Any attendance restrictions being discussed for football?

I am vaccinated and I stay at home if I feel sick and I wash my hands. I’m not going to social distance or wear a mask anywhere again for COVID. This virus is here to stay. Forever. I’m not wearing a mask for the entirety of my life because a bunch of virtue signaling idiots tell me to do it. I did what I was supposed to do. If people that do not want to get vaccinated keep dying I really do not care. It is not on me to make them do what they should do. Stop trying to protect people who do not want protection.

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I am vaccinated and I stay at home if I feel sick and I wash my hands. I’m not going to social distance or wear a mask anywhere again for COVID. This virus is here to stay. Forever. I’m not wearing a mask for the entirety of my life because a bunch of virtue signaling idiots tell me to do it. I did what I was supposed to do. If people that do not want to get vaccinated keep dying I really do not care. It is not on me to make them do what they should do. Stop trying to protect people who do not want protection.

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The case numbers themselves aren't a big deal, the important data is that almost nobody that's vaccinated is dying. We need everyone vaccinated, then who cares? But I've lost all patience for the anti-vaxers. It's been 8 months of vaccines rolling out and we have no side effects, so there's not even a feeble "we don't know what the long term consequences are" excuse.

Delta originated in India. Covid is here to stay, it will keep mutating, and those mutations will make their way here. We can't keep shutting down and masking over them; tell people to get vaccinated or risk death, and let the sane people get back to normal. I may get sick a week, but I won't die

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The case numbers themselves aren't a big deal, the important data is that almost nobody that's vaccinated is dying. We need everyone vaccinated, then who cares? But I've lost all patience for the anti-vaxers. It's been 8 months of vaccines rolling out and we have no side effects, so there's not even a feeble "we don't know what the long term consequences are" excuse.

Delta originated in India. Covid is here to stay, it will keep mutating, and those mutations will make their way here. We can't keep shutting down and masking over them; tell people to get vaccinated or risk death, and let the sane people get back to normal. I may get sick a week, but I won't die

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Agree. And I'll add those that already covid too. Vaccine and natural immunity are doing great!

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Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked

Yes if it was a naturally occurring virus. This is a man made virus created in a lab.

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https://media1.giphy.com/media/lp217...iphy.webp&ct=g

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Vaccines are an extra layer of protection. The virus is still very much there, and no vaccine is 100% effective. Vaccines work by telling your immune system to produce antibodies. Thus, when you are infected with a disease, you have immediate antibodies to the disease. Without a vaccine, your natural immune system takes about 1-3 weeks to develop antibodies to a disease. A lot of havoc can be wrought while your body is spending time creating antibodies.

It's not really surprising that we are seeing breakthrough cases of Covid in those vaccinated because there is high community spread in many places. We we all eventually be exposed to/get Covid in the next few years. The question is: do you want to get Covid with an extra layer of protection via vaccination or roll the dice without it?

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if you had a bad case of covid but recovered, would you get the vaccine?

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https://media1.giphy.com/media/lp217...iphy.webp&ct=g

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Remember you arguing with me that vaccinated rarely spread covid?

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if you had a bad case of covid but recovered, would you get the vaccine?

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According to when I had it

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Originally Posted by Jarius

I am vaccinated and I stay at home if I feel sick and I wash my hands. I?m not going to social distance or wear a mask anywhere again for COVID. This virus is here to stay. Forever. I?m not wearing a mask for the entirety of my life because a bunch of virtue signaling idiots tell me to do it. I did what I was supposed to do. If people that do not want to get vaccinated keep dying I really do not care. It is not on me to make them do what they should do. Stop trying to protect people who do not want protection.

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This is where I'm at. I'm vaccinated, so, even if I get it, it should be asymptotic/mild. If people want to remain unvaxxed and get Covid, that's their decision. I don't wish death/serious illness on anyone, but, if you play with fire long enough, you have to take on the consequences.

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Remember you arguing with me that vaccinated rarely spread covid?

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Yes? I was right then and still am. I think you have known for a very long time that rare doesn't mean never, right?

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According to when I had it

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Yes? I was right then and still am. I think you have known for a very long time that rare doesn't mean never, right?

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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/s...563759621?s=21

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If you're mid-30s or so, I'd prob go ahead and get it

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And get a N95 mask. Even Biden's covid czar today said these masks that everybody is wearing aren't doing anything. He said we need N95

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N95 are definitely better. Always has been. I would imagine any mask that is routinely cleaned and swapped out is better than no mask. Not for stopping inhaling but stopping your vapor from spreading.

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That's 1 interesting data point, but we have a whole world of evidence showing that vaccination makes people a whole lot less likely to get the disease and spread it.

In fact, since Provincetown is one of the most liberal, and vaccinated places in America, Bayes Theorem predicts this result because there are so few unvaccinated people there to begin with.

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That is one place. For all you know there was a giant orgy going on. Give me statistics from the 10,000 hospitalized yesterday in Florida and we will talk.

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That is one place. For all you know there was a giant orgy going on. Give me statistics from the 10,000 hospitalized yesterday in Florida and we will talk.

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I absolutely believe that the vaccine reduces hospitalizations. I do not agree that it prevents spread. Why are Israel's cases steadily going up (highest 7-day avg since March) with their outstanding vaccination rate?

The cdc said yesterday that vaccinated, while less likely to contract covid, are just as likely to spread covid as unvaccinated if they do contract it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/leaked-cdc-presentation-reassuring-vaccinated-people-2021-7%3famp

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I absolutely believe that the vaccine reduces hospitalizations. I do not agree that it prevents spread. Why are Israel's cases steadily going up (highest 7-day avg since March) with their outstanding vaccination rate?

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b/c the delta variant is nearly 3x more contagious than the covid-19 strain of last summer.

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For all you know there was a giant orgy going on.

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You've been to P-Town, I take it.**