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I think tosu and uga are the only 2 programs with enough talent to be considered a decent bet to knock off bama and/or clemson. That doesn't mean other teams can't/won't, it just means anyone else besides tosu and uga would need to play a near perfect game while bama/clemson to bring their C game and it'd be considered a monumental upset. Even programs like Michigan and LSU would be no more than a ~20% to knock off bama/clemson right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
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Originally Posted by msstate7
Oklahoma or Texas will be in playoff contention, but neither have the defensive talent right now to be a good upset pick against bama/clemson imo. They might hang around awhile or scare them for 3 quarters, but at some point they'll need to get stops/turnovers and they can't unless bama just fumbles the ball all game like the OM games from a few years back. Bama/clemson are just as dangerous on offense and have a defense stocked with future NFL players, so they could actually be relied on to get a big stop or turnover.
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Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
Clemson ain't bama/tosu historically speaking, but they do have a natty from the 80s, a big ass stadium that's filled every week, and a killer local recruiting footprint. They were easily a top 15-20 program historically speaking prior to the run under dabo.
You are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
....and they made a good hire with Dabo and elevated their program. My point was while there may only be 3-5 teams with a chance to win it this year. There could be many more that could make things more interesting if they got their sh** together. USC, UCLA, Texas, ND, Mich And Miami are underachieving in my opinion. But then there is a 100 programs with zero chance, probably ever.
If they'd gone undefeated in any legit conference and/or had an SOS a lot better than 72 , they woulda been in the mix... Had '17 UCF played MSU's schedule, they wouldn't have had enough players left to field a competitive team come bowl season, much less go undefeated.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaleofTwoDogs
Competition/SOS is not going to ever be an issue with you guys (or any SEC program)... ever...
Just because of our name, I think the college football talking heads willQuote:
Originally Posted by TUSK
Always scrutinized our OCC schedule if we are ever in a position such as 2014 again.
We weren’t getting in at 11-1 in 2014. (OCC was USM, UAB, USA and UTMartin.). But that was because Herbstreet and tv wanted OhSt.
Sure we can rotate the 5-6 legit contender spots every few years among a handful of programs depending on who is going thru a coaching change or a run of underperforming classes, but the point is that it seems like any given season the pool of teams competing for the top is very very very limited. Could bama cycle down when Saban steps down? Sure, but simply sliding LSU into bama's slot and letting them be a regular natty contender every year for an extended run isn't the type competitive balance I am taking about when I wanna see more competitive balance in CFB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen
I hate to see college football become predictable and boring. Thank God for the NFL.
My opinion is simple: if a game is not competitive, then it's not worth watching or even caring about. With the simple solution of scholarship reduction there for the taking, I wonder whether the NCAA is on a secret suicide mission.
They may have snuck into the bottom of the top 20, but they were in no way easily in the top 15ish.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgs
Alabama
Ohio State
Michigan
USC
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Nebraska
Texas
Florida
Florida State
LSU
Miami
Penn State
Tennessee
Georgia
Auburn
That is 16 programs who were all clearly ahead of Clemson.
I agree. I haven't gone out of my way to watch any of our shit non-conference games since I was at state 15+ years ago and games were social outings. Too much life to live for me to set aside 3+ hours to watch us beat Tulane 50-7 and still have no idea if we are 6-7 win good or 9+ win good. And anyone who says that we've lost games like Tulane before, that's true and when we lose those kinda games I am definitely happy I didn't waste my time on that shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by drunkernhelldawg
"Easily top 15-20" means they are in that range. Thanks for proving my point by actually taking the time to go thru programs and list them out. But really, after that list, who is left? Programs like UCLA, Arkansas, a&m, Michigan st, Wisconsin, and Pittsburgh are the type of programs usually ranked in the late teens/early 20s of best all time programs, and pre-dabo, clemson was ahead of most or all of them and definitively is ahead of them now.Quote:
Originally Posted by smootness
That said, clemson and uga look awfully similar (1 natty in the early 80s and lots of underachieving since). Clemson beat uga on getting back to the top of the mountain. I do think uga gets to the top soon though and if I was power ranking programs right now for the next 5 years it's bama 1, clemson 1a and tosu and uga a coin flip at 3/4.
Well Dan had TWO years that he should have won Bama......period.
Notre Dame should not be allowed in the playoff any longer. I blame the lack of competition solely on that farce. WSU, UGA, Texas, Florida, Ohio State would've beaten them in the playoff last year. I know that UGA didn't care in their bowl game vs Texas.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
People forget that the final score was 45-34 Bama over Oklahoma. That was an enjoyable semifinal. I do think WSU, UGA, Texas, Florida, Ohio State would've given Clemson a more competitive semi game.
To me, the 7 preseason teams probably represents the winner from each of the power 5 + a few others that have all of the best QBs that distribute the ball. The goal is the best 4 of the 7 so you know you're going to see the best QB play. it doesn't matter if one has a loss or two.
****ing notre dame really ruined the entire perception last year. the two semis & NC 2 years ago were awesome. Well, except that, a running QB in Kelly Bryant shit the bed, as expected, vs Bama.