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10-04-2023, 01:07 PM
BlackSailsDawg

Let me introduce you to the #6 offense in the nation

WSU 4-0. They are ranked #13 in the nation with a win over Wisconsin.

Scoring offense... 5th at 45 plus per game.

Hire Arbuckle... hire the whole staff!
10-04-2023, 01:07 PM
confucius say

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Originally Posted by Coach34

I didnt think we would be stupid enough to hire Leach. But we did and here we are.

Weird take. Leach won everywhere he coached, despite all of those places being hard places to win.
10-04-2023, 01:07 PM
Maverick91

Idk if he would be a good fit down here he has only coached in the Midwest but the dude can couch. Could we pull Matt Entz from North Dakota State? That is a powerhouse and the dude has looked good since he has been there when he started in 2019.

Edit: if the dude keeps doing what he is doing he is going to get a shot somewhere big.
10-04-2023, 01:09 PM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Only a Croom/JoMo type coaching staff and this present one are stubborn enough to try to implement their square pegs round hole offense. This bunch continues to run out a 4th string GA player who has never caught a pass in four or so years at GA & State, along with questionable blocking skills and a Freshman OL at TE. Only "TE" with a catch is really a WR playing out of position there also.

Reading facts would make any person think. "Why the hell would we make that kind of a change with out the ROSTER to run what the OC wants?" Who does that?
10-04-2023, 01:10 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Let me introduce you to the #6 offense in the nation

WSU 4-0. They are ranked #13 in the nation with a win over Wisconsin.

Scoring offense... 5th at 45 plus per game.

Hire Arbuckle... hire the whole staff!

Only and mean only if we are hiring the HC. Arbuckle is not ready to run a P5 program. 5 years from now we will see.
10-04-2023, 01:12 PM
gtowndawg

Someone I would take a strong look at is Jamey Chadwell. Liberty head coach. He did an amazing job at Coastal Carolina and has Liberty undefeated so far in his first season. He does have a 4mil contract through 2030 but Liberty has no conceivable path to Power 5.

He was also the head coach for one year at Delta State earlier in his career, so he is familiar with the area. He will be somewhere big eventually.
10-04-2023, 01:13 PM
Leroy Jenkins

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Let me introduce you to the #6 offense in the nation

WSU 4-0. They are ranked #13 in the nation with a win over Wisconsin.

Scoring offense... 5th at 45 plus per game.

Hire Arbuckle... hire the whole staff!

He was my first thought (not as a HC), then I thought "do we really go back to the WSU well again?" Oh well, Why not?
10-04-2023, 01:17 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Someone I would take a strong look at is Jamey Chadwell. Liberty head coach. He did an amazing job at Coastal Carolina and has Liberty undefeated so far in his first season. He does have a 4mil contract through 2030 but Liberty has no conceivable path to Power 5.

He was also the head coach for one year at Delta State earlier in his career, so he is familiar with the area. He will be somewhere big eventually.

I think he might have some skeletons in the closet.

I think if it happens we wind up with either Petrino, Beamer or Malzhan. Petrino may go after the Florida job if it opens up. Malzhan may get a look from Arkansas. I know he was OC there under Nutt. Beamer is a long shot but stranger things have happened.
10-04-2023, 01:19 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by Maverick91

Idk if he would be a good fit down here he has only coached in the Midwest but the dude can couch. Could we pull Matt Entz from North Dakota State? That is a powerhouse and the dude has looked good since he has been there when he started in 2019.

Edit: if the dude keeps doing what he is doing he is going to get a shot somewhere big.

You just have to be careful at that small of a program with long history of success with multiple coaches. Gohl built it but has been below .500 At Wyoming. Klieman absolutely! And was even better than Gohl. He also spent several years at Northern Iowa. They churn out top notch coaches. Entz hasn't maintained that same level as Klieman I would like to see a G5 level success from him or him to pick back up NDST for a few years. Great coach though and also a part of that Northern Iowa tree.
10-04-2023, 01:22 PM
parabrave

Just go hire Merls and be over with it. No other coach can go find talent to fit his scheme, get them cheap, coach them up and start winning. And this time he will quit searching for a job after the Kentucky game/
10-04-2023, 01:22 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I think he might have some skeletons in the closet.

I think if it happens we wind up with either Petrino, Beamer or Malzhan. Petrino may go after the Florida job if it opens up. Malzhan may get a look from Arkansas. I know he was OC there under Nutt. Beamer is a long shot but stranger things have happened.

He had some recruiting violations in 2016, but I'll be honest, in today's NIL world, recruting violations in the "old" world are meaningless to me. I'm just glad we have the option to get out of this mess and start talking about real staffs we can bring in.
10-04-2023, 01:24 PM
Goldendawg

That we could get any caoch to agree to a lowball deal like this for SEC West program shows what a Mickey Mouse decision and commitment we made to "compete" against our opponents in the SEC this year. I haven't followed their record although many here said AZ would have a very good year, but I bet they are still very tee'd off they lost to us!
10-04-2023, 01:25 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Someone I would take a strong look at is Jamey Chadwell. Liberty head coach. He did an amazing job at Coastal Carolina and has Liberty undefeated so far in his first season. He does have a 4mil contract through 2030 but Liberty has no conceivable path to Power 5.

He was also the head coach for one year at Delta State earlier in his career, so he is familiar with the area. He will be somewhere big eventually.

Air Raid'ers wouldn't like it. Lol
He has done well so far but it's a run option offense with vertical passing. I think he has a big buyout too though, just going by memory, could be wrong. You have to vet him carefully though.
10-04-2023, 01:25 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

Let me introduce you to the #6 offense in the nation

WSU 4-0. They are ranked #13 in the nation with a win over Wisconsin.

Scoring offense... 5th at 45 plus per game.

Hire Arbuckle... hire the whole staff!

Intriguing for sure. But does he know any local high school coaches that can stand on the sideline and tell him what to do? Or possibly connections with fired SEC coaches that nobody else wants?
10-04-2023, 01:25 PM
DownwardDawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

No coach is going to leave SC to come to State

I've never believed he would. Just replying about his name that keeps being brought up.
10-04-2023, 01:26 PM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins

Bobby Patrinoooooo*

LOL... Actually not really opposed to it.
10-04-2023, 01:26 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Air Raid'ers wouldn't like it. Lol
He has done well so far but it's a run option offense with vertical passing. I think he has a big buyout too though, just going by memory, could be wrong.

Yes, that is true. Very good description of his offense. Not sure about a buyout though.
10-04-2023, 01:29 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Intriguing for sure. But does he know any local high school coaches that can stand on the sideline and tell him what to do? Or possibly connections with fired SEC coaches that nobody else wants?

None. He's only coached in Midwest, northern and west coast.
10-04-2023, 01:32 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Intriguing for sure. But does he know any local high school coaches that can stand on the sideline and tell him what to do? Or possibly connections with fired SEC coaches that nobody else wants?

My God that's amateur hour.

I mean, if Jackie Sherrill was put back on staff and he was Arnett's mentor/advisor on the sideline, that's one thing but having a HS coach telling you how to coach a P5 program is absolutely ludicrous and Dollar General level coaching.
10-04-2023, 01:33 PM
BlackSailsDawg

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Intriguing for sure. But does he know any local high school coaches that can stand on the sideline and tell him what to do? Or possibly connections with fired SEC coaches that nobody else wants?

LOL!
10-04-2023, 01:37 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

My God that's amateur hour.

I mean, if Jackie Sherrill was put back on staff and he was Arnett's mentor/advisor on the sideline, that's one thing but having a HS coach telling you how to coach a P5 program is absolutely ludicrous and Dollar General level coaching.

He was being sarcastic
10-04-2023, 01:37 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

He's fighting for his boys. He gets them texts now.

Never thought I would see C34 defend Lemonis, as he has recently & this incompetent FB staff which is terrible in all areas except special teams.
10-04-2023, 01:39 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

He was being sarcastic

I understand that. I was commenting off of that on our situation.
10-04-2023, 01:40 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

He had some recruiting violations in 2016, but I'll be honest, in today's NIL world, recruting violations in the "old" world are meaningless to me. I'm just glad we have the option to get out of this mess and start talking about real staffs we can bring in.

He's had a track record besides 2016 and he resigned before the hammer at Georgia Southern. It wasn't good. It's enough to give me pause and too really dig deep and vet his history.
10-04-2023, 01:40 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I understand that. I was commenting off of that on our situation.

Gotcha.
10-04-2023, 01:42 PM
Cooterpoot

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Originally Posted by Coach34

This is going to turn out just like baseball did

Not if he doesn't win. And if OM pimp slaps us, it'll turn ugly so fast it's crazy. It's all about wins. And I don't care if Selmon is his buddy. Expectations were high, tickets sold, 8 homes games & to fail is the end. Much easier schedule than last year too with the SEC way down. Lose and not firing him would mean Selmon loses all credibility with the fans after the Lemonis stuff.
10-04-2023, 01:46 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

He's had a track record besides 2016 and he resigned before the hammer at Georgia Southern. It wasn't good. It's enough to give me pause and too really dig deep and vet his history.

I've heard there were some shenanigans at Delta State dealing with female students.
10-04-2023, 01:49 PM
99jc

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Originally Posted by Coach34

No coach is going to leave SC to come to State

yeah, and Leach was never coming here! Nostradamus.
10-04-2023, 01:51 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

I've heard there were some shenanigans at Delta State dealing with female students.

Yeah, some not good rumors but you have to do due diligence to separate fact from fiction and find out what you can and can't live with.
10-04-2023, 01:52 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg

LOL... Actually not really opposed to it.

Long as Petrino has sold his motorcycle and if still married, stays away from young, attractive female staffers, I am now ready for this asap. We are the only SEC program except vandy that does not have a nationally known, competent, competitive HC in FB. Maybe Sunbelt Billy, but he is getting more well known for his problems this year and last, but have you checked their 2024 recruiting class?
10-04-2023, 02:05 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

He's had a track record besides 2016 and he resigned before the hammer at Georgia Southern. It wasn't good. It's enough to give me pause and too really dig deep and vet his history.

Charleston Southern right? I don't think he's been at Georgia Southern. Could be wrong though.
10-04-2023, 02:05 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by Cooterpoot

Not if he doesn't win. And if OM pimp slaps us, it'll turn ugly so fast it's crazy. It's all about wins. And I don't care if Selmon is his buddy. Expectations were high, tickets sold, 8 homes games & to fail is the end. Much easier schedule than last year too with the SEC way down. Lose and not firing him would mean Selmon loses all credibility with the fans after the Lemonis stuff.

As for the Egg, remember Croom's 45-0, "Well, I didn't see that coming" loss. We even fired JoMo with two winning seasons with wins over OM. 4-8 with a blow out to OM, and even CZA will see it coming.
10-04-2023, 02:13 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

Charleston Southern right? I don't think he's been at Georgia Southern. Could be wrong though.

That's right. Don't know why that popped in my head.
10-04-2023, 02:14 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Long as Petrino has sold his motorcycle and if still married, stays away from young, attractive female staffers, I am now ready for this asap. We are the only SEC program except vandy that does not have a nationally known, competent, competitive HC in FB. Maybe Sunbelt Billy, but he is getting more well known for his problems this year and last, but have you checked their 2024 recruiting class?

I don't know. Go look at his last stint at Louisville (got fired) and then Missouri State. It wasn't pretty. Just my opinion. Love talking about the different names though. Keep them coming!
10-04-2023, 02:16 PM
Really Clark?

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I don't know. Go look at his last stint at Louisville (got fired) and then Missouri State. It wasn't pretty. Just my opinion. Love talking about the different names though. Keep them coming!

With a generational QB in Lamar at that.

Kinne's at TX State is interesting, low on HC experience though.
10-04-2023, 02:17 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

As for the Egg, remember Croom's 45-0, "Well, I didn't see that coming" loss. We even fired JoMo with two winning seasons with wins over OM. 4-8 with a blow out to OM, and even CZA will see it coming.

Like a freight train. 4-8 is not showing you grasp the concept of being a head coach in a P5 program in the SEC. You have shown ZERO potential to be able to perform at this level. A veritable prison rape by OM will only seal the deal.
10-04-2023, 02:21 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by gtowndawg

I don't know. Go look at his last stint at Louisville (got fired) and then Missouri State. It wasn't pretty. Just my opinion. Love talking about the different names though. Keep them coming!

Yeah, thought of that soon as i posted, LOL. After being a young Dawg suffering through the Shira years and beyond, ( He even won SEC COY after a 6-5 record one year I think). Look, I am now feeling so desperate I would even welcome Dan 2.0 if he would wait on his annual yearly job search until after EGG Bowl, if he would have the team ready!**
10-04-2023, 02:25 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Like a freight train. 4-8 is not showing you grasp the concept of being a head coach in a P5 program in the SEC. You have shown ZERO potential to be able to perform at this level. A veritable prison rape by OM will only seal the deal.

100%. No SEC HC should ever go 0-8 and not be fired. Can you keep your job with a lack of success like that, first year or not?
10-04-2023, 02:25 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by Goldendawg

Yeah, thought of that soon as i posted, LOL. After being a young Dawg suffering through the Shira years and beyond, ( He even won SEC COY after a 6-5 record one year I think). Look, I am now feeling so desperate I would even welcome Dan 2.0 if he would wait on his annual yearly job search until after EGG Bowl, if he would have the team ready!**

Oh I get it. I was open to it as well but then those numbers sort of slapped my into reality. I'm excited though, I think we're going to do it right this time. We better.
10-04-2023, 02:26 PM
Santiago

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

You are really going to bat for your boys.

That's bullshit and you know it.

Reminds me, Matt Wyatt was alluding to some things today too. First time I have listened to him in a while.

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