PS: Winning 6 with our schedule this year and going to one of about 100 bowls is not that big a deal anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
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PS: Winning 6 with our schedule this year and going to one of about 100 bowls is not that big a deal anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
I think so too. Ultimately I think that's what it comes down to. Can Cohen find a guy he has more confidence in to build the program going forward? I think there are plenty of guys out there right now that would fit that bill...Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Rick Ray never had a winning record.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Rick Ray didn't come into MSU with Stans' 2004 team waiting for him either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Slomo only has a winning record by default. So don't try going to use that straw man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Keep Jo and he will have a losing record in another year and the team will regress even more. Man, we have some low expectations all of a sudden. This is no longer the MSU of 6-6 or worse is fine long as we beat Ole Miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Rick Ray didn't have Dampier, Super D, Bullard, Big Country, and Greg Carter waiting for him to coach in his 1st season also. JoVester walked into thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
Our schedule? Weve played the toughest schedule in the country by one service and top 5 by every service.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
http://powerrankingsguru.com/college...f-schedule.php
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fbsched...k-12-2019/amp/
Correct bama LSU auburn A&M only us ark and ole miss have to do that... . Then we managed to gag uT and lose to KSU at home and yeah yeah I know they beat Ou. That's not a good team, the big 12 sucks. They tried to give it to us and we still lostQuote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
That's an overall rating. So you are ok with us losing to that powerhouse TN at the time of the game and our "genius coach" having two weeks to prepare for that game. How about our home loss to KSU that recruits players ranked so much higher than us?*** bama and LSU better be glad they don't have ACU this Sat. Hey and I guess you have no hope that we can or should beat that 4-7 UM. These are 4 games we should not have lost or lose and that gives us a predicted 8-4 record. If you you lived it, guess you were ok with Tech and 10. Talk about low expectations and making overall strength of schedule be an excuse. If we win the next two and go 6-6, what's our signature victory over this bunch of tough teams*? Hail State and at 6-6 we are the best of a bunch of weak sisters and looked worse and worse beating these "heavy weights" under Jo who has been a fish out of water since KY last year!Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
While I think our AD staff is lazy in general and Cohen has no clue about anything other than baseball and may be taken advantage of by the current staff....I think they still want to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
If we're talking about fair- what Joe has put out on the football field and off has been unfair to the MSU family. Don't roll up to a 6-6 Tennessee team while looking unprepared and then bring up that your daughter was crying because some fan in the stands yelled that you suck. It's also unfair to the football players to have this kind of leadership and preparation for gamedays.
Here's reality:Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
Yeah- we do play a tough schedule. And no it doesn't excuse losing to Tennessee or K-State. Or being blown out multiple times.
But I also think that the fact that we have that kind of schedule and still have a chance to go 6-6 with everything that is going on is pretty encouraging.
They were by no means 6-6, but your point is correct. I know it was hot when my son and I were at the KSU game trying to give away 6 very good Section 4 tickets to State fans without, but I was totally shocked and disgusted that they were going for $5 outside DWS. I think Jo took a few tips from Croom's book on coaching at MSU. Burn everything to the ground, even some good you inherited, ( alot in Jo's case) and be as stubborn and full of bull with coach-speak as you can. Examples from Jo: Before the bama game, "our offense has averaged 42 ppg the last two games, ( yeah garbage time in the last loss and a win against Arky), and never forget after an 82 yard offensive passing explosion against bama. We will fix that this week. Well, my hopes were not very high as it is game 11 Sat. He will think we faced a top 4 team if we move the ball against AC. Championship Standards, shelf space for Heismans, ring sizes. Bet he interviewed well with the IB. What a under achieving joke!
And who of that still not achieved 6 wins is a good team? I'm soon to be 65 and we beat that 6, and one of them was Ole Miss is no longer acceptable. BTW, there were not many style points in some of these yet to be achieved 6 wins. Bar sure got low in a hurry this year and last. Hail State!Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
It sounds like you are more worried about what other people think and you hate change out of fear. Cause I know there isn't anyone dumb enough that can think he has this thing headed in the right direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
So you'd be willing to risk falling further down this hell hole (Arkansas) out of fear of making a bad hire, which we already have done? That's paralysis by analysis if I've ever seen it.
Or else you think SloMo is the man for the job. I'd love to hear you try and sell me on that.
I'm not sure what you are asking. My opinion is we are a good team that is probably an 8 win caliber team that has been coached down to six wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goldendawg
If you're talking about our schedule:
ULL- Might win the Sun Belt and probably wins at least 10 games with losses to us and Appalachain State. Heck- a lot of us want their coach.
USM- 7-3 with losses to MSU and Alabama and La Tech who is first in their division in C-USA. USM could win a co-championship in their division with La Tech and is probably an 8 win team at worst.
Kentucky- Pretty much a lock to go 6-6 at worst and their coach is a candidate for the FSU job.
K-State- 6-4 with losses to Oklahoma State, Texas, Baylor, and West Virginia and have a very nice win over Oklahoma. Have a first year coach and I think they win at least seven games this year.
Auburn- An 8 win team at worst and they may pull 9 with Tua out.
Tennessee- Almost a lock for 6 wins at worst and could pull 7 if they beat Mizzou.
LSU- Undefeated and could win the SEC and National Title.
Texas A&M- I think they end up 7-5 with a meat grinder of a schedule meaning they're probably better than their record- had to play Clemson, LSU, Georgia, and Alabama.
Arkansas- LOL. 2-8 and we blew them out.
Alabama- One loss team that may end up in the playoffs. No worse than 10-2 because their QB is out. Still have a chance at 11-1.
Abeline Christian- FCS team
Ole Miss- 4-7 at the moment.
That's a very difficult schedule any way you cut it.
We are always going to have a tough schedule. We play in the SEC West.
People play both ways in basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Dude, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
not seeing the problem? JoVester also inherited the SEC’s all-time leading rusher at QB, a one thousand yard rusher in Williams along with a probable NFL talent in Hill. 2 linemen that are now in the NFL- one considered to be the top rookie OL guy. Plus he will have another drafted this year- so that’s 3 NFL linemen of the 5 he started last year. Then add Green plus the WR’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpooldawg
8 returning offensive starters from an offense that was ranked 41st in the country in 2017. Yeah- poor JoVester