Moorhead Interview

Joe's tenure at Akron is more proof to me that James Franklin had him on a short leash offensively. Franklin helped him pack for Starkville and even programmed the GPS so he'd get there. I've heard from a Penn State alum that Franklin gave Joe ten plays to call and that was it. He used those ten plays and let Saquon Barkley be Saquon Barkley.

F that guy!

First time in my life more head (Moorhead) was a bad thing

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Originally Posted by Mjoelner34

F that guy!

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Yep! Dude sucks as an HC. Nothing worth even listening to.

I'm cool with never hearing his name again.

I don’t know why Joe’s opinion matters to us anymore. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt , didn’t fit, threw it in the trash.

**** that dude.

When you tell your assistant coaches- "I'd rather lose than win running that shit" you get fired. I'm pissed we had to pay you millions to leave.

He immediately lost all credibility when he only won 8 games with the 2018 roster we had. #1 defense wasted on his terrible offense.

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Originally Posted by Matt3467

We had the #1 defense statistically in 2018 but our offense was really bad which was weird since his supposed calling card was offense. Losing as bad as we did to KY sucked but it was Florida that threw me off the bandwagon plus we scored a combined 9 points against FL, AL, and LSU. Ole Miss also gift wrapped him a win. We average 7.6 wins per year with Mullen so saying 7 was a little disingenuous which I overlooked but then to go on and say "the coach after me went 19-17" which was Leach was imo another thing he shouldn't have said as not only did he die and not get fired but he had a better year with lesser talent than Moorhead had here. Plus he was 19-16 not 19-17. Also I wonder what Moorhead's final tally would be here if he had to play a full year vs the SEC.

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I agree. Losing to Mullen on his return to Starkville with our clearly more talented roster turned me. I held out hope until then.

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

I don?t know why Joe?s opinion matters to us anymore. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt , didn?t fit, threw it in the trash.

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It?s obvious. He?s talking bad about the university that paid him a lot of money to get the 17 out.

Joe Moorhead owes Saquon Barkley a lot of money, because without that guy, Joe doesn't amount to much of anything

Moorhead was worse than Croom, by a lot.

I'm convinced he didnt even look at tape of our team before he came here.

He came here thinking "I'm from Penn State. This is Miss State who is never any good. They should be happy with whatever they get."

He had:

1) The Nations best defense
2) The top running QB in SEC history (i think)

and he ran that offense to 8-5. Absolutely brutal.

The irony is that team was Mullen's best chance to win a Natty and he left it. People may think that is crazy but its not.

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

Moorhead was worse than Croom, by a lot.

I'm convinced he didnt even look at tape of our team before he came here.

He came here thinking "I'm from Penn State. This is Miss State who is never any good. They should be happy with whatever they get."

He had:

1) The Nations best defense
2) The top running QB in SEC history (i think)

and he ran that offense to 8-5. Absolutely brutal.

The irony is that team was Mullen's best chance to win a Natty and he left it. People may think that is crazy but its not.

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My guess is he thought he could make Fitzgerald into a better passer. Not having the portal to add WR's hurt us that year too.

Given what he had he should have adjusted better because we had players to work with. That or hired a coach with a similar system as Dan.

I don't think your last sentence is crazy at all.

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Originally Posted by Extendedcab

I don’t know why Joe’s opinion matters to us anymore. Been there, done that, got the tee shirt , didn’t fit, threw it in the trash.

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Well, what he said about MSU in the interview was misleading at best and it sounds to me like he is blaming us for having too high expectations. He deserves to be called out by MSU fans because he wasn't fired for losing to Ole Miss and really he wasn't even fired for not winning games. He was fired because he lost control of the team and MSU realized it was only going to get worse if he remained. Did he mention anything about Tutor Gate? No. Any mention of the Gay/Shrader fight and players missing bowl practice and the team hotel smelling like Cheech and Chong rented it out for the week? Nope. I give MSU credit for firing him because any other time in our football history we would have retained him for getting to a bowl and beating Ole Miss. And that game he beat Ole Miss? Yeah- the one his team almost pissed away at the end because we let an Ole Miss receiver get behind our secondary on fourth and forever? And only won because Ole Miss decided to try to make fun of MSU and karma beat them? Good job Joe.**

And then to say that Leach wasn't any better than he was when Leach had to clean up his mess and left MSU because he passed away after cleaning up his mess is kind of shitty on several different levels.

And even Arnett- he may be better as a head coach than Zach but that's very debatable. Arnett was essentially fired for the same reasons Joe was except Zach's stuff was mostly kept in MSU circles. Zach switched up the offense and failed because it didn't fit the players. And yes, Barbay's offense was statistically worse than Joe's so I guess I'll ask Moorhead what his shiny turd size is and send him a trophy. And just like Joe, Zach was losing control of the team. And just like 2019 MSU intervened. That said- at least Arnett has a better excuse for failing given the situation.

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Originally Posted by cheewgumm

Moorhead was worse than Croom, by a lot.

I'm convinced he didnt even look at tape of our team before he came here.

He came here thinking "I'm from Penn State. This is Miss State who is never any good. They should be happy with whatever they get."

He had:

1) The Nations best defense
2) The top running QB in SEC history (i think)

and he ran that offense to 8-5. Absolutely brutal.

The irony is that team was Mullen's best chance to win a Natty and he left it. People may think that is crazy but its not.

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I will say this about Croom. If we had him coaching the team in 2018 with the exact same players he would have either won as many or more with that team as Joe did. And I think there is very good chance that Croom would have won at least two more games with that team.

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Originally Posted by TrapGame

Joe's tenure at Akron is more proof to me that James Franklin had him on a short leash offensively. Franklin helped him pack for Starkville and even programmed the GPS so he'd get there. I've heard from a Penn State alum that Franklin gave Joe ten plays to call and that was it. He used those ten plays and let Saquon Barkley be Saquon Barkley.

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Not a bad way to do it in college. That worked for Leach for years.

I will say that may or may not be changing some with the new rules for offseason practice with OTAs and communication in the QB's helmet.

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

Well, what he said about MSU in the interview was misleading at best and it sounds to me like he is blaming us for having too high expectations. He deserves to be called out by MSU fans because he wasn't fired for losing to Ole Miss and really he wasn't even fired for not winning games. He was fired because he lost control of the team and MSU realized it was only going to get worse if he remained. Did he mention anything about Tutor Gate? No. Any mention of the Gay/Shrader fight and players missing bowl practice and the team hotel smelling like Cheech and Chong rented it out for the week? Nope. I give MSU credit for firing him because any other time in our football history we would have retained him for getting to a bowl and beating Ole Miss. And that game he beat Ole Miss? Yeah- the one his team almost pissed away at the end because we let an Ole Miss receiver get behind our secondary on fourth and forever? And only won because Ole Miss decided to try to make fun of MSU and karma beat them? Good job Joe.**

And then to say that Leach wasn't any better than he was when Leach had to clean up his mess and left MSU because he passed away after cleaning up his mess is kind of shitty on several different levels.

And even Arnett- he may be better as a head coach than Zach but that's very debatable. Arnett was essentially fired for the same reasons Joe was except Zach's stuff was mostly kept in MSU circles. Zach switched up the offense and failed because it didn't fit the players. And yes, Barbay's offense was statistically worse than Joe's so I guess I'll ask Moorhead what his shiny turd size is and send him a trophy. And just like Joe, Zach was losing control of the team. And just like 2019 MSU intervened. That said- at least Arnett has a better excuse for failing given the situation.

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Facts. If we didn?t get pissed when a former coach talks shit about us then what does that say about the fan base?

I?m sure LSU fans would be thrilled if Curley Hallman talked shit about expectations and the school.

Croom and Joe can go 17 themselves. They are both hard headed douche bags who are wealthy thanks to MSU and its fans.

DICKHEAD can pound sand and kick rocks until hell freezes over! That is all!

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Originally Posted by Todd4State

My guess is he thought he could make Fitzgerald into a better passer. Not having the portal to add WR's hurt us that year too.

Given what he had he should have adjusted better because we had players to work with. That or hired a coach with a similar system as Dan.

I don't think your last sentence is crazy at all.

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That's twice in the last decade that we had teams set up to win based on a certain offensive system/style, and instead elected to overhaul the system entirely in year 1. It's the epitome of stupidity, and it's why we're where we are instead of where we want to be. We've done this to ourselves, and now we're staring at a complete rebuild under a new coach and just hoping to win 4, 5 or 6 games instead of expecting to be in the 7 to 10 win range. Our ADs, President, and "Cigar Boys" have failed at almost every turn (football wise) since 2017.

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Originally Posted by PMDawg

That's twice in the last decade that we had teams set up to win based on a certain offensive system/style, and instead elected to overhaul the system entirely in year 1. It's the epitome of stupidity, and it's why we're where we are instead of where we want to be. We've done this to ourselves, and now we're staring at a complete rebuild under a new coach and just hoping to win 4, 5 or 6 games instead of expecting to be in the 7 to 10 win range. Our ADs, President, and "Cigar Boys" have failed at almost every turn (football wise) since 1948.

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