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11-20-2019, 03:22 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

We need to get on our knees and beg Whittingham to give us one more chance.

We'd have to pay him 7+ mil to come. And that's only if he doesn't win the Pac 12 and get to the playoff. We had our chance on him 2 years ago and we chose to get gimmicky instead.
11-20-2019, 03:23 PM
Dawgology

Let's just hire Schiano and give Rutgers Joe for free.
11-20-2019, 03:24 PM
PGHBulldogBG

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

The folks with big checkbooks that were still on the fence completely jumped off after the ut debacle. They're embarrassed(as we all are) over the incompetence we've shown. As I've said there's interest in our HC job and it's a waiting game now to see if the triggers pulled or not. A loss in the egg guarantees it and even if we win not sure that joe survives. There's a lot of people pissed off and embarrassed.

To be clear I am by no means a Moorhead defender and want him gone, but it?s interesting this game is what really made people get angry at him. I am more mad about Florida, Iowa and mostly Kansas State at home this year. Also our lack of showing up at Auburn and at TAMU. Not saying this wasn?t a bad game either but it was on the road against a decent SEC team with equal talent .
11-20-2019, 03:24 PM
Dawgology

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

Job preservation is a strong strong motivator. Wouldn't shock me in the least.

It is. As an employer though I look at higher performance due to threat of job loss as a red flag. This means that the employee CAN perform at that level they are just choosing NOT to unless they are threatened. That is called laziness.
11-20-2019, 03:26 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

I think a lot of folks on this board are going to be disappointed if we beat OM. I seriously doubt They let Jo go if we're 6-6 and bowling.

And that's what you would be hearing from the mouthpieces. This is about the totality of the program, not one game. This is more about beating om. This about being competitive with the biggest names in the conference. Keeping Joe will not make us better.
11-20-2019, 03:32 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

To be clear I am by no means a Moorhead defender and want him gone, but it?s interesting this game is what really made people get angry at him. I am more mad about Florida, Iowa and mostly Kansas State at home this year. Also our lack of showing up at Auburn and at TAMU. Not saying this wasn?t a bad game either but it was on the road against a decent SEC team with equal talent .

I can help you here, there were many of these people very concerned before the TN game with much reason to be. But after a bye to come out and look as poorly prepared as we did and perform like they did that was the final straw. That?s when it got real.
11-20-2019, 03:35 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

To be clear I am by no means a Moorhead defender and want him gone, but it?s interesting this game is what really made people get angry at him. I am more mad about Florida, Iowa and mostly Kansas State at home this year. Also our lack of showing up at Auburn and at TAMU. Not saying this wasn?t a bad game either but it was on the road a decent SEC team with equal talent .

It's not so much that people were that happy with him before it's just This was the proverbial straw that broke the camels back. And I'm saying some folks were on the fence waiting to see if he could get it figured out but with 2 weeks to prepare we went out and looked like we didn't even practice. That was enough to finally kill the final sliver of hope joe had left.
11-20-2019, 03:36 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

I can help you here, there were many of these people very concerned before the TN game with much reason to be. But after a bye to come out and look as poorly prepared as we did and perform like they did that was the final straw. That?s when it got real.

100% dead on!

And it got real with shocking speed. Joe dropped a nuke on any support he had with that ut game. Heck it almost looks like he's trying to get fired.
11-20-2019, 03:40 PM
Thick

Even if we win the the EB (big if), no one has faith in Joe moving forward. It started last year, it started to exacerbate after AU, then blew up after UT. To keep him after winning or losing the EB is a bad financial decision for next year. You fire him, make a damn good hire as quickly as possible, and you can maintain your recruiting class. Plus, you also know that OM is keeping Luke next year, but could be possibly shopping next year. No need in competing with your in-state rival for a HC too.
11-20-2019, 03:42 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Thick

Even if we win the the EB (big if), no one has faith in Joe moving forward. It started last year, it started to exacerbate after AU, then blew up after UT. To keep him after winning or losing the EB is a bad financial decision for next year. You fire him, make a damn good hire as quickly as possible, and you can maintain your recruiting class. Plus, you also know that OM is keeping Luke next year, but could be possibly shopping next year. No need in competing with your in-state rival for a HC too.

This exactly!
11-20-2019, 03:46 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

100% dead on!

And it got real with shocking speed. Joe dropped a nuke on any support he had with that ut game. Heck it almost looks like he's trying to get fired.

Yes it did, I was kinda shocked how quick it turned.
11-20-2019, 03:47 PM
wild_dawg

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Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg

I'll add this, if Cohen is behind this, then kudos to him.

He made a bad hire, but at least he's putting MSU first and doing the right thing.

That's real leadership if true.

Totally agree. He made a bad hire (although on paper at the time most in the national media praised it). If all this is true, a lot rides on this next hire.
11-20-2019, 03:52 PM
wild_dawg

If we come out and look good on O in the Egg Bowl, I don't think anyone can take much from that. Their D isn't good at all. The fact is, we've looked like shit against d's with a pulse, and good against d's without one. Also, its not like we don't have the talent to move the ball against decent d's. I really don't think you can take much from it...but the real question is if the administration will.
11-20-2019, 03:55 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

Yes it did, I was kinda shocked how quick it turned.

Same here. My phone was blowing up all that afternoon and through the weekend. It was one of those wow moments.
11-20-2019, 03:56 PM
Churchill

I don't see how Jughead can recruit from his position now even if we beat OM. What recruit would cast his lot with a coach with one foot on a banana peel and the other out the door ? It just looks to me like it's past the point of no return.
11-20-2019, 04:29 PM
StarkVegasSteve

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Same here. My phone was blowing up all that afternoon and through the weekend. It was one of those wow moments.

I remember on Monday or Tuesday of the next week at one point thinking it was 50/50 Joe would even make it to Saturday with how bad it was.
11-20-2019, 04:36 PM
Coursesuper

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Same here. My phone was blowing up all that afternoon and through the weekend. It was one of those wow moments.

Same here. Golf group was getting pissed off on Sunday.
11-20-2019, 04:37 PM
Commercecomet24

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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve

I remember on Monday or Tuesday of the next week at one point thinking it was 50/50 Joe would even make it to Saturday with how bad it was.

Yeah it was like a nuke had been dropped. I don't know that I've ever experienced anything quite like those few days after that ut game.
11-20-2019, 04:45 PM
Bothrops

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Originally Posted by Captain Falcon

I have no doubt that Hud and Napier would be interested. Not sure on Norvell.

How do you know?
11-20-2019, 04:57 PM
Doggie_Style

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Originally Posted by Commercecomet24

Yeah it was like a nuke had been dropped. I don't know that I've ever experienced anything quite like those few days after that ut game.

Well I for one was pissed and embarrassed after that game. Hell the game was over before I could find my seat. I told some guy at a bar right after the game that we would probably end up firing Moorhead after the season and he seemed shocked that I felt that way. Turns out he was Moorhead's college roommate at Fordham.....LOL
11-20-2019, 05:05 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Homedawg

Took him long enough. 3 weeks ago, "joe moorhead will be your coach just accept it". .

Exactly. I knew he was going to have to walk that back.
11-20-2019, 05:08 PM
trojandawg

they just don't seem to get it. you can't field crappy teams in the SEC for very long. that non-competitive cramp doesn't fly here for very long. Moorhead and company acts like he walked in to Mississippi State at the end of 2008.
11-20-2019, 05:10 PM
TrapGame

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Originally Posted by trojandawg

they just don't seem to get it. you can't field crappy teams in the SEC for very long. that non-competitive cramp doesn't fly here for very long. Moorhead and company acts like he walked in to Mississippi State at the end of 2008.

He talked that way in his pressers too. He avoided Mullen's tenure like a vampire avoids a cross. To him he started coaching in 2008.
11-20-2019, 05:23 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by Really Clark?

Yeah 007 ?it?s been confirmed? he was coming back no matter what even after UT...just lying. The talks about moving forward without Joe started in earnest right after that game and it was very serious discussions. It?s been on going for weeks now. Just have to wait and see

007 had to be Joe's wife or something. It was just insane.
11-20-2019, 05:36 PM
Turfdawg67

Now this is a good thread! I'd read again. I'd be happy with Napier or Norvell.
11-20-2019, 05:50 PM
FriarsPoint

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Originally Posted by Bothrops

How do you know?

Pretty simple. Money.
11-20-2019, 05:53 PM
KOdawg1

Damn it guys, my hopes are officially up lol
11-20-2019, 05:56 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by KOdawg1

Damn it guys, my hopes are officially up lol

I'm trying to prepare myself for the "big let down" of no official announcement post-EB.
11-20-2019, 05:59 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

I think a lot of folks on this board are going to be disappointed if we beat OM. I seriously doubt They let Jo go if we're 6-6 and bowling.

I'm afraid you're right. And while I'll never root to lose to those shitbirds, I guess it'll ease the pain a little if it means Moorhead is let go because of it. Let's all hope and pray for this scenario: 1) We destroy OM. 2) Joe has a Rutgers deal ready to go and resigns after Egg Bowl. 3) Buckley coaches us to a Music City Bowl victory by starting Schrader. 4) Schrader is named MVP and announces in the post game press conference that he is a "Bulldog for life". 5) Norvell is introduced as our new head coach. 6) Mullen is fired after the 2020 season because he loses to Kirby for the 10 straight time. 7) Saban retires. 8) MSU wins the SEC and makes the College Playoffs. 9) Schrader, under Norvell's tutelage, wins the Heismann. 10) Dak uses some of his $40MM / yr to redo the Seal end zone and it's freaking amazing.
11-20-2019, 06:03 PM
FriarsPoint

1) Anyone thinking we beat ole miss isn’t paying attention.

2) Even if we do, if you’ve been paying attention and reading between the lines, it won’t matter. This guys fate is sealed. And I say good riddance.
11-20-2019, 06:11 PM
Turfdawg67

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Originally Posted by FriarsPoint

1) Anyone thinking we beat ole miss isn’t paying attention.

2) Even if we do, if you’ve been paying attention and reading between the lines, it won’t matter. This guys fate is sealed. And I say good riddance.

Two shitty teams that can't stop each other? Sounds like a toss up to me. Being at home and having Gay and Autry gives us a slight edge. Hell Hill and TS could have huge days
11-20-2019, 06:23 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

Two shitty teams that can't stop each other? Sounds like a toss up to me. Being at home and having Gay and Autry gives us a slight edge. Hell Hill and TS could have huge days

This is why we aren't going to beat OM- it doesn't take much of a gap for a long TD run to happen:

https://twitter.com/CoachDanCasey/st...991096320?s=20
11-20-2019, 06:24 PM
OLJWales

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

I'm afraid you're right. And while I'll never root to lose to those shitbirds, I guess it'll ease the pain a little if it means Moorhead is let go because of it. Let's all hope and pray for this scenario: 1) We destroy OM. 2) Joe has a Rutgers deal ready to go and resigns after Egg Bowl. 3) Buckley coaches us to a Music City Bowl victory by starting Schrader. 4) Schrader is named MVP and announces in the post game press conference that he is a "Bulldog for life". 5) Norvell is introduced as our new head coach. 6) Mullen is fired after the 2020 season because he loses to Kirby for the 10 straight time. 7) Saban retires. 8) MSU wins the SEC and makes the College Playoffs. 9) Schrader, under Norvell's tutelage, wins the Heismann. 10) Dak uses some of his $40MM / yr to redo the Seal end zone and it's freaking amazing.

That was awesome, gonna read again.
11-20-2019, 06:26 PM
Mjoelner34

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'm trying to prepare myself for the "big let down" of no official announcement post-EB.

Me too. But right now I'm all like....
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11-20-2019, 06:30 PM
dawgday166

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Originally Posted by Mjoelner34

Me too. But right now I'm all like....
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LOL ... I'm trying to talk myself out of being like that meme. Let down would be same order of magnitude of last year's results haha.
11-20-2019, 06:30 PM
gtowndawg

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Originally Posted by Turfdawg67

I'm afraid you're right. And while I'll never root to lose to those shitbirds, I guess it'll ease the pain a little if it means Moorhead is let go because of it. Let's all hope and pray for this scenario: 1) We destroy OM. 2) Joe has a Rutgers deal ready to go and resigns after Egg Bowl. 3) Buckley coaches us to a Music City Bowl victory by starting Schrader. 4) Schrader is named MVP and announces in the post game press conference that he is a "Bulldog for life". 5) Norvell is introduced as our new head coach. 6) Mullen is fired after the 2020 season because he loses to Kirby for the 10 straight time. 7) Saban retires. 8) MSU wins the SEC and makes the College Playoffs. 9) Schrader, under Norvell's tutelage, wins the Heismann. 10) Dak uses some of his $40MM / yr to redo the Seal end zone and it's freaking amazing.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/73b0...temid=15566834
11-20-2019, 06:45 PM
WSOPdawg

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Originally Posted by Coach34

This is why we aren't going to beat OM- it doesn't take much of a gap for a long TD run to happen:

https://twitter.com/CoachDanCasey/st...991096320?s=20

JRP, Ealey & Snoop will be 3 fastest players on the field. Missed tackles will doom us repeatedly imo.
11-20-2019, 06:48 PM
KOdawg1

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Originally Posted by Coach34

This is why we aren't going to beat OM- it doesn't take much of a gap for a long TD run to happen:

https://twitter.com/CoachDanCasey/st...991096320?s=20

They have speed. We don?t
11-20-2019, 07:05 PM
Coach34

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Originally Posted by WSOPdawg

JRP, Ealey & Snoop will be 3 fastest players on the field. Missed tackles will doom us repeatedly imo.

That and our DL just isn't all that good. They will create gaps in our DL with the zone blocking to get some huge plays- and Autry and Willie playing helps but in the end it wont matter.
11-20-2019, 07:09 PM
Goldendawg

Even if we manage to win, the days of saying that everything is OK just because we beat UM are long gone in my view. I expect much more from MSU football today. Hail State! BTW, Coach 34, why can't we wear the MSU helmet in your avatar every once in a while? We've worn everything else under the sun the last few years, uniform wise.

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