Imagine thinking we are just taking kids to fill spots less than a week after the spring game. Imagine being that idiotic. I wanna laugh at this foolishness but it's actually too damn sad to even muster up a giggle.
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Imagine thinking we are just taking kids to fill spots less than a week after the spring game. Imagine being that idiotic. I wanna laugh at this foolishness but it's actually too damn sad to even muster up a giggle.
But see that's the problem. The talking points that the media went with was that this staff was going to immediately come in and "lock down the state" because of all their recruiting connections. That was completely false and you could see it from a mile away. These guys were pushed by boosters and Brad Peterson. It's that simple. Doesn't mean their bad coaches or bad recruiters. They're not great recruiters right now, but they may be ok in time. I'm not going to judge position groups in a spring game, although they were underwhelming. The issue that most people, including myself, had was that we knew the reason this staff was hired and it wasn't what was fed to the fanbase. Just have a tad bit of honesty with things. Say we hired Will Friend because he's from Philadelphia and is career line coach in this league who's been on some good staffs. Ala Matt Luke. Just say we hired Chad Bumphis because he played here. If he was just another WR coach at Utah we wouldn't have given him a second look. Now David Turner actually has recruited good players in this state before, a couple of great players. But his best days as a position coach are well behind him. And David will keep us in the game with Beavers and Franklin. Not saying we'll get them, but he'll be able to stay around til the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
He was the WRs coach for a team that was 85th and 50th in passing the past two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigdawg
Well and thanks to Dan and John we kept him hidden for as long as we did. We convinced him not to camp at multiple places that summer. I'm still not sure how they did that, but they pulled it off. If it wasn't for the MS/AL and the Under Armour AA game no one would've known about Chris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
No s*** Sherlock. You really went out on a limb there. But you don't keep a staff for a recruiting class. Arnett didn't want to run the Pure Air Raid, which no one does, and so he moved on. He's the one making millions a year and it will be his ass we fire if his way fails. Now as I've now told you no less than 100 times in two months either get on board or get off the message boards and go support your best friend Steve Spurrier Jr at Tulsa.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I thought we were under way building a national brand. I travel and always have something MSU related on. For the past 3 years, I had more people talk MSU Football than ever. I also felt like our skill positions were always picking up. I never had a concern with quality WRs, RB, and QBs.
It feels like somebody said, "we are going to focus on local talent and have to develop them" and we reversed our plan. Like I said, It's a wait an see.
What did the passing game look like there? I know what I saw in the spring game was not great route running and catching. And here it is in a nut shell. Those guys are not freshmen. they are are vets.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1bigdawg
Not being an arse, but.......
This time last year we had 3 commits who actually have now signed -
Malik Ellis (3 star); Ty Jones (3 Star), and Joseph Head (3 Star)
Y'all act like we've spent the past decade loading up on early 4 & 5 star recruits. We are exactly where we normally are this time of year. We will likely pick up 3-4 more over the next few weeks, then Summer camps start the flurry of commits.
But, I guess like clock work we have to freak out about something.
It?s very clear to me. They hired a bunch of coaches from teams with crappy passing offenses.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg
I am not saying Arnett is not the right man for the job, but I still do not like the way the search went. I felt as though we should have hired an AD prior to making a head football coaching hire. Maybe Selmon would have thought Arnett was best, but I wish the Selmon hiring would have happened before the Arnett hiring. Arnett seems to have a mindset that fits Mississippi State though and that is important. His experience is the biggest concern and his ability to manage a SEC offense. These next few years will definitely be interesting to see how it plays out.
Yeah. I know. No other Leach protege has had success with their own version of Mike?s Air Raid. I mean Sonny Dykes, Dana Holgorsen, Lincoln Riley, Kliff Kingsbury, Sonny Cumbie, Seth Littrell, Graham Harrell?..I just don?t see why anyone would want to hire a former Leach offensive assistant to implement the Air Raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
What does that even mean in the scheme of things?Quote:
Arnett seems to have a mindset that fits Mississippi State though and that is important.
This thread is sad and predictable... The air raid holdouts bitching and complaining like they've done on every football thread since Barbay was announced. Now they start the threads so they can whine. How bout this, we know how you feel KB, Todd and Black Sails... your points have been noted. Now get onboard or STFU. And this is coming from a huge Leach fan.
Well said as usual. But it's only 3 or 4 air-raid babies that are freaking out.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
Kliff has been fired everywhere he's ever been. Sonny Cumbie just became a HC LAST year. Littrell was just fired. Harrell has never been a HC. And I love Dana and Sonny but Sonny was fired at Cal and got beat 65-7 by the same UGA team we only got beat by 26 by.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Lincoln and Art Briles are the only ones "The Air Raid" has worked for and their best teams run it 60/40. They're nothing like Leach. Hell Dana runs it more than that.
Has there ever been a year when folks weren't concerned about recruiting? I can't remember one and we always wind up with the same #20-30 ranked class. Hey at least we're consistent. The same stories, same rumors and same concerns are voiced on here every year, we could just put them on replay and it'd be the same. I used to get worked up about recruiting but I've passed that stage. Would I like us to have a top 5 class every year? You bet! But I'm also a realist. Zach is not gonna be outworked and we're going to be ok
You are one of the few rational minds left on here. Great post as usual, Bruns!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg
And they were 46th in yards per attempt, we were 111th. They were 17th in TD's passing while throwing it nearly 200 less times than we did. What was their passing efficiency ratings, since you like advanced stats as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
So I don't think it's the fact we only have 3 or 4 commits and if the guys we had committed were in state guys I think people would have a little more patience. But the last two commits have been OOS projects. Combine that with this being one of the best in state classes in years and making no head way in it I understand the frustration.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrunswickDawg