Bringing in D-LineQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
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Bringing in D-LineQuote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
He was brought back to do one thing: recruit. He hasn?t recruited a single DL this cycle. I could?ve gotten Hibbler to commit. He had missed on Franklin, Beavers, Foster, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pancho
He hadn?t even gotten a single playmaker in via the portal. Even the guys he recruited at Florida are choosing other schools.
He's the lone returning staff member from a bad defensive team that replaced its head coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
I don't know many position coaches that can overcome being the only returning defensive staff member on a team that sucked and replaced virtually all of its coaches.
This cycle probably isn't going to go well defensively. We are going to struggle there. Give the man some grace because I'm not sure what you want him to do to overcome how bad we were this year.
He wasn?t bringing guys in over the summer. It?d be one thing if he was just here for 60 days, he hasn?t. This was a deep DL class in state and Golding is making Turner look like a chump with the DL class he has assembled.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
Does that surprise you that a guy that was Saban's defensive coordinator is recruiting well at Ole Miss?Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
Golding's coaching ability was never a concern. His ability to recruit was. And you take a 10-2 Ole Miss team with Golding against a 5-7 MSU that retained one defensive coach and you've got a recipe for not great things.
Blame Arnett. Guy was the DC and then became head coach and we lost ground with defensive guys.
Steve put in a CB for Daniel Hill to State. We shall see.
Are we completely out of it for Echoles?
He is the best DL in the MS/AL all star game. There was some talk that we had a shot with him.
Kpaka now on board from Purdue
I just saw a graphic about a kid named Karsten Upchurch committing. Anybody have info on him?
PWOQuote:
Originally Posted by DeputyDawg94
That’s awesome, he has some solid G5 offers that he is passing on to walk on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
I would think that if we wanted Foster we could push and probably get him. He's committed to Baylor and it doesn't look like we've recruited him very much.Quote:
Originally Posted by BankerDog
The fact that Hill said we barely were recruiting him under the last coaching staff says a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZedFedder
Makes me wonder how hard we tried on guys like Kamarion Franklin?
Not hard at all. That staff had the "oh well, we'll never get him" attitude.
D-Cam to Ole Miss lol
That sucks - he is a good corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Yup. Lebby has been doing well, and he understands the Ole Miss network, so hopefully this doesnt keep happening moving forwardQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Decamrion wanted to go to LSU and they didn't want him so...Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Lebby has been here what 2 weeks. Lane has been at old miss 5 years.
This. I think next offseason will be the best judge of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
And he's done more in the two to three weeks he's been here than the last staff did in a full year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Offshore Dawg
I think that is a mistake by LSU. Their defense was garbage and he would be an instant starter for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Josh Flowers commits to Arkansas State.
That should speak volumes about Lebby and his talent evaluation. If Flowers could handle it in the P5 he would be committing to a P5 team.
I never was very high on him. Speaks volumes about Barbay's evaluation skills to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
It tells me that they don't think very highly of DeCam.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
They are aware of their issues and if they don't think he would help much it says a lot.
Sunbelt Billy is having a rough day. He has three Five Stars that have been committed for months that still haven't signed and he is losing commits left and right.
Billy is gonna have a worse day when we beat his ass in Starkville next season.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
If we beat him that might be it for Napier. If they lose to us they are probably 1-3 heading into their bye week with games against UCF, Florida State, Texas, Ole Miss, Georgia, LSU, and Tennessee still left to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapGame
Might go ahead and make the change.
Anyone know if we've made any inroads with Franklin, Rush, or Beavers?
I've noticed that on 24/7 none of them have signed their letter of intent yet.
Not sure whether they have evening commits lined up or if we've done some work on one or more of them to at least make them think about it and hold off until February.
It looks like Franklin has signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
I'm looking now again and they've updated Rush as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCdawg
Looks like Beavers is the only one from that group of 3 left having not officially signed yet.
We haven't recruited Beavers at all. We dropped him. Kid is smallish and has a lot of baggage. We never pushed for Rush. He's nothing special at all. Franklin went to the highest bidder. Our DL class is better and we only signed a couple HS kids.Quote:
Originally Posted by MetEdDawg
I hope you are right. I thought Beavers and Echoles looked good in the AL/MS game. I thought Franklin looked a little stiff. Rush will be in the portal after two years would be my guess. Kid was injured all year, I doubt he ever contributes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Based on Daniel Hill's comments about how the last staff recruited him- or lack of even really trying because they just assumed we weren't going to get him- it makes we wonder if we should have at least tried on Franklin. May not have gotten him but we could have driven up the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
And, Echols was not really 6'2" and a half and too short for us according to many on this board yet he blew up to a .95, OM's highest rated commit and was a beast in the Mississippi and Alabama game. So, I will say this about all of the Mississippi OL/DL we did not get, "We didn't want them anyway."*** Seriously, if some of these guys don't get immediate playing time their freshman year, we will see them in the portal wanting their second big NIL deal next year. Nature of the beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Sounds to me like the issue we had with Echols is our coaches thought he was an o-lineman and he wanted to play DT. Which he probably is better at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
you should see him hot foot it to 1st base . the kid has wheels and the folks claiming he was a project are just out of touch. He's been the best overall talent at Houston football for 3 years running and they have had some good ones.
Beavers is like 6'1, 270 & has off field problems. He didn't even dominate in 1A/2A HS ball. Lots of schools backed off. Franklin was 100% highest bid. Echols is a legit SEC OL and has two sisters already at OM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
It looks like the last staff was worse than we all thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
The new staff landing Hill and Stonka does show what an upgrade we have made.