Deep Dive Into The Candidates

[StarkVegasSteve]

I will say BOC has been the number one target from day one. We shall see soon, IF he is and whenever their season ends, I hope we have a press conference right away. Regardless if we are still playing.

That will not happen. I have been told by multiple people that we are waiting until we are done to make an official announcement.

[confucius say]

The latest updates from both D1 and BA has UVA in.

Which is wild. Wonder when the last time a team 60 or worse in rpi has gotten an at large bid

[Todd4State]

Which is wild. Wonder when the last time a team 60 or worse in rpi has gotten an at large bid

Conference realignment has made RPI really wonky.

I suspect they recalibrate the formula soon.

[Todd4State]

That will not happen. I have been told by multiple people that we are waiting until we are done to make an official announcement.

That's the right thing to do.

[StarkVegasSteve]

That's the right thing to do.

I mean we say that but we, depending on who you listen to, lost Schloss last time because we would not go ahead and announce. I do agree that it is the right thing to do though.

[Todd4State]

I mean we say that but we, depending on who you listen to, lost Schloss last time because we would not go ahead and announce. I do agree that it is the right thing to do though.

I blame that more on Cohen than anything.

Schlossnagle should have been more understanding too. Waiting until a team is done with the postseason is not an unreasonable ask.

Especially at that point- it would have been what? A week at the most.

[KB21]

There is so much smoke around BOC right now that I have a hard time not believing he?s the guy. This feels different than when all the smoke on the football hire was around Jamey Chadwell. No one is shooting the idea of BOC down. Chadwell got shot down by at least one that covers the team early in the process while others kept pushing him as the priority.

[Quaoarsking]

Worst case scenario is that O'Connor tentatively agrees with us, we decide to wait until our season ends, and then in the meantime Texas A&M decides to make a change after all, and steals him away from us.

If O'Connor is the guy, we need to announce him as soon as O'Connor is ready to commit, regardless of what's going on in our postseason. If anything, it might fire our program up some to know the big changes that are coming.

Also, O'Connor could go ahead and start talking to recruits and transfers next week rather than waiting 1, 2, or 3 more weeks.

[StateDawg44]

Worst case scenario is that O'Connor tentatively agrees with us, we decide to wait until our season ends, and then in the meantime Texas A&M decides to make a change after all, and steals him away from us.

If O'Connor is the guy, we need to announce him as soon as O'Connor is ready to commit, regardless of what's going on in our postseason. If anything, it might fire our program up some to know the big changes that are coming.

I agree. I totally understand waiting for the other guys team to be done.

But what difference will it make if we announced IF we were still playing. It?s not like we gonna get hot and win it all.

What would we lose by waiting other than time the new HC could be working the portal? Hell, if we are still playing he has a program to sell to these portal players.

[Quaoarsking]

I agree. I totally understand waiting for the other guys team to be done.

But what difference will it make if we announced IF we were still playing. It?s not like we gonna get hot and win it all.

What would we lose by waiting other than time the new HC could be working the portal? Hell, if we are still playing he has a program to sell to these portal players.

And even if we did, I'd still want O'Connor over Parker and would be happy to have the decision already formalized.

[Cooterpoot]

Worst case scenario is that O'Connor tentatively agrees with us, we decide to wait until our season ends, and then in the meantime Texas A&M decides to make a change after all, and steals him away from us.

If O'Connor is the guy, we need to announce him as soon as O'Connor is ready to commit, regardless of what's going on in our postseason. If anything, it might fire our program up some to know the big changes that are coming.

Also, O'Connor could go ahead and start talking to recruits and transfers next week rather than waiting 1, 2, or 3 more weeks.

He can sign a contract without it being announced

[Todd4State]

There is so much smoke around BOC right now that I have a hard time not believing he?s the guy. This feels different than when all the smoke on the football hire was around Jamey Chadwell. No one is shooting the idea of BOC down. Chadwell got shot down by at least one that covers the team early in the process while others kept pushing him as the priority.

The only place I saw that had Chadwell as a legit option was Robbie and Paul's board. I don't remember seeing it being posted much here at all unless it was someone saying that he wasn't coming and Steve pretty much shot it down the whole time. Which doesn't speak well for Waz unless Robbie has a lot better baseball contacts.

Worst case scenario is that O'Connor tentatively agrees with us, we decide to wait until our season ends, and then in the meantime Texas A&M decides to make a change after all, and steals him away from us.

If O'Connor is the guy, we need to announce him as soon as O'Connor is ready to commit, regardless of what's going on in our postseason. If anything, it might fire our program up some to know the big changes that are coming.

Also, O'Connor could go ahead and start talking to recruits and transfers next week rather than waiting 1, 2, or 3 more weeks.

Worse case scenario would be we hire O'Connor and then he pulls a Bill Bellichick move like he did with the Jets and still goes to A&M. I think that is a bit of a stretch to think that would happen because as far as I know O'Connor doesn't have ties to A&M, I'm not sure how he feels about them choosing Earley over him, and we weren't an option last time. There is a very good possibility that he would have picked us over A&M anyway. Yes, A&M has money but there is also a market and I don't think they would pay him 3 million if they can just pivot and get Rob Vaughn anyway.

He can sign a contract without it being announced

This is true. And it's true for other potential targets as well.

The reality is we are going to be in a regional and most of if not all of our prime targets are going to be in regionals as well. Once eliminations and things happen then we can go further along with the process.

[CaptainObvious]

He can sign a contract without it being announced

They could. But in today's social media environment, no way that remains a secret. If anyone signs before we are finished playing it will get out. Now, and agreement in principle may be kept quiet for a bit. But it will leak out if Selmon signs a coach before announcing it.

[Todd4State]

They could. But in today's social media environment, no way that remains a secret. If anyone signs before we are finished playing it will get out. Now, and agreement in principle may be kept quiet for a bit. But it will leak out if Selmon signs a coach before announcing it.

Yeah. If O'Connor resigns from Virginia while we're in a regional- it's going to be pretty obvious what is going to happen. LOL.

I do think- and this is the ONLY reason why I think it might be someone other than O'Connor- a lot of coaches are competitors first and foremost and do care about their players for the most part. (Unless they're Paul Manieri or Jimmy Bragan but I digress) and even if they are unhappy and want to move on most of them don't want a ton of rumors floating around out there. They don't want to have to answer questions like Schlossnagle had to answer last year in Omaha about job openings. That was a no win situation for Schlossnagle.

With O'Connor I'm not sure if the rumors would be out there if it wasn't for what happened LAST year. I think everyone knows he is looking and why- there have been literal articles basically confirming rumors about the situation there. So, I'm 100% sure he is interested. Plus in his case he may really want to stay but he knows he needs resources that they aren't willing to give him to sustain it and he may be using our job as a last ditch effort to get that.

Waz sounds to me like something being leaked by an agent.

Fitzgerald just seems like an obvious candidate that is our floor. I don't think it matters how he handles it because I doubt Kansas would do anything if we decided to hire him. We could probably pay him less than we paid Lemonis and he would still get a significant raise and they probably wouldn't even counter.

[Cooterpoot]

They could. But in today's social media environment, no way that remains a secret. If anyone signs before we are finished playing it will get out. Now, and agreement in principle may be kept quiet for a bit. But it will leak out if Selmon signs a coach before announcing it.

I'm talking if they're finished but we're still playing. He can sign a contract no problem and it not be released but you're right, his buyout part would be the problem, too many bourbons tonight

[DownwardDawg]

Virginia will still be playing next week, so I don't expect anything if OConner is really a candidate.
No way they get left out because they didn't get to play FSU due to the school shooting. I had forgotten about that but heard the announcer talking about it in this ACC tournament championship game.

[Tater]

I agree. I totally understand waiting for the other guys team to be done.

But what difference will it make if we announced IF we were still playing. It?s not like we gonna get hot and win it all.

What would we lose by waiting other than time the new HC could be working the portal? Hell, if we are still playing he has a program to sell to these portal players.

We absolutely have the talent to suddenly get hot and win it all. This is college baseball. If two pitchers find it (think Siary against OM level of finding it) and the softball lineup that we have mashes, then we're in Omaha.

[KB21]

Virginia will still be playing next week, so I don't expect anything if OConner is really a candidate.
No way they get left out because they didn't get to play FSU due to the school shooting. I had forgotten about that but heard the announcer talking about it in this ACC tournament championship game.

Both BA and D1 have Virginia out at this point.

[Cowbell]

I have continued to reiterate that O'Conner is most likely not the guy. But if he is, why are we that excited about a guy that can't even make a regional out of the ACC? I get that he has had great seasons. But it's a new day in college baseball and I feel like we need someone that is promising in the new environment.

[CaptainObvious]

I have continued to reiterate that O'Conner is most likely not the guy. But if he is, why are we that excited about a guy that can't even make a regional out of the ACC? I get that he has had great seasons. But it's a new day in college baseball and I feel like we need someone that is promising in the new environment.

We also have no idea if Lemonis could have turned things back around if he had been allowed to coach out the season. But the evidence was there that he had his best seasons with the majority of the team being recruited by someone else. The 7 trips Virginia has made to Omaha under O'Connor, most likely were his recruits. And oh yeah. They beat Lemonis reinvented State team last year with BoC recruits. They have had a good season but may get punished because the bottom half of their conference is worse than the bottom half of ours!

If we can sign any of the supposed Top 3 of O'Connor, Bakich, or Wasikowski, we "should be able to turn it around quickly and not have to go through a total rebuild!