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    Any attendance restrictions being discussed for football?

    Delta cranking up in the state and all the SE.

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    Not football related but we were informed this morning that while in the building, all UPS employees must wear a mask regardless of vaccination status.

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    I could see masks being required to pass through the gates and while walking around the concourse. But I don't think any attendance restrictions will be done. But that's just my guess. I think we'll just have to see what the numbers look like in two weeks. I mean if they're just as bad, or worse it could happen.

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    Virus will be with us from now on. Just have to learn to live with it.

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    I doubt it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Virus will be with us from now on. Just have to learn to live with it.
    Yep. Everyone needs to get the vaccine. Wash your hands. Wear mask when in public. Socially distance when possible. Stay at home when you are feeling bad. Wash your hands.
    When you cut through all the political nonsense, there are four small things that we has fellow humans in a society can control.
    1. Socially Distance
    2. Get the vaccine and any boosters available.
    3. Wash your hands.
    4. Wear a mask when you are indoors.

    Period. Those are it. That is what we can do to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and other people. Simple. So, so simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Yep. Everyone needs to get the vaccine. Wash your hands. Wear mask when in public. Socially distance when possible. Stay at home when you are feeling bad. Wash your hands.
    When you cut through all the political nonsense, there are four small things that we has fellow humans in a society can control.
    1. Socially Distance
    2. Get the vaccine and any boosters available.
    3. Wash your hands.
    4. Wear a mask when you are indoors.

    Period. Those are it. That is what we can do to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and other people. Simple. So, so simple.
    And get a N95 mask. Even Biden's covid czar today said these masks that everybody is wearing aren't doing anything. He said we need N95

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Delta cranking up in the state and all the SE.
    Yep.

    Less than 40% is pitiful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Yep.

    Less than 40% is pitiful.

    I agree, but it did hit in this area hard this time of year last year too. Florida is at their all time peak today in hospitalizations at ~50% vaccination rate. Their previous peak in hospitalizations was basically 1 year ago, July 23rd, 2020.

    Hell, just checked NY year to day 7-day avg case, and this was their down time last year...

    Aug 1st, 2020: 771
    Aug 1st, 2021: 2472
    Up 220.6%, 57% vaccination rate

    I'm vaccinated FWIW

    ETA... in heavily vaccinated Israel, cases year to date are up 26.8%

    Aug 1, 2020: 1649
    Aug 1, 2021: 2089

    Delta is not playing...
    Last edited by msstate7; 08-02-2021 at 03:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Yep. Everyone needs to get the vaccine. Wash your hands. Wear mask when in public. Socially distance when possible. Stay at home when you are feeling bad. Wash your hands.
    When you cut through all the political nonsense, there are four small things that we has fellow humans in a society can control.
    1. Socially Distance
    2. Get the vaccine and any boosters available.
    3. Wash your hands.
    4. Wear a mask when you are indoors.

    Period. Those are it. That is what we can do to protect ourselves, our loved ones, and other people. Simple. So, so simple.
    Serious Question - not trying to start a war.

    First - #1 and #3 are true for any airborne contagion. #4 is only helpful with the right mask which virtually no one wears.

    Note: I am vaxxed as it was a requirement to keep my job.

    Question - Many of the reports I've seen lately indicate that there is little to no difference in likelihood of catching and/or spreading covid for vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. The data does seem to show that the severity of catching covid is much less for the vaxxed. So, I can see where vaxxed vs un-vaxxed could impact hospitalization rates and deaths. But, (question time) does it really impact the actual spread?

    People are crying for everyone to get vaxxed so others don't get it. That seems to be the wrong motivational tool. Get vaxxed to stay out of the hospital-check, get vaxxed so it doesn't kill you - check, get vaxxed to stop the spread - not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Yep.

    Less than 40% is pitiful.

    50% of persons over 18 have at least one dose.
    That's better than I would have thought honestly, and why our death numbers should stay down relative to January.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Virus will be with us from now on. Just have to learn to live with it.
    Maybe but I don't think we know yet. It was manmade so lasting recycle still yet to be seen.

    Delta started in India with over a billion people and it went thru India in a month or two and now herd immunity and everything kinda back semi normal there. We will spike but could return back down. Herd immunity is nearing our nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Maybe but I don't think we know yet. It was manmade so lasting recycle still yet to be seen.

    Delta started in India with over a billion people and it went thru India in a month or two and now herd immunity and everything kinda back semi normal there. We will spike but could return back down. Herd immunity is nearing our nation.
    We thinking we peak around Labor Day? Little before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWADAWG View Post
    Serious Question - not trying to start a war.

    First - #1 and #3 are true for any airborne contagion. #4 is only helpful with the right mask which virtually no one wears.

    Note: I am vaxxed as it was a requirement to keep my job.

    Question - Many of the reports I've seen lately indicate that there is little to no difference in likelihood of catching and/or spreading covid for vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. The data does seem to show that the severity of catching covid is much less for the vaxxed. So, I can see where vaxxed vs un-vaxxed could impact hospitalization rates and deaths. But, (question time) does it really impact the actual spread?

    People are crying for everyone to get vaxxed so others don't get it. That seems to be the wrong motivational tool. Get vaxxed to stay out of the hospital-check, get vaxxed so it doesn't kill you - check, get vaxxed to stop the spread - not so much.
    Problem is there are 100million immune people who had Covid that CDC does not recognize yet every credible medical institution does. The latest CDC study showed 74% of people got Covid that had Vax. My doctor told me that there were only a few hundred cases nationwide of anyone actually having Covid twice. Way better than vax. Again, the shot is not a vax either, it says so on the paperwork.

    God's immune system is always better than a manmade one. I'm not anti vax, pro for those at high risk but need to actually stick to the science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    And get a N95 mask. Even Biden's covid czar today said these masks that everybody is wearing aren't doing anything. He said we need N95
    And my place of employment has banned n95 masks. Won't let us use them. I will assume that will still be the case if/when we go back to a mask mandate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    We thinking we peak around Labor Day? Little before?
    The first two spikes lasted around 2 months. We're right at a month into this one. If history is true to course we should be seeing numbers go back down around Labor Day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeshouldveflanked View Post
    Virus will be with us from now on. Just have to learn to live with it.
    Eventually it will mutate it self to a point it is nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R2Dawg View Post
    Problem is there are 100million immune people who had Covid that CDC does not recognize yet every credible medical institution does. The latest CDC study showed 74% of people got Covid that had Vax. My doctor told me that there were only a few hundred cases nationwide of anyone actually having Covid twice. Way better than vax. Again, the shot is not a vax either, it says so on the paperwork.

    God's immune system is always better than a manmade one. I'm not anti vax, pro for those at high risk but need to actually stick to the science.
    Vaccines are an extra layer of protection. The virus is still very much there, and no vaccine is 100% effective. Vaccines work by telling your immune system to produce antibodies. Thus, when you are infected with a disease, you have immediate antibodies to the disease. Without a vaccine, your natural immune system takes about 1-3 weeks to develop antibodies to a disease. A lot of havoc can be wrought while your body is spending time creating antibodies.

    It's not really surprising that we are seeing breakthrough cases of Covid in those vaccinated because there is high community spread in many places. We we all eventually be exposed to/get Covid in the next few years. The question is: do you want to get Covid with an extra layer of protection via vaccination or roll the dice without it?
    Last edited by Dawg2003; 08-02-2021 at 05:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    Eventually it will mutate it self to a point it is nothing.
    Yes if it was a naturally occurring virus. This is a man made virus created in a lab.

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    Created in a lab? Okay.

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