Dan's gotta go.

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Originally Posted by Coach

Really? Because basketball did so well after? Football improved how far down the line?

Personally, I agree... When something needs to be done.. Do it. Over all, Dan is the guy who has made changes to the staff to better he program. We will see that again if he does indeed stay.

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I agree that I don't want something done in haste. However, it may not be our call. It may be Dans call.

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Originally Posted by Coach

They may not. But I think LSU is beatable with Dan. I think Saban and freeze is all that stops us next year and I feel we can beat one of them.

I would not be surprised to see us ranked top 10 mid season.

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I'm drunk right now....but I'd love a snort of what you're havin'

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Originally Posted by Coach34

Mullen is gone

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bookmarked. can wait to mock and shit all over this

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I'm drunk right now....but I'd love a snort of what you're havin'

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always rears it's head when ur drunk *. *

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Originally Posted by Coach

They may not. But I think LSU is beatable with Dan. I think Saban and freeze is all that stops us next year and I feel we can beat one of them.

I would not be surprised to see us ranked top 10 mid season.

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On that note, I think I will go to bed. At least I found something else to chuckle at before doing so. :)

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Originally Posted by Coach

Really? Because basketball did so well after? Football improved how far down the line?

Personally, I agree... When something needs to be done.. Do it. Over all, Dan is the guy who has made changes to the staff to better he program. We will see that again if he does indeed stay.

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My point was that basketball and football were dumpster fires because we waited too long to fix the problem, and when we finally got around to doing it, rebuilding was a much tougher job. We also didn't make smart hires in those cases. I know you can say that it could happen again, and you are correct, but I think you need to strike before any more ground is lost.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyQuid

always rears it's head when ur drunk *. *

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Well....I'd like to think I'm an optimist...definitely not a pessimist....but shit....that was some serious spin.

I'd like to see Dan stay, but fire Hevesy & Sallach...and bring in an offensive line coach and an OC that can recruit. We may need to fire Hughes as well, or reassign him to recruiting only, Bc our safety play sucks. We have two glaring weaknesses, & are solid everywhere else. OL and Secondary gotta get fixed now. The only other issue is our preparation and play calling in big games. Dan is dropping the ball big time in big games...it's like we peak emotionally BEFORE the game instead of during it....and Dan totally tightens up in the biggest games in his play calling. He's gotta either get it fixed or hire an OC that can handle focusing on the play calling.

I do not agree with Mullen NEEDING to go. That is just overreaction to losing a home Egg Bowl IMO. He may take another job, but we'll see. That's the only way he's leaving...Scott would never fire him with this level of success, nor should he. But changes should be made for sure within the staff. Hevesy & Sallach are worthless.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd like to see Dan stay, but fire Hevesy & Sallach...and bring in an offensive line coach and an OC that can recruit. We may need to fire Hughes as well, or reassign him to recruiting only, Bc our safety play sucks. We have two glaring weaknesses, & are solid everywhere else. OL and Secondary gotta get fixed now. The only other issue is our preparation and play calling in big games. Dan is dropping the ball big time in big games...it's like we peak emotionally BEFORE the game instead of during it....and Dan totally tightens up in the biggest games in his play calling. He's gotta either get it fixed or hire an OC that can handle focusing on the play calling.

I do not agree with Mullen NEEDING to go. That is just overreaction to losing a home Egg Bowl IMO. He may take another job, but we'll see. That's the only way he's leaving...Scott would never fire him with this level of success, nor should he. But changes should be made for sure within the staff. Hevesy & Sallach are worthless.

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Agree with everything in this post.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd like to see Dan stay, but fire Hevesy & Sallach...and bring in an offensive line coach and an OC that can recruit. We may need to fire Hughes as well, or reassign him to recruiting only, Bc our safety play sucks. We have two glaring weaknesses, & are solid everywhere else. OL and Secondary gotta get fixed now. The only other issue is our preparation and play calling in big games. Dan is dropping the ball big time in big games...it's like we peak emotionally BEFORE the game instead of during it....and Dan totally tightens up in the biggest games in his play calling. He's gotta either get it fixed or hire an OC that can handle focusing on the play calling.

I do not agree with Mullen NEEDING to go. That is just overreaction to losing a home Egg Bowl IMO. He may take another job, but we'll see. That's the only way he's leaving...Scott would never fire him with this level of success, nor should he. But changes should be made for sure within the staff. Hevesy & Sallach are worthless.

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Well put, CD.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd like to see Dan stay, but fire Hevesy & Sallach...and bring in an offensive line coach and an OC that can recruit. We may need to fire Hughes as well, or reassign him to recruiting only, Bc our safety play sucks. We have two glaring weaknesses, & are solid everywhere else. OL and Secondary gotta get fixed now. The only other issue is our preparation and play calling in big games. Dan is dropping the ball big time in big games...it's like we peak emotionally BEFORE the game instead of during it....and Dan totally tightens up in the biggest games in his play calling. He's gotta either get it fixed or hire an OC that can handle focusing on the play calling.

I do not agree with Mullen NEEDING to go. That is just overreaction to losing a home Egg Bowl IMO. He may take another job, but we'll see. That's the only way he's leaving...Scott would never fire him with this level of success, nor should he. But changes should be made for sure within the staff. Hevesy & Sallach are worthless.

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Yep.

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Originally Posted by Coach

They may not. But I think LSU is beatable with Dan. I think Saban and freeze is all that stops us next year and I feel we can beat one of them.

I would not be surprised to see us ranked top 10 mid season.

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I'm thinking something along the lines of fans being unenthusiastic about next year. We're picked last again. And then Dan brings out this 2010 flashback offense with Fitz looking like a future Heisman candidate with the defense playing tighter and meaner. We're top 20 and everybody - once again - forgets the turds Dan has laid in the past. Because that's the shit Dan does.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd like to see Dan stay, but fire Hevesy & Sallach...and bring in an offensive line coach and an OC that can recruit. We may need to fire Hughes as well, or reassign him to recruiting only, Bc our safety play sucks. We have two glaring weaknesses, & are solid everywhere else. OL and Secondary gotta get fixed now. The only other issue is our preparation and play calling in big games. Dan is dropping the ball big time in big games...it's like we peak emotionally BEFORE the game instead of during it....and Dan totally tightens up in the biggest games in his play calling. He's gotta either get it fixed or hire an OC that can handle focusing on the play calling.

I do not agree with Mullen NEEDING to go. That is just overreaction to losing a home Egg Bowl IMO. He may take another job, but we'll see. That's the only way he's leaving...Scott would never fire him with this level of success, nor should he. But changes should be made for sure within the staff. Hevesy & Sallach are worthless.

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Level headed. Great post.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd like to see Dan stay, but fire Hevesy & Sallach...and bring in an offensive line coach and an OC that can recruit. We may need to fire Hughes as well, or reassign him to recruiting only, Bc our safety play sucks. We have two glaring weaknesses, & are solid everywhere else. OL and Secondary gotta get fixed now. The only other issue is our preparation and play calling in big games. Dan is dropping the ball big time in big games...it's like we peak emotionally BEFORE the game instead of during it....and Dan totally tightens up in the biggest games in his play calling. He's gotta either get it fixed or hire an OC that can handle focusing on the play calling.

I do not agree with Mullen NEEDING to go. That is just overreaction to losing a home Egg Bowl IMO. He may take another job, but we'll see. That's the only way he's leaving...Scott would never fire him with this level of success, nor should he. But changes should be made for sure within the staff. Hevesy & Sallach are worthless.

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Everyone here knows that Dan is a stubborn SOB. Witness how he's handled special teams, and that tells you all you need to know about the likelihood of bringing in an OC or another line coach. And no, Stricklin won't fire him; he doesn't have the balls to. In fact, he doesn't have the balls to force Dan to make staff changes. But anyone who thinks this is going to be any different next year is just fooling himself. We have lots of talent returning next year, and yet, we'll be seeing the same things.

He needs to go. I hope he has something else lined up.

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

Well said. If Mullen leaves, we are going to the get the dregs of the coaching picking-order. Not to mention the effect that will have on the current recruiting class.

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What recruiting class we ranked 40th

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I'm drunk right now....but I'd love a snort of what you're havin'

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Just seeing a bigger picture. Thinking in terms of what we have returning that's is a plus... Certain aspects of the OL is not bad. What we need is already here and we are recruiting the other. We will have a better line. Defense... Over all better. Example.. Jiles. Look who he showed up tonight. We return a lot of great pieces and have either redshirted or have others coming in.

When I see that vs ole Mis and what they lose. I like that. LSU.... So! Tamu.. Not a problem. Ark.. Loses a lot. Mainly the only qb they have. The only team that worries me next year is Bama. The rest will be up for grabs.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Everyone here knows that Dan is a stubborn SOB. Witness how he's handled special teams, and that tells you all you need to know about the likelihood of bringing in an OC or another line coach. And no, Stricklin won't fire him; he doesn't have the balls to. In fact, he doesn't have the balls to force Dan to make staff changes. But anyone who thinks this is going to be any different next year is just fooling himself. We have lots of talent returning next year, and yet, we'll be seeing the same things.

He needs to go. I hope he has something else lined up.

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Exactly, at this point I don't see how people expect him to suddenly decide to "do something different."

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

This is a hard lesson we learned from the Sherrill, Stansbury, and Polk II eras. When you know that something has to be done, you gotta pull the trigger. One more year is another year down the hole. It may be acceptable for you to watch the same old shit next year, but I've seen enough.

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I agree.

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Originally Posted by Coach

Just seeing a bigger picture. Thinking in terms of what we have returning that's is a plus... Certain aspects of the OL is not bad. What we need is already here and we are recruiting the other. We will have a better line. Defense... Over all better. Example.. Jiles. Look who he showed up tonight. We return a lot of great pieces and have either redshirted or have others coming in.

When I see that vs ole Mis and what they lose. I like that. LSU.... So! Tamu.. Not a problem. Ark.. Loses a lot. Mainly the only qb they have. The only team that worries me next year is Bama. The rest will be up for grabs.

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Those teams have been leaving Mullen in the recruiting dust so I think they'll be alright

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

Those teams have been leaving Mullen in the recruiting dust so I think they'll be alright

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Lol! OK! We will just disagree on that.

But we need to hang on 1 year!

^^^Hughes is leaving. Unless it's a done deal, Dan want leave this gravy train. Scott will get cussed out if he suggests coaching changes to Dan. Now there are people who can demand change but they don't work for MSU.

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Originally Posted by bluelightstar

Those teams have been leaving Mullen in the recruiting dust so I think they'll be alright

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And not to mention the bears are loosing alot but look at there recuiting they are number 6 right now, we are 40.

Here is a difference in our recruiting versus theirs:

They will probably sign the nations top offensive tackle in Greg Little. We still haven't committed Johnnie Cooks' nephew from West Point on the offensive line. There are three or four studs in the golden triangle area and we don't have any of them committed yet.

You don't ever keep a coach over a recruiting class- especially one ranked in the 40's

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Originally Posted by Coach

Just seeing a bigger picture. Thinking in terms of what we have returning that's is a plus... Certain aspects of the OL is not bad. What we need is already here and we are recruiting the other. We will have a better line. Defense... Over all better. Example.. Jiles. Look who he showed up tonight. We return a lot of great pieces and have either redshirted or have others coming in.

When I see that vs ole Mis and what they lose. I like that. LSU.... So! Tamu.. Not a problem. Ark.. Loses a lot. Mainly the only qb they have. The only team that worries me next year is Bama. The rest will be up for grabs.

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Well we have resulted to basing next year on teams losing guys? Not that we are going to be loaded due to recruiting and experience? Nope, ole miss is losing this and that, Arky and LSU blah blah blah! Garbage. NO! Take that shit somewhere else. Recruit better, coach better, do the complete opposite of what our staff did this past week.

My biggest problem with Mullen is he picked the fight with UM and now he is having his ass handed to him and he doesn't seem to really care. If that is the trade off to beating Kentucky and USM I think I'd rather pay Monken 1.3M for the same results.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd like to see Dan stay, but fire Hevesy & Sallach...and bring in an offensive line coach and an OC that can recruit. We may need to fire Hughes as well, or reassign him to recruiting only, Bc our safety play sucks. We have two glaring weaknesses, & are solid everywhere else. OL and Secondary gotta get fixed now. The only other issue is our preparation and play calling in big games. Dan is dropping the ball big time in big games...it's like we peak emotionally BEFORE the game instead of during it....and Dan totally tightens up in the biggest games in his play calling. He's gotta either get it fixed or hire an OC that can handle focusing on the play calling.

I do not agree with Mullen NEEDING to go. That is just overreaction to losing a home Egg Bowl IMO. He may take another job, but we'll see. That's the only way he's leaving...Scott would never fire him with this level of success, nor should he. But changes should be made for sure within the staff. Hevesy & Sallach are worthless.

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My man, everything but Hughes. HE HAS too Stay. Spot on bro.

It's just time. Mullen has done well here. Congrats, now let's move on.

We have to keep growing. We are regressing and I bet that is why he is trying to get out. And he's right and I'm not offended. It happens. Someone else has to take the next step.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

I'd like to see Dan stay, but fire Hevesy & Sallach...and bring in an offensive line coach and an OC that can recruit. We may need to fire Hughes as well, or reassign him to recruiting only, Bc our safety play sucks. We have two glaring weaknesses, & are solid everywhere else. OL and Secondary gotta get fixed now. The only other issue is our preparation and play calling in big games. Dan is dropping the ball big time in big games...it's like we peak emotionally BEFORE the game instead of during it....and Dan totally tightens up in the biggest games in his play calling. He's gotta either get it fixed or hire an OC that can handle focusing on the play calling.

I do not agree with Mullen NEEDING to go. That is just overreaction to losing a home Egg Bowl IMO. He may take another job, but we'll see. That's the only way he's leaving...Scott would never fire him with this level of success, nor should he. But changes should be made for sure within the staff. Hevesy & Sallach are worthless.

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Agree 100%. walking out of the stadium I said we needed a real OC and a new oline coach. dan is a great qb developer but damn his playcalling us horrible

as u said, the fire mullen diatribe is simple overreaction

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Originally Posted by Noxdog

My man, everything but Hughes. HE HAS too Stay. Spot on bro.

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Hughes can stay and not coach.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyQuid

Agree 100%. walking out of the stadium I said we needed a real OC and a new oline coach. dan is a great qb developer but damn his playcalling us horrible

as u said, the fire mullen diatribe is simple overreaction

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Once again, you won't get any of those things with Dan here.

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Originally Posted by Coach

Just seeing a bigger picture. Thinking in terms of what we have returning that's is a plus... Certain aspects of the OL is not bad. What we need is already here and we are recruiting the other. We will have a better line. Defense... Over all better. Example.. Jiles. Look who he showed up tonight. We return a lot of great pieces and have either redshirted or have others coming in.

When I see that vs ole Mis and what they lose. I like that. LSU.... So! Tamu.. Not a problem. Ark.. Loses a lot. Mainly the only qb they have. The only team that worries me next year is Bama. The rest will be up for grabs.

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What aspect of the oline look good to you. That is the worst oline in the SEC and one of the worst in the power 5 conferences. It is absolutely horrific to watch that shat show week after week. Our last two seasons have been held back by the oline or really the lack of. Can't sustain a drive can't move anyone. Get beaten like a rented government mules redheaded step child. Hev needs to go, but won't. Tgat is the problem.

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

Once again, you won't get any of those things with Dan here.

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oh. sorry dan

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

What aspect of the oline look good to you. That is the worst oline in the SEC and one of the worst in the power 5 conferences. It is absolutely horrific to watch that shat show week after week. Our last two seasons have been held back by the oline or really the lack of. Can't sustain a drive can't move anyone. Get beaten linke a rented government mules redheaded step child. Hev needs to go, but won't. Tgat is the problem.

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You left off the timely holding penalties and like-clockwork false starts in the redzone.

Again, we're not going to fire him. So who exactly is going to hire a coach who can't win the big game? Crickets. We're stuck with him for better or worse.

Harbaugh, Meyer and dantonio would coach absolute circles around Mullen if he ended up in that division

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Originally Posted by Bubb Rubb

You left off the timely holding penalties and like-clockwork false starts in the redzone.

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Those are just the bonuses we get with the fine coaching or oline recives. Along with fat and slow we get stupid to go along with it.

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Originally Posted by Coursesuper

What aspect of the oline look good to you. That is the worst oline in the SEC and one of the worst in the power 5 conferences. It is absolutely horrific to watch that shat show week after week. Our last two seasons have been held back by the oline or really the lack of. Can't sustain a drive can't move anyone. Get beaten like a rented government mules redheaded step child. Hev needs to go, but won't. Tgat is the problem.

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Our issues all year have been mainly due to the play of OTs. Those are going to be vastly improved next season with the addition of a few juco players. The OL was not horrible last year. At all. That OL was the reason Dak had his success. And if you watch this line, this season..... As the season progressed we made strides in shedding the first assignments and making it into the second level.

The sacks... Go back and look... Most were created by the OTs not being god enough.

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Originally Posted by Statecoachingblows**

Well we have resulted to basing next year on teams losing guys? Not that we are going to be loaded due to recruiting and experience? Nope, ole miss is losing this and that, Arky and LSU blah blah blah! Garbage. NO! Take that shit somewhere else. Recruit better, coach better, do the complete opposite of what our staff did this past week.

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Wow! Amazed at what people only comprehend what they want to out of what they read!

We will be loaded next year. I believe next year is going to be the most talented roster we have had under Mullen! At the same time, I believe our main competition will be down