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It definitely was a factor in his decision to move on, no question about it. Finishing in the cellar of the SEC two out of three years would have not been good for his long term prospects. I think he knew what this team was going to be after the first 4 Tommy John injuries. Obviously, not his fault though and most reasonable fans would have been happy to give him another year ("most" being the key word).Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I really would like to see state baseball get to a more consistent level. I think we have all the resources to and I think Cann can do the job.
18 total K's. Peterson had 17 on his own.
This team has more issues than TJ victims. We really only have 1 legitimate middle of the order bat in rooker. We have some guys that can hit, but no real strike fear in opposing teams like we should haveQuote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
From what I've seen so far we have to find a way to recognize strikes at the plate. Players are going to have bad AB's and go through slumps - that's life. But as a team we have swung at a tremendous amount of balls in the dirt. We need to work on better strike zone recognition before SEC play or we're going to have more games like this.
Oh I totally agree. But, good pitching can overcome a lack of bats in many cases (look at our 2012 team for instance). We had the opportunity to have a big time staff but lost probably our 4 best arms over the summer, then probably 2 of the top 3 or 4 we had left early this season. Really just never had a chance from about August of 2016 onwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We've been scoring 8 runs a game. Maybe this pitcher just had really good stuff.
Definitely devastating to our pitching staff. We can't wait on them to heal either so we'll most likely have to bring in new faces to replace them. Those new guys will need time to adjust, so I don't think this is a 1 year fix for our staff unless practically everyone of our currents pan outQuote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
2-0 is called acripple pitch. If you are going to get a pitch to hit it is usually on 2-0. But it doesn't mean you swing at ball 3Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Maybe. Fresno and uc Irvine roughed him up though... his era was 8.10 entering tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
Good lord people. I didn't even read but page 5 and you people are freaking nuts. Yes, I'm sure Cohen knew this would be a down year. Im also sure he was recruiting very well. I'm also sure he didn't count on 4 tj's which turned into 6. I'm also sure canny is going to be fine. I'm positive. So for the love of all the stupid will James bullshit just stop. Stop. We will be back. And quick. I told you this year was going to be a struggle. Deal with it.
Normally I'd agree, but Peterson made Alexander look like me facing Clayton Keyshaw tonight. Alexander wasn't making contact if they gave him 8 strikesQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
But all other times He was behind in the count. This was the only at bat he had the pitcher in the hole. Swinging on 2-0 is a good way to help a batter that has been struggling making contact.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
He didn't touch the ball with a 2-0 count eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by tcdog70
I just think we should be a more consistent program. Bianco has missed a regional 2 times in 16 years. We're gonna miss one 2 of the last 3Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
I don't think anyone is really jumping off a cliff, blaming Cohen, or blaming Cannizaro. This team just isn't very good and it isn't really anyone's fault (except for maybe partially Wes Johnson's....). But mostly it appears to be bad luck. Calling a spade a spade and saying there were warning signs of a down year coming as early as last August does not equate to bitching. I think it serves as a healthy reality check to the "regional every year....no excuses" crowd that sometimes shit happens and it doesn't mean our coaches or players suck at what they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Homedawg
Fire Hevesy
Apparently ashcraft is the Sunday guy since cyr pitched tonight. I like this move. I don't think ashcraft is gonna be that good this year, but I like him getting experience. I do think he will be good next season assuming we can keep his elbow in tact
Looks like we may have longer than normal to talk about everyone's favorite coach this yearQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Rep givenQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Bingo. 'Nuff said.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I agreeQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah but I think 2015 was a hell of a lot more inexcusable than this season. Still no idea what went wrong with that squad. We just lost too many draftees and had too many early and preseason injuries (along with an all new coaching staff) to be able to reasonably expect much in 2017. You can't just ignore all that stuff in the name of what you think we should be because of the name on the jersey. Vanderbilt, LSU, or any other major baseball power would be going through the same funk as us right now if subjected to the same circumstances.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
The guy they threw tonight pitched for the U.S. National team this summer and is probably a top five round pick. It sucks he figured things out tonight. This was the same guy that walked a ton of our guys last year in the Sunday game.
Let's see how we do the rest of the series and in SEC play before we worry about missing a regional.
I don't have vandy and lsu expectations. I expect to make a regional every year, a super regional every 2-3 years, and be in the CWS every 4-5 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
It was a combination of things. We mismanaged the pitching staff and got caught in the baseball change without having a chance to adapt. Given a chance to adapt our roster and we all saw what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
Blaylock has struck out 13 times in 27 abs .... Pool has struck out 12 of 30....McNamee deserves a shot, let's see if he can make contact.
Gordon has struck out 11 out of 24 ABs.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Coming into tonight, we have struck out 72 times out of 319 times (22.6%) vs very poor pitching. We struck out 18 times tonight... contact is gonna be an issue this season
It doesn't matter what your expectations are. The point is Vandy and LSU are two programs that have both been considerably more successful than we have over the past decade (and in LSU's case more like the past 2 decades) and have built themselves into college baseball super powers. Whether anyone who still thinks its 1985 wants to admit it or not, they are both solidly above us in the pecking order right now in terms of the talent they have been able to bring in and overall program stature. And even they would be having the same struggles with what we have been dealing with in terms of injuries and turnover in the roster and coaching staff. Its not the end of the world if we tank this year, as a lot of really unusual circumstances have had to align perfectly for this current shit storm to ensue. I'll start judging Cannizaro and this staff in 2018, but not before then unless we somehow do make a regional this year. If that happens, we need to take the current highest salary for a college baseball coach, double it, then write him a check.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
You sir knocked it out of the park! Competition changed everything, I'm thinking Cannizaro will be really good one day, he wasn't dealt the best cards to start off with. Polk II really hurt us, we are still playing catch up.Quote:
Originally Posted by HSVDawg
Not only missing a regional 2 out of the last 3 years, I'm concerned we will end up with a losing record 2 out of the last 3 years. Out of 10 games so far this year we already have 3 losses to teams that are mediocre to bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
KP pitched just as well last night. Let's hit the brakes here. The season is young and this team has the tools to be a good team.
Wow, do something different at the plate bro. That's ****ing garbageQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Yeah, Gordon should only see the plate against midweek opponents until he figures shit out. He's awful at the plate. SEC baseball is not for lumberjacks that just want to swing out of their shoes every pitch, and have no clue what an approach is
That being said...sometimes you just have it as a pitcher some nights. Nights where even your mistake pitches end up in a good spot. Their guy had one last night, and we still only lost by one. Our young guys will learn from it. I still think we will win 1 up there, with a good chance at winning both remaining games
We pinch hit him in the 9th in favor of another lefty that's had huge hits for us in his career. Another move that I just don't understandQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
Ready to see plumlee vs his best completion so far this year. I like us today. I don't like us tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg
We've now struck out 90 times in 353 ABs... 25.5%. We have to start making contact. We haven't even began sec play, so you know that number will most likely go up. Last year, we struck out 378 times in 2,216 ABs... 17.1%
ETA... I know you need PAs to get true strike out rate, but thebaseballcube.com doesn't have it for some reason. Rather than add sacrifices and BBs, I'll just give you the k to bb ratio for this year and last:
'17 -- 39 BBs to 90 Ks = 0.4333
'16 -- 235 BBs to 378 Ks = 0.6217
Stolen from Joe Mayo on sps...
"Poole's last 4 games...
0-14 with 8 strikeouts..."
The rest was just bashing, so I edited it out. Poole is obviously struggling though and it's probably time to try someone else
First base is a real problem right now. Gordon has been awful but Brown is only hitting .200 himself. Just a huge dropoff there from having Lowe last year. Not sure what other options we have if Rooker is going to stay in the OF.Quote:
Originally Posted by CadaverDawg