That will not happen. I have been told by multiple people that we are waiting until we are done to make an official announcement.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
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That will not happen. I have been told by multiple people that we are waiting until we are done to make an official announcement.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
Which is wild. Wonder when the last time a team 60 or worse in rpi has gotten an at large bidQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Conference realignment has made RPI really wonky.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I suspect they recalibrate the formula soon.
That's the right thing to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I mean we say that but we, depending on who you listen to, lost Schloss last time because we would not go ahead and announce. I do agree that it is the right thing to do though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
I blame that more on Cohen than anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Schlossnagle should have been more understanding too. Waiting until a team is done with the postseason is not an unreasonable ask.
Especially at that point- it would have been what? A week at the most.
There is so much smoke around BOC right now that I have a hard time not believing he?s the guy. This feels different than when all the smoke on the football hire was around Jamey Chadwell. No one is shooting the idea of BOC down. Chadwell got shot down by at least one that covers the team early in the process while others kept pushing him as the priority.
Worst case scenario is that O'Connor tentatively agrees with us, we decide to wait until our season ends, and then in the meantime Texas A&M decides to make a change after all, and steals him away from us.
If O'Connor is the guy, we need to announce him as soon as O'Connor is ready to commit, regardless of what's going on in our postseason. If anything, it might fire our program up some to know the big changes that are coming.
Also, O'Connor could go ahead and start talking to recruits and transfers next week rather than waiting 1, 2, or 3 more weeks.
I agree. I totally understand waiting for the other guys team to be done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
But what difference will it make if we announced IF we were still playing. It?s not like we gonna get hot and win it all.
What would we lose by waiting other than time the new HC could be working the portal? Hell, if we are still playing he has a program to sell to these portal players.
And even if we did, I'd still want O'Connor over Parker and would be happy to have the decision already formalized.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
He can sign a contract without it being announcedQuote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
The only place I saw that had Chadwell as a legit option was Robbie and Paul's board. I don't remember seeing it being posted much here at all unless it was someone saying that he wasn't coming and Steve pretty much shot it down the whole time. Which doesn't speak well for Waz unless Robbie has a lot better baseball contacts.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Worse case scenario would be we hire O'Connor and then he pulls a Bill Bellichick move like he did with the Jets and still goes to A&M. I think that is a bit of a stretch to think that would happen because as far as I know O'Connor doesn't have ties to A&M, I'm not sure how he feels about them choosing Earley over him, and we weren't an option last time. There is a very good possibility that he would have picked us over A&M anyway. Yes, A&M has money but there is also a market and I don't think they would pay him 3 million if they can just pivot and get Rob Vaughn anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
This is true. And it's true for other potential targets as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
The reality is we are going to be in a regional and most of if not all of our prime targets are going to be in regionals as well. Once eliminations and things happen then we can go further along with the process.
They could. But in today's social media environment, no way that remains a secret. If anyone signs before we are finished playing it will get out. Now, and agreement in principle may be kept quiet for a bit. But it will leak out if Selmon signs a coach before announcing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Yeah. If O'Connor resigns from Virginia while we're in a regional- it's going to be pretty obvious what is going to happen. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I do think- and this is the ONLY reason why I think it might be someone other than O'Connor- a lot of coaches are competitors first and foremost and do care about their players for the most part. (Unless they're Paul Manieri or Jimmy Bragan but I digress) and even if they are unhappy and want to move on most of them don't want a ton of rumors floating around out there. They don't want to have to answer questions like Schlossnagle had to answer last year in Omaha about job openings. That was a no win situation for Schlossnagle.
With O'Connor I'm not sure if the rumors would be out there if it wasn't for what happened LAST year. I think everyone knows he is looking and why- there have been literal articles basically confirming rumors about the situation there. So, I'm 100% sure he is interested. Plus in his case he may really want to stay but he knows he needs resources that they aren't willing to give him to sustain it and he may be using our job as a last ditch effort to get that.
Waz sounds to me like something being leaked by an agent.
Fitzgerald just seems like an obvious candidate that is our floor. I don't think it matters how he handles it because I doubt Kansas would do anything if we decided to hire him. We could probably pay him less than we paid Lemonis and he would still get a significant raise and they probably wouldn't even counter.
I'm talking if they're finished but we're still playing. He can sign a contract no problem and it not be released but you're right, his buyout part would be the problem, too many bourbons tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Virginia will still be playing next week, so I don't expect anything if OConner is really a candidate.
No way they get left out because they didn't get to play FSU due to the school shooting. I had forgotten about that but heard the announcer talking about it in this ACC tournament championship game.
We absolutely have the talent to suddenly get hot and win it all. This is college baseball. If two pitchers find it (think Siary against OM level of finding it) and the softball lineup that we have mashes, then we're in Omaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Both BA and D1 have Virginia out at this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
I have continued to reiterate that O'Conner is most likely not the guy. But if he is, why are we that excited about a guy that can't even make a regional out of the ACC? I get that he has had great seasons. But it's a new day in college baseball and I feel like we need someone that is promising in the new environment.
We also have no idea if Lemonis could have turned things back around if he had been allowed to coach out the season. But the evidence was there that he had his best seasons with the majority of the team being recruited by someone else. The 7 trips Virginia has made to Omaha under O'Connor, most likely were his recruits. And oh yeah. They beat Lemonis reinvented State team last year with BoC recruits. They have had a good season but may get punished because the bottom half of their conference is worse than the bottom half of ours!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
If we can sign any of the supposed Top 3 of O'Connor, Bakich, or Wasikowski, we "should be able to turn it around quickly and not have to go through a total rebuild!
Jesus fuсking Christ, I've conclusively demonstrated probably a dozen times on this board exactly why O'Connor (not O'Conner) is not to blame for UVA's failure to make a Regional this year, it's all a combination of bad luck, bad support from his AD, and the general fall of ACC prestige, 0% on him. That's the reason he's looking to get out of there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
I knew this would happen. I knew it. People who think small would be desperate to contrive any illegitimate reason to try to ѕhit on what would be the best college baseball hire of the 21st century because they just don't think Mississippi State is worthy of it.
So Q, don't hold back anything, what do you really think??!!?? LOL!!!
BOC has been to Omaha in 3 of the past 4 years. If they don?t get in, this is only the 2nd time in his 22 seasons that UVA hasn?t made the postseason. Back in 2018 when we wanted Schlossnagle, his TCU team didn?t make it to the postseason.
BOC is a legit ELITE college baseball head coach. He?s in the same stratosphere as Jim Schlossnagle, DVH, Sully, Corbin, and Vitello. He?s the only possibility that is at that level.
If Chris Lemonis had finished 16-11 in the SEC in the years he missed a Regional, including an entire series canceled after a shooting that prevented a big RPI opportunity, we wouldn't have held it against him, at least not nearly so much as when he went 9-21.
When did he miss a Regional???Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Because he's already too busy recruiting the portal for State to be worried about making a regional with his old team this year!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Even if we hired someone not in the top three we should be able to turn it around quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
I believe Virginia will be in a regional.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Virginia deserves to be in a Regional. It's not their fault their biggest RPI opportunity got canceled.
But selfishly, I hope they're not. Imagine if O'Connor is all set to come here, but then leads them on a deep run (he's at worst a top 5 coach in all of college baseball, after all) and they decide to give him the commitment he wants after all.
I'd much rather have him announced and official in 48 hours, instead of waiting another week, 2 weeks, 3 weeks, whatever.
This is the kind of intensity I want from our players next year!Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Seriously? Hasn't he been to Omaha like 3 out of the last 4 years? And made a regional 20 out of 21 seasons?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Nebraska's just stole a bid knocking out another bubble team. Cal Poly in the 1st inning trying to do the same thing.
Get O'Connor to Starkville ASAP!
What are yall gonna do if he isn?t the guy? All yall have hitched your hopes on one guy with zero real evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I wouldn't be surprised if the committee takes RPI into less account than usual. You have some P4 teams that had really good seasons in conference that have lower than expected RPI's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
I think most people would be happy with Bakich or Waz too. Fitzgerald maybe should excite our fans more but he would be a good hire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
I want the clempson dude, Bakich. I still expect Butch though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
Depends on who the hire is, anywhere from "oh OK, that's fine too" to "well that sucks and Selmon and Keenum really dropped the ball." I'll still support the team and program next year regardless, just like I did in 2024 and 2025.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coursesuper
But I wouldn't say there's "zero real evidence." You have national guys, MSU beat writers, and UVA beat writers all calling him a top candidate.
I would just take what any writer is saying with a grain of salt they all are selling something. One other point the AD is not the primary person leading this search.Quote:
Originally Posted by Quaoarsking
Butch is down the list for me, but us hiring him would still excite me. He runs a good program and embraces the transfer portal which is something our next coach needs to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by DownwardDawg
Before anyone jumps in, yes, I know it's not happening.
My excitement meter for potential hires:
BOC: 10/10
Bakich: 10/10
Wasikowski: 9.5/10
Butch: 8/10
Pollard: 8/10
Walter: 7/10
Fitz: like a 6; he'd be a good coach but it's kinda meh for me
Skip Johnson: 5/10