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Originally Posted by Cowbell
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Jackson has a photoshoot and meeting with more behind the scenes staff on the plains tomorrow. Not sure what it means but my source is rock solid on this.
Also referred to Murphy as a solid backup plan for Freeze.
Yea he got there later than expected tonight so everything was pushed. We are hoping to get him tomorrow night but may be pushed to Saturday.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
And this is not my info, this is from a poster on another board who is usually rock solid on these things.
We are at that point. Hence Charlie making the calls this evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
Then let's see if they really want to pay him 2 million.
If you really believe he is your elite guy (and I'm not sold lebby believes that), tell him it's 1.75 million but he has to be here by noon Friday. Let's see if he wants to walk away from that
The worst part about all this... is that national media set this up to make freeze have to pay top dollar and this will end up making us look like the joke we are nationally for "losing" a guy that media claimed was coming here.
It doesn't work like that. You don't tell these kids anymore when you aren't the top dawg. Auburn will absolutely top anything we offer him. Our connection was Lebby and it should be clear to everyone that wasn't enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
That's not the worst part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Showing a commitment to try to win and get some players in here should help more people to donate, along with putting a better season together. Better players= better season= more money. Pay the man! It?s the most important position on the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDawg35
This I agree with. Pay the money now. Raise the money to replace it after you have him. Perception will matter and if perception is that you beat the dirtiest recruiter in the game for a QB, donations will flood in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Charlie is taking donations to do just that. Would you like his number?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
I have no source on our side but my Auburn guy is hook line and sinker on them. Hope it works out for us cause my smart ass will feed him the whole plate of crow.
Wish I was in position to do so. Not gunna lie, I have enough trouble putting my own kids through school, much less pay people to play football. I truly hate this pay for play stuff, but it’s the nature of the business. And if we supposedly raised all this money this year, it’s time to spend it. That’s why people donated!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
If what I have heard in the last hour is true, which who the hell knows anymore, Charlie and not Lebby will be the reason we get Arnold. A hell of a turn of events there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
So what happened with his parents wanting him to be coached by Lebby? Now they want a sleeze ball who puts no one in the league?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Agents man. Agents. Also, it’s Freeze. He is the dirtiest player in the game for a reason. That guy could sell margaritas to Southern Baptists.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bdawg
Also it is time to end the silliness. Show him the commitment we have in him. Just lay your nuts on the table and pay top dollar. Do you want to do it? No. Should you have to do it? Also no. But when Freeze gets involved you have to end the deception that he brings to the table.
Money is a hell of a thing. This game has no meaning anymore. Totally ruined. We will probably get him, at the expense of other players we need, and he will come to MSU and be a total flop. Most MSU thing ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Sounds like Freeze is good at his job.
Deeper pockets make it it easier tooQuote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
This was always what was gonna happen though. My sources kept telling me things contrary to what was on this board, and you had me hoping Lebby had it sealed. He has been in this league and worked under Kiffin. I'm really dumbfounded that he, along with the rest of our staff, didn't prepare for this. Regardless of what happens here, we have an entire staff that needs to learn how to play big boy ball. If Lebby truely had it sealed, JA never visits Auburn. He commits on Monday and starts helping us put some pieces around him.,Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
For what it's worth, some of my Denton(TX) people think JA loves him some JA and does what's best for him and thinks he was a locker room problem at OU. These aren't OU homers. And the way this Auburn deal has played out, it seems they might be right. So if we lose him, it ain't the end of the world.
I will also say this, people in the scouting world and recruiting world are higher on Luke Kromenhoek than they are Arnold. I think Kromenhoek is ranked higher on both 247 and On3.
Not saying that as some kind of concede. Just thought it was very interesting. I am not nearly as high on the kid. Am I missing something?
He is. Love him or hate him, he's a problem for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
And man does he HATE us. He hated us before but definitely does thanks to Rosebowl.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
We are fricked.
My guy basically said I hate it for you man but there?s different levels in this conference. Touche
Remind him they are paying for 6-8 wins just like we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by CarolinaDawgs
I reminded him all the big accomplishments of his boy.. none. But he is right that they can just keep pushing something they want to a level where nothing we do matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Except their coach will get fired if he wins 6-8 next year. Ours would win coach of the year. Also, the first sign of trouble, they would bench Arnold. None of their fans want him. Hell he is not in the Top 3 of the guys I want, but I know he is a hell of a lot better than Shapen, or at least he will not be on the injury report by week 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
So let me get this straight. Auburn takes MVB and JA? Sounds like the same boosters are the same problem. Smh
Auburn is not getting MVB, or I guess not taking him is the right word. He wants to go there, but he does not have an offer. He is WAY down their list.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
I?ll never understand why anyone listens to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
So who is our back up plan/plans at qb?
Tell me more about this MVB. Is he a player?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
lol. Didn’t a guy recently say on this thread that No one who regularly posts on this board knows anything? I think that guy is gonna get a lot of rep
LOL@ this damn thread! Soooo much crawfishing and BS....hate to see it
Players never visit a school unless they're interested. And JA is running from competition. I don't think Arnold is great. Even if he decides to come here he needs to improve drastically or we're no better. The fact that he couldn't win at OU is a HUGE red flag.
On another note this job appears to be over Lebby's head. I'm looking forward to going all in on a Mullen reunion next year.
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Likewise. As much as Mullen frustrated me sometimes I would take him back in a millisecond. Our fans hate him for shopping around but what these transfer players are demanding now are a million times worse than anything he ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldawg28
Im just going to sit back and not care for a year knowing that we will hopefully reach out to him when the time comes next year. And it will be a total rebuild again because we have a lot of inmates running the asylum
Why do people think Mullen would be successful here again? I doubt he thinks he could win here again. Sure he might try it, but he's not going to be able to keep a roster together any better than Lebby. It's not an indictment on them, it's just that we find ourselves in a new norm where money has gotten so big that it overwhelms good judgement every time. All of this is the way to thin the herd if you ask me.