn't hire him to be a Mullen clone.
08-12-2019, 11:06 AM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by 99jc

34 is correct on this Moorhead 17'd up last season and if you all are happy he won 8 that's pathetic.

Nope. It's not all Moorhead. If Fitz had been able to go through Spring practice and actually take live snaps we probably aren't having this conversation right now.
08-12-2019, 11:10 AM
Dawg61

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

Certain posters are using it in every one of their posts trying to get it to catch on.

Nobody will be calling him Jovester if he exceeds expectations. Mullen averaged 7 wins a season. The bar isn't exactly set at max. If a stupid nickname gives him a little extra fuel. So be it.
08-12-2019, 11:15 AM
BulldogDX55

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

Is there any derogatory nicknames not allowed like Joevester or foam bat? What about Peaches?

Imagine missing the point badly and still wanting to fight about this after what I said.
08-12-2019, 11:17 AM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by Ari Gold

Fitz is gone.
Last year is over .
Dan Mullen is gone. and he better win the east soon or he won?t be in Gainesville in a few years

Enjoy the upcoming season. We have some guys in place this year. We have some NFL talent (probably the most ever called come April) on the field.

Joe is in year 2 . He is getting his kind of guys here. We have some stud juco guys joining the program next year with some talented young kids. The OL and recruiting the OL talent is a huge improvement . We are getting Big time WR prospects to at least give us looks and showing interest. Defense is still recruiting at a SEC high level .

Just keep building the program and winning games...I?m sure the ****s up in Oxford would kill for what we have right now in football .. so ****ing enjoy it

Agree, tired of same threads. Everyone knows strengths and weaknesses of Fitz and Mullen, moving on.

Program is killing it for past 5 years. Next up.
08-12-2019, 11:22 AM
Lord McBuckethead

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Agree, tired of same threads. Everyone knows strengths and weaknesses of Fitz and Mullen, moving on.

Program is killing it for past 5 years. Next up.

Agreed. Not a fan of the nickname. Why not call him "The People's Eyebrow". At least it isn't derogatory.
08-12-2019, 11:23 AM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by Coach007

That's at UF. Sorry, but they have a stronger history in their program.

Right now he has the #13 class. All 4*s. Last year he had a top 10 class with 17 4*s. Those 2 years combined, he had 27 4* players....... added to what he walked into:

2018- 13 4*s
2017- 11 4*s
2016- 9 4*s
2015- 2 5*s and 2 4*s

That's pretty much 2 times the amount we were getting with him here. And I'm a fan of Mullen and you know from my post thought it was crazy to be calling for him to be gone.

BTW, fans at UF are already complaining about his recruiting and MS ST would kill for those types of numbers.

And there is the one thing many fans don't get with Mullen. He has proven to have a good eye for talent; it ain't about the recruiting stars as Mullen proved at MSU year after year. Florida fans will forget about recruiting if he wins in the fall just like MSU fans did. Yes it adds offseason stress on fanbase but it worked for him. Not saying I like his approach all the time either but hard to complain about the results.
08-12-2019, 11:24 AM
Coldsleeve Jr.

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Originally Posted by Coach007

No he isn't.

We didn't hire him to be a Mullen clone.

Correct. We hired him to fit his offense to our personnel.

He didn't do that either
08-12-2019, 11:39 AM
Coach007

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Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.

Correct. We hired him to fit his offense to our personnel.

He didn't do that either

No.. we hired him because he is a proven winner and a great offensive mind. He put in his offense and Fitz struggled in it as a passer. Nothing more, nothing less
08-12-2019, 11:40 AM
Pollodawg

The only thing Moorhead failed at last year that Mullen wouldn’t have was masking the fact that his QB couldn’t, and never had been able to, hit water falling out a boat.

Last year was an average DM year. Deal with it.
08-12-2019, 11:59 AM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by R2Dawg

And there is the one thing many fans don't get with Mullen. He has proven to have a good eye for talent; it ain't about the recruiting stars as Mullen proved at MSU year after year. Florida fans will forget about recruiting if he wins in the fall just like MSU fans did. Yes it adds offseason stress on fanbase but it worked for him. Not saying I like his approach all the time either but hard to complain about the results.

UF expects to go toe to toe with Bama, we actually did that 1 time in 9 years and it required Bama to be on their 2nd and 3rd string LBs. Even in 2014, we were down 12 with less than a minute to go.
08-12-2019, 01:46 PM
sandwolf

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Originally Posted by MetEdDawg

My question is why do you and others like you keep trying to qualify everything about Joe in the negative? Well other teams did this. Well it can't be a fluke win. Everything is qualified. Can't ever just look at us and say "of course we stunk on offense but there were things that players did that cost us games that might have been out of Joe's hands."

You just 'qualified' the shitty offense in a way to where it shielded Moorhead from blame. That is the exact reason that you see people qualifying things to the negative.....it's to balance out the excuses that people like you keep making for Moorhead.
08-12-2019, 01:46 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Tbonewannabe

UF expects to go toe to toe with Bama, we actually did that 1 time in 9 years and it required Bama to be on their 2nd and 3rd string LBs. Even in 2014, we were down 12 with less than a minute to go.

We were also down 6 with fourteen minutes to go and put them in third and long three times in one series and could not get off the field. I don?t think we punted the entire second half.
08-12-2019, 02:49 PM
Maroonthirteen

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Originally Posted by 99jc

34 is correct on this Moorhead 17'd up last season and if you all are happy he won 8 that's pathetic.

Jackie f’d up 1991 with a 7-5 record too. We lost Memphis State and Fn Air Force. We should have been 9-3.
08-12-2019, 03:04 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

I?ll never forget talking to the HS head coach that played at MSU. He told me he would never allow one of his players to go to State as long as Mullins was at State. I didn?t understand at the time, but as we continued to suck at recruiting I started understanding.

That's a stupid move by a coach.
08-12-2019, 03:06 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

That's a stupid move by a coach.

Not to mention extremely arrogant... "I'll decide where these kids go"
08-12-2019, 03:46 PM
bulldawg28

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Not to mention extremely arrogant... "I'll decide where these kids go"

Exactly.
08-12-2019, 03:47 PM
Liverpooldawg

I said 8 wins going in last year. We knew the D was loaded and we also knew what we had at QB and WR. Anyone that expected 10 wins last year was delusional. Mullen wouldn't have won 10 either.
08-12-2019, 04:20 PM
Dawg2003

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Originally Posted by Coldsleeve Jr.

Correct. We hired him to fit his offense to our personnel.

He didn't do that either

Unless he could perform magic, he was never gonna be able to fit Fitz to our offense. He might have thought he could in the beginning, but he soon realized he couldn't.
08-12-2019, 04:26 PM
Bdaski

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Originally Posted by Coach007

Yeah.. we know you could have done better.... which Is why I encourage you to apply for the job.

I'm thinking Joe's 1st coaching staff he hired didn't work out like he was hoping it would. Plus, I don't think he realized Fitz was as poor of passer as he turned out to be. All of that had to play a part in cutting back on his offense a bunch. By doing that it took a lot of explosion out of our offensive game, which put more on the defense then you would want. Our defense was able to hold its end and more. I think we will see a difference in the offense this season. I'm willing to see if it plays out that way.
08-12-2019, 09:41 PM
BiscuitEater

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Originally Posted by msstate7

One of the world's great mysteries is how Mullen sucked so bad at recruiting, yet ended up with 3 1st rounders last season and a bunch more drafted players coming this year.

Mullen had ZERO '1st rounders' last season!

No Gators were selected in the opening round of the draft for the first time since 2012. Offensive tackle Jawaan Taylor, who was projected as a top-15 pick entering the round, has slid to Day 2 over apparent concerns about an offseason knee injury.
08-12-2019, 10:12 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

That's a stupid move by a coach.

Oh I agree. It pissed me off at the time. It?s just an example of one HS coach hating Mullen. I?ve heard there were many.
08-12-2019, 10:15 PM
BuckyIsAB****

Todd Grantham blitzed 8 guys against Fitzgerald on 4th down against us Fitz had no clue it was coming. If he does its a game ending TD and Grantham is probably fired for that call. Thats how bad Fitzgerald was mentally at that point in the year. They didnt even cover our slot and nobody could have tackled him if he gets the ball.

I love Fitz to death, he was an absolute warrior and he deserves respect for that. But he was not a QB for this system at all
08-12-2019, 10:19 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

Mullen had ZERO '1st rounders' last season!

No Gators were selected in the opening round of the draft for the first time since 2012. Offensive tackle Jawaan Taylor, who was projected as a top-15 pick entering the round, has slid to Day 2 over apparent concerns about an offseason knee injury.

He was talking the players recruited to us while Mullen was our coach. He didn’t recruit any of those Florida players that were draft eligible
08-12-2019, 10:21 PM
Cooterpoot

Who are those ?bunch more? being drafted this year? I don?t see many. Almost all our top draft picks are Juco guys too.
08-12-2019, 10:25 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Who are those “bunch more” being drafted this year? I don’t see many.

Dantzler, Williams, Thompson, rivers
Maybes: gay, hill, autry, Cole
08-12-2019, 10:37 PM
Cooterpoot

Thompson isn’t leaving IMO. Neither is Gay. Hill would have to have a big year too.
Cole is a wait and see. Rivers and Williams are picks. Dantzler too barring injury.
Autry late maybe. But only a couple will go very high.
08-12-2019, 10:43 PM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Thompson isn’t leaving IMO. Neither is Gay. Hill would have to have a big year too.
Cole is a wait and see. Rivers and Williams are picks. Dantzler too barring injury.
Autry late maybe. But only a couple will go very high.

Basically then the only one you disagreed with me on is thompson. He's rated in the top 5 draftable ILBs by Phil Steele and Walterfootball. Obviously this doesn't mean he's a lock, but it certainly shows he's on the radar.
08-12-2019, 10:49 PM
Cooterpoot

He’s not a top 5 LB pick IMO. But we’ll see. I just don’t see a bunch of picks unless a lot goes right.
08-12-2019, 11:26 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Confucius, forgive him... he has no idea you're nowhere close to anti-Moorhead. I think he's a little slow. Just pray for him

No joke. I?m as pro joe as anybody on here. Just happen to also think dan did one hell of a job here.
08-13-2019, 03:38 AM
BiscuitEater

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

He was talking the players recruited to us while Mullen was our coach.

So, if Mullet deserves credit for 3 #1 defensive draftees, he also gets credit for an 8-5 (4-4) record, right?

Can't get credit for one and not the other.
08-13-2019, 06:16 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

So, if Mullet deserves credit for 3 #1 defensive draftees, he also gets credit for an 8-5 (4-4) record, right?

Can't get credit for one and not the other.

This is strange logic. Poster earlier said Mullen is a terrible recruiter, and I said there were 3 1st rounders on this team that Mullen recruited and signed. Are you disputing that Mullen recruited sweat, Simmons, and Abram or are you saying that none of them were talented until Moorhead got here?
08-13-2019, 07:20 AM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

So, if Mullet deserves credit for 3 #1 defensive draftees, he also gets credit for an 8-5 (4-4) record, right?

Can't get credit for one and not the other.

Actually, concerning players drafted that he actually recruited he definitely gets credit for that. You are trying to blend two totally different things to make an argument because you got called out. He definitely can get credit for one, the players we signed while he was here that were just drafted and not the record last season since he wasn’t coaching this team.
08-13-2019, 07:35 AM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by BiscuitEater

Mullen had ZERO '1st rounders' last season!

No Gators were selected in the opening round of the draft for the first time since 2012. Offensive tackle Jawaan Taylor, who was projected as a top-15 pick entering the round, has slid to Day 2 over apparent concerns about an offseason knee injury.

Also the DE slid from the projected 1st round to the 4th round over his NFL combine interviews. I don't really blame Mullen for either of those guys slides. He wasn't there long enough to do anything about that guy and an injury can happen. Simmons should have been a top 5-10 pick if not for his injury.
08-13-2019, 07:39 AM
Tbonewannabe

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Originally Posted by msstate7

This is strange logic. Poster earlier said Mullen is a terrible recruiter, and I said there were 3 1st rounders on this team that Mullen recruited and signed. Are you disputing that Mullen recruited sweat, Simmons, and Abram or are you saying that none of them were talented until Moorhead got here?

The only one of those guys really highly recruited was Simmons. Mullen's staff did a great job getting him along with Sweat and Abram. There was just some positions that Mullen sucked at recruiting.
08-13-2019, 08:01 AM
MedDawg

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Originally Posted by bobcat91

Not his fault we were 2 dropped passes away from a 10 win season. He had a few head scratchers but was set up for a top 10 season.

Everyone talks about Moorhead wasting a team that held opponents to 12 TD's. Counting the bowl game, it was 15, which was still excellent.

However, State's defense gave up 4 TD's to Kentucky and 3 to Iowa. So while the defense was excellent as a whole last season, they didn't help us vs Kentucky or Iowa.

We scored 22 points vs Iowa, which should have been enough. We had 342 yards vs Iowa, which should have been enough.

We actually finished the second half of the season well on offense, except for Alabama.
08-13-2019, 08:11 AM
msstate7

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Originally Posted by MedDawg

Everyone talks about Moorhead wasting a team that held opponents to 12 TD's. Counting the bowl game, it was 15, which was still excellent.

However, State's defense gave up 4 TD's to Kentucky and 3 to Iowa. So while the defense was excellent as a whole last season, they didn't help us vs Kentucky or Iowa.

We scored 22 points vs Iowa, which should have been enough. We had 342 yards vs Iowa, which should have been enough.

We actually finished the second half of the season well on offense, except for Alabama.

Vs Kentucky, at the 9:43 left, Kentucky had 203 total yards. It was 14-7, and the defense got our offense the ball at the Kentucky 47.

Iowa had a 13-yard td drive and a 33-yard td drive.

Blaming the defense for those losses is questionable at best
08-13-2019, 08:14 AM
StateDawg44

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Vs Kentucky, at the 9:43 left, Kentucky had 203 total yards. It was 14-7, and the defense got our offense the ball at the Kentucky 47.

Iowa had a 13-yard td drive and a 33-yard td drive.

Blaming the defense for those losses is questionable at best

UK was definitely a group effort and group loss. All the way across the board and even up to the coaches. There were a ton of penalties on D and offense seemed rattled from the get-go.

I'm not one to blame the coaches for the overall finish of last year at all. That game we seemed lost and had no answers for anything.
08-13-2019, 08:17 AM
Homedawg

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Originally Posted by MedDawg

Everyone talks about Moorhead wasting a team that held opponents to 12 TD's. Counting the bowl game, it was 15, which was still excellent.

However, State's defense gave up 4 TD's to Kentucky and 3 to Iowa. So while the defense was excellent as a whole last season, they didn't help us vs Kentucky or Iowa.

We scored 22 points vs Iowa, which should have been enough. We had 342 yards vs Iowa, which should have been enough.

We actually finished the second half of the season well on offense, except for Alabama.

342 yards?? Hahahah. It's pretty bad when you say that's enough. But based on The other 4 shit shows, yeah I guess it was....

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