2016 MSU Football Recruiting Thread

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Originally Posted by Dawg-gone-dawgs

There is a ridiculous rumor in a thread on SPS about Simmons. Look for yourself. I won't repeat it on here because it is so ridiculous

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Haha. Ridiculous.

We've officially reached silly season.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Steve did not bash AJ. He just feels Bama has a strong lead.

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++ I agree with this post. You few Steve haters aren't doing MSU any good with your crap. IMO Steve's credibility is good with most posters on the 3 main MSU boards

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

But I just wonder what he is basing this on? I almost feel like Steve is extrapolating that a cold shoulder to him by AJ equals a cold shoulder to MSU. Its obvious after the Brandon Bryant incident that Steve doesn't have close sources on the coaching staff. I really have no clue what Steve is basing his assessment on about where AJ is leaning. I mean to say AJ is 80-85% going to Bama it would seem you would need someone close to the situation to dole out numbers like that but I don't see that Steve has any. Almost appears like he is going off of gut feel.

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I am sure that I have read everything Steve has posted and I have NOT seen any number like 80-85 % anywhere. It may have been discussed in chat, but I have not read this. Anyone else to help either me or Mr. maroonmania out on this? Even Paul has only been 50-50. That's far from being confident in my mind.

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Originally Posted by the59dawg

++ I agree with this post. You few Steve haters aren't doing MSU any good with your crap. IMO Steve's credibility is good with most posters on the 3 main MSU boards

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See here is two recent issues many have with helping MSU and it concerns Gene's pages. Devinner and Brandon Bryant. At times when it comes down to helping the school and reporting responsibility vs themselves, they choose themselves. How times has he leaked info on a kid that had asked to withhold the info? Things like that hurts us much more than what is posted here. I don't bash Steve like many others. Actually talk with him from time to time. But he has done some questionable things that Paul would never even consider doing.

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Originally Posted by the59dawg

++ I agree with this post. You few Steve haters aren't doing MSU any good with your crap. IMO Steve's credibility is good with most posters on the 3 main MSU boards

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Short memory. And no. Steve generally has one good class that he's in tune with followed by one that he's wrong as much as he is right. And he was right last year.

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

See here is two recent issues many have with helping MSU and it concerns Gene's pages. Devinner and Brandon Bryant. At times when it comes down to helping the school and reporting responsibility vs themselves, they choose themselves. How times has he leaked info on a kid that had asked to withhold the info? Things like that hurts us much more than what is posted here. I don't bash Steve like many others. Actually talk with him from time to time. But he has done some questionable things that Paul would never even consider doing.

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He's been in the business a while. If you're in the messing game of recruiting in any way, you are going to make some mistakes. Steve also has a responsibility to his paid subscribers. Let me also add, that he is one of the few to report publicly about this Ole Miss investigation. He is taking a lot of crap for it, but hasn't backed down. I hope he and his info get validated.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

Steve is a hard worker. He runs a camp. He watches a ton of video. He goes and sees these kids play in person. He does Bulldog radio and he does the website. Steve is generally more knowledgeable than other website guys about the recruits. In the case of AJ, hopefully he is wrong, but it definitely gives reason for pause. Personally, I feel if AJ doesn't officially visit mid-week, he doesn't sign with us.

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I don't question his work ethic, certainly don't question that he runs a camp(s) although I don't like it how he sometimes portrays those camps as the vehicle for "exposure" to players who college and JUCO coaches wouldn't know "who they were" if it weren't for the good ol' Sherriff, that he watches video, or has a show and a website.

I do question that he is more knowledgeable. Personally, I think Paul is more knowledgeable, but the difference is he knows when to shut the hell up and he doesn't try to make it look like he knows everything that is going on. And he doesn't hold personal vendettas against quality players to the point where he makes it look like the player isn't worth taking at MSU knowing that a lot of our fans are going to echo what he says.

I mean- he basically tried to run off Brandon Bryant because Bryant didn't tell him he was going on an OV to USM. And then without talking to any of our coaches stated that Bryant's scholarship had been pulled. And then he states that he was thankful because he really like JT Gray better and now he had a spot in the class- which our coaches somehow miraculously got both in the same class which I'm 99% sure was their real plan all along. And finally after the whole mess- he was never wrong the whole the time.

And then last year he basically bashed Kentavious Thomas I guess because he liked Alec Murphy better or something stupid like that. He was "right" but I didn't like how he handled it.

And now you have this with AJ. Every year it's something with at least one recruit where he makes it a pain in the ass for our coaches.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

He's been in the business a while. If you're in the messing game of recruiting in any way, you are going to make some mistakes. Steve also has a responsibility to his paid subscribers. Let me also add, that he is one of the few to report publicly about this Ole Miss investigation. He is taking a lot of crap for it, but hasn't backed down. I hope he and his info get validated.

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Devinner wasn't just a mistake like missing where a player goes. That is totally different and as a MSU site they had no business dealing with him. Bryant deal wasn't just letting it out where he was, he posted erroneous info about a scholly being pulled. I'm sorry that goes beyond a simple missed call and it has a negative impact on us. Sorry I don't buy that at all. Now I agree he has up front and kept UNM stirred up over the investigations. Kudos for him and hope he keeps it up.

Disagree on him being the most knowledgable about where recruits go. Paul's track record for several years now has been better. Partially because he doesn't jump out to be first and waits until he has good info. Steve's self-service shows up there as well. I know he has a business but Paul is not lacking subscribers by any stretch. And he doesn't have to do like Steve to get it.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

I don't question his work ethic, certainly don't question that he runs a camp(s) although I don't like it how he sometimes portrays those camps as the vehicle for "exposure" to players who college and JUCO coaches wouldn't know "who they were" if it weren't for the good ol' Sherriff, that he watches video, or has a show and a website.

I do question that he is more knowledgeable. Personally, I think Paul is more knowledgeable, but the difference is he knows when to shut the hell up and he doesn't try to make it look like he knows everything that is going on. And he doesn't hold personal vendettas against quality players to the point where he makes it look like the player isn't worth taking at MSU knowing that a lot of our fans are going to echo what he says.

I mean- he basically tried to run off Brandon Bryant because Bryant didn't tell him he was going on an OV to USM. And then without talking to any of our coaches stated that Bryant's scholarship had been pulled. And then he states that he was thankful because he really like JT Gray better and now he had a spot in the class- which our coaches somehow miraculously got both in the same class which I'm 99% sure was their real plan all along. And finally after the whole mess- he was never wrong the whole the time.

And then last year he basically bashed Kentavious Thomas I guess because he liked Alec Murphy better or something stupid like that. He was "right" but I didn't like how he handled it.

And now you have this with AJ. Every year it's something with at least one recruit where he makes it a pain in the ass for our coaches.

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I think Steve only knows and is saying what AJ wants him to say. AJ wants to make a splash and wants to build up the hype.

You don't do that by being completely forthright about your intentions.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

He's been in the business a while. If you're in the messing game of recruiting in any way, you are going to make some mistakes. Steve also has a responsibility to his paid subscribers. Let me also add, that he is one of the few to report publicly about this Ole Miss investigation. He is taking a lot of crap for it, but hasn't backed down. I hope he and his info get validated.

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I can understand misses. I don't mind that- it comes with the territory. I do mind him hurting MSU at times to "get the scoop"- THAT'S the problem I have with him.

As far as the Ole Miss stuff goes- we all know he is right.

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I think Steve only knows and is saying what AJ wants him to say. AJ wants to make a splash and wants to build up the hype.

You don't do that by being completely forthright about your intentions.

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Or maybe he did something goofy to encourage AJ to commit now to "help the coaches" and Brown has cut him off and Rosebowl is interpreting that as "he won't talk to MSU media so he is going to Bama". Meanwhile Paul talks to AJ yesterday.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Or maybe he did something goofy to encourage AJ to commit now to "help the coaches" and Brown has cut him off and Rosebowl is interpreting that as "he won't talk to MSU media so he is going to Bama". Meanwhile Paul talks to AJ yesterday.

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Maybe. I agree though. Paul being the only one media member between 3 schools to be able to get an interview is telling to me. Hopefully...

Listen to this interview by Steve on out of bounds, he certainly thinks AJ is Bama's to lose, and that is being generous.

http://stationcaster.com/player_skin...3041&f=5214383

I just noticed that 247 that Raekwon Davis has been switched back to bama. Did I miss where he officially switched back?

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

I just noticed that 247 that Raekwon Davis has been switched back to bama. Did I miss where he officially switched back?

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Lets see if he shows up at Bama this weekend.

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Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog

Listen to this interview by Steve on out of bounds, he certainly thinks AJ is Bama's to lose, and that is being generous.

http://stationcaster.com/player_skin...3041&f=5214383

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Yes, I believe that's the interview where Steve gave the 80-85% number.

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Yes, I believe that's the interview where Steve gave the 80-85% number.

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Yep and he almost implied some complacency in recruiting the local guys. I hope he's just trying to drum up drama.

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Yep and he almost implied some complacency in recruiting the local guys. I hope he's just trying to drum up drama.

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If that is the case something doesn't add up from rosebowls end. If we aren't recruiting the local guys hard then who the hell have we been recruiting since they are a 1/5th of the class and we have had half the class committed for a while? Just makes you figure the staff has a plan (we all hope).

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Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX

Yep and he almost implied some complacency in recruiting the local guys. I hope he's just trying to drum up drama.

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I doubt very seriously there is any complacency with the local guys.
One, they are in our backyard and Mullen said he wanted to put an emphasis on MS kids.
And two, they are all our highest rated players that we wanted from the beginning and now at the end.

Sooo... Is farrar going to Oklahoma this weekend?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Sooo... Is farrar going to Oklahoma this weekend?

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Yuppp just announced he would, will be interesting to see if anything comes from our in-home with him, just hope we can hold onto him....

Word is that Freeze may have slept over at Simmons' house last night.

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Originally Posted by Okrastar1

Yuppp just announced he would, will be interesting to see if anything comes from our in-home with him, just hope we can hold onto him....

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So who is plan b wr? Hope we use this scholarship on dowdell

Yeah, I have no confidence we keep farrar now

Is Kenny turnier gonna stick with Oregon state?

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Sooo... Is farrar going to Oklahoma this weekend?

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I think we will find out Friday unless he comes out and says he is done.

Would be nice.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

So who is plan b wr? Hope we use this scholarship on dowdell

Yeah, I have no confidence we keep farrar now

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I truly believe our in home will tell the tale, but I think his heart is in baseball as well and we are the better combo of both. Just worry about OK being closer to home, but we made him a priority and they played him like bama is knott... Keeping him lukewarm

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Originally Posted by Okrastar1

I truly believe our in home will tell the tale, but I think his heart is in baseball as well

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Then Cohen needs to be in Farrar's living room too

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Then Cohen needs to be in Farrar's living room too

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Im pretty sure Cohen would basically have this attitude:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...O-uSsZFYJ2TVMQ

I think we get Turnier if we give a committable offer. Surely we're waiting on all the other guys first I would think. And how in the hell do you spell committable? From what I've read, Cushenberry's mom wants him at State due to distance. We better figure something out with the local 4 if we really need to. Hopefully they're all locked in and just enjoying visits and we're planning for a signing day splash with them. Which is something I'm not sure we've ever had.

Few interesting CBs...

Jc schurburtt -- knott to bama

Bout 5 different guys -- Derrick brown to auburn

Paul jones -- hankerson to state... I don't have a paid subscription to 247, but I'm guessing this means Paul thinks farrar gone

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Few interesting CBs...

Jc schurburtt -- knott to bama

Bout 5 different guys -- Derrick brown to auburn

Paul jones -- hankerson to state... I don't have a paid subscription to 247, but I'm guessing this means Paul thinks farrar gone

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George is getting upset!!

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Then Cohen needs to be in Farrar's living room too

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I'm not sure what the baseball recruiting rules are regarding this though. If he can visit I wholeheartedly agree.

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Originally Posted by Okrastar1

I truly believe our in home will tell the tale, but I think his heart is in baseball as well and we are the better combo of both. Just worry about OK being closer to home, but we made him a priority and they played him like bama is knott... Keeping him lukewarm

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I think his girlfriend goes to Oklahoma. That's what worries me more than anything.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Few interesting CBs...

Jc schurburtt -- knott to bama

Bout 5 different guys -- Derrick brown to auburn

Paul jones -- hankerson to state... I don't have a paid subscription to 247, but I'm guessing this means Paul thinks farrar gone

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AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

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Well, this class doesn't matter, its only a bridge class. ***

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

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Either he's trolling us hard and gonna commit here after ratcheting up the suspense or he's just flat out telling us he isn't coming. If he doesn't sign with us, he's slapped us pretty good in the face by not even visiting.

Maybe I misread Paul's hankerson CB

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

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According to?

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Originally Posted by Covercorner2

According to?

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Rosebowl

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Originally Posted by maroonmania

Well, this class doesn't matter, its only a bridge class. ***

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Question is bridge to where ?

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Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

AJ not visiting us tomorrow. Meltdown is imminent.

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Sticking with the constanza theme...

"Yeah, I'm a great quitter. It's one of the few things I do well. I come from a long line of quitters. My father was a quitter, my grandfather was a quitter... I was raised to give up."

I'm bout ready to just give up on football recruiting '16 edition