I agree. I think he would do great at either place.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
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I agree. I think he would do great at either place.Quote:
Originally Posted by 99jc
A couple of things and I guess both are LSU related.
I'm confused as to why Tennessee is all of a sudden putting Heupel on the hot seat? He's 43-18 in his career there and after his first year he has been a 9-10 game winner every year. And has a pretty good chance of winning 9-10 games again this year. I know they're a blueblood but after Fulmer they have been wondering in the wilderness until they got Heupel. Kind of makes me wonder if there is something going on behind the scenes there with Gruden trying to get the Tennessee job? I know that's a conspiracy theory but I just can't think of anything else that makes sense. Why would they think a guy like Alex Golesh would be a significant upgrade?
If Heupel lands in LSU's lap after all of this- that's a HUGE win for them.
Speaking of LSU, I noticed today that they immediately have hired a President and a Chancellor which pretty much takes Landry out of the equation. And I'm sure they'll have an AD in place soon. Pretty much the polar opposite of how MSU reacted after Leach passed away.
Very good points. LSU is getting their ducks in a row. And the Huepel stuff is crazy is TN is actually not happy with him. He's been fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Here's the thing about baseball. We have some guys that played baseball at MSU or were part of MSU that have become highly successful in the game and they have gotten paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
Of course those types are going to give to MSU baseball. There's a direct connection there. And MSU is a part of the reason for their success.
Some of them donate to other sports at MSU as well.
On top of that, as we have discussed before the stadium will be paid off and the licenses for the seats are about to be redone in the near future. Once that happens, it's even more money for baseball and MSU athletics.
Sumrall is realizing that his ceiling is a lot higher than Kentucky. If Kentucky fires Stoops they're going to end up with some coordinator if I had to guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Kelly won games there so they're going to have to try to find someone that can elevate what he did. But firing Kelly makes sense. He was weird fit and they were losing games that they shouldn't have.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
So, LSU knows that they have to get it right or they're going to look like clowns. And the first order of business was shutting up Landry.
Answer to your question about TN - is those people are and always have been batshit crazy. Yes, they claim 6 Nattys (but only 1 since integration)- but in their minds they are Alabama's equal or superior. I have friend who is a former D1 HC who went to TN in the 90s as a position coach. He swears they have the most insane fans of any school in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
LSU has been working on the Chancellor and President thing for quite some time - it's not like they started looking last week when all this came down. Maybe that's not what you meant but I took it as such.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Several online betting sites have Sumrall as the favorite to get the Auburn job. He would be a fool to leave Auburn for Kentucky. If he can get the school and the boosters on the same page with him Auburn could come back quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
They won’t be. They haven’t been on the same page for about 4 coaches now.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
any school that fires or pushes out a guy that was in the playoff last season deserves what they getQuote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
Auburn fired the GusBus thinking they deserved better and they got exactly what they deserved
Agree, TN fan gonna TN Fan and think they deserve better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Not that I like or agree with Joel Klatt, but did you guys see his recent interview on a show talking about Heupel? Said he is running a Big 12 offense, without giving his defense a break in games.
I actually don't see UK or Auburn being desirable jobs at the moment. UK has all but said their NIL is going to basketball. Auburn is just a hot mess all around with Cohen as AD and I don't see the AU boosters getting on the same page any time soon. At the same time, I am not sold on Sumrall being that great of a coach. He won at Troy but so did other coaches like Neal Brown who did not pan out. He is now winning at Tulane with Willie Fritz's players. I need to see a bit more out of him. I think Golesh would be a better hire than Sumrall for either program.
I do not consider Tennessee a blue blood. I would put them 6th or 7th in SEC. Probably right there with Auburn and I do not consider Auburn a blue blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Only 6 teams have won the SEC/National Title in the last 60 yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by MoreCowbell
Bama
Auburn
LSU
Georgia
Fla
Tenn
Those are the Bluebloods of the SEC
A few of names I've been told to watch regarding certain jobs:
LSU: Heupel has a ton of noise right now. But I've also heard Lincoln Riley's name be tossed around on the periphery of things.
Auburn: Kenny Dillingham is the dark horse and has some fans among some prominent boosters. I also keep hearing Brent Key's name come up. If they were to go 11-3 and miss out on the playoffs I've been told he'd be open to make a move.
Arkansas-Alex Golesh has some steam right now along with Ryan Silverfield. I keep waiting for Drinkwitz to be mentioned.
Florida- They've pushed their chips to the middle and are all in on Kiffin. I think they could still get Drink if Kiffin backfired on them.
I remember when Heupel was at Missou and an Elite Dawg said he was a good coach and some Expert said something mean to the smart suggestion.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Everybody here was a Joe Morehead groupie back then.
It was crazy how our fans and the media fell for Moorhead. At first I was hoping it was a nightmare when we hired him and then sports writers saying it was a good hire was one of the most baffling things in sports. He was clearly a fraud if you just knew a little bit about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
From what I've heard on some podcasts Drink would take the Florida job immediately if offered, but they want Kiffin to tell them no a dozen times before they offer it to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
And some boosters at Tennessee have royally pissed off Heupel. He saved their program from Coach Asparagus and they are treating him like a failure.
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Nothing beats a new Hog hire, as in watching the coach and his family awkwardly call the hogs at a podium.
No a new A&M hire will always beat that. Watching them join a cult never gets old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Santiago
winner winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
If Elko winds up at Penn State that's why.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
That would be the only reason to leave. A&M has a war chest and looks to have finally gotten out of the way and let the coach do the coaching and recruiting and they just cut the checks. It took Texas a while to figure this out, but they finally did as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Strong rumor out of Arkansas.
Ryan Silverfield will be the next head coach of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
Blue blood of the SEC sure, though their championship was the furthest back. They have been more bad than good since then. Also there are 8 teams, Texas and Oklahoma are above them. Thought he meant college football blue blood.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I've heard James Franklin this morning. That would be an INCREDIBLE pull for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
he was clearly a fraud once you heard him speak about football. of all the things cohen did as AD the single most absolutely dumbest was being fooled by JoMo. there is not a single thing on this earth that would lead me to believe that any halfway competent human being should have been gullible enough to fall for his shtick and think he could run a p5 program...much less one in the SEC.Quote:
Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG
There was an Arkansas podcaster saying keep an eye on James Franklin last night but I'm taking that one with a truck load of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Joe is a snake oil salesman. He has yet to have a winning season at Akron. He can't even beat teams in his own conference. Cohen fell for it hook, line and sinker.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
It's more real than you think. The DFW Arkansas guys were a little butthurt last weekend because: A) They blew a 14 pt lead on their home field and B) Lashlee signed the SMU extension and got an updet win over Miami. But to their credit, they dusted themselves off Sunday morning and got on the phone and started making calls to John Tyson, the Hunts, Yurachek, etc. and started really upping things from a salary and NIL perspective.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
When a HC tells his assistant coaches "I'm not gonna run that shit I dont care how many games we lose" it shows he is clearly not the guy for the job because he refuses to adapt to the talent that he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by shoeless joe
That's crazy. That would be a good get for the Hogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I will to this day never understand how Hud convinced him to run that spread option, speed sweep hybrid type offense we ran against Auburn in 18. I mean it confirmed fact that Hud walked into his office and said he'd quit if we didn't. But Joe never really cared what his assistants thought honestly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
There's rumors that there's WalMart money involved this time. I have no clue to the validity of that one because the last time I talked to anyone that would know about that stuff, the Walton's and any of their family members don't really donate to Arkansas outside of the Business School. Mr. Sam was a massive Razorback fan, but the rest of the kids and grandkids really don't give a rip about it tbhQuote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Huff and Hud put together those game plans for Joe against AU and A&M. They delivered to him two victories on a silver platter. He still bitched about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
That's up there with Croom chewing out Wes Carrol for audibling out of a run play to a pass play, getting the wide open TD and winning the game. Croom told him you run the play called, don't change it. Wes saw the defense had loaded the box and was man coverage.
They had been trying to get him to do more of it in previous weeks and it came to a head after the Fla loss. When it worked for Auburn and made Jovester look bad- thats when he declared running his shit was more important than winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I still remember our team almost being late to the 08 game at La Tech because Croom's lazy ass didn't want to leave. We already were leaving a day late because he'd changed the plan and wanted to leave day of the game. Our players thought they were going to have to board the flight in everything but shoulder pads and helmets. As many good memories as he gave us in 07, he wiped them all away in 08 with his laziness and just thinking he had it made.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
An arkansas person mentioned their next AD might be someone with connections to the Stephens family to maybe get that money also. But I have no info really on Arkansas folk.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
no doubtQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
but my point is that it damn sure didn't take til then to know it. as soon as he got behind the podium and started talking at his opening presser i was like "oh s__t"!
you should know as much as anyone that in order to lead any group or a team...much less 18-24 yr old young men...you must project confidence, knowledge, and inspire. and i'm not talking about fake projection, you have to really give off those inherent traits. and no one can spot a fake faster than a group of young people on a sports team. i've witnessed it so many times where the exact same words from two different individuals have vastly different effects on a team. the players must have confidence and belief that their leader is competent and can back up what they are trying to say. i just find it hard to believe that anyone and i mean ANYONE that has been in the coaching realm of the sports world couldn't spot the phoniness in JoMo from second 1.