I hope you are right, it?s not like he lit up the scoreboard at OU the last two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Young dawg
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I hope you are right, it?s not like he lit up the scoreboard at OU the last two years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Young dawg
So now you are moving the goalposts. Now it is well he always loses his best receiver but how many had eligibility. Like dude, this is the portal era. Someone is going to have 65/900/7 in this offense next year. And someone else is going to have 45/550/4. My money is on Sheffield being that first number and Anderson being the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
We loaded up with transfers last year (19) to get to 2-10, so it isn't like upgrading is a givenQuote:
Originally Posted by msu15
Hopefully you're right. You weren't on carver and Coleman, and unlike everyone here, I think they're pretty big lossesQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
ETA... and I'm not trying to come across as calling you out on missing on craver and Coleman. I appreciate you guys that tell what you know, and I realize no one knows what these kids will do.
I want Arnold BAD now that we lost MVB, but yeah, I'm not sure why anyone would follow Arnold here. The Arnold smoke certainly hasn't helped us retain good WRsQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I was never sure on Craver. I had gotten mixed signals. I will admit I was wrong on Coleman. We got played on that one unfortunatelyQuote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Proximity to home is what got us. We offered him everything he wanted except for proximity to home.
There is nothing MSU could do about a player's local school offering him and a player wanting to go home.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
It would be no different than us offering a player from Jackson an opportunity to play at MSU that is at Kentucky and we get that player.
Not sure I want a guy who is suspended a couple of times back anyway. Especially at slot WR which is very expendable.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I get where you are coming from, but you also have to realize this year most of his receivers were hurt and he was running a different scheme. He played pretty well with the opportunities he had when lebby was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
This is a big get. Much needed help in a position of need.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
The reality is receiver is one of the easiest positions to replace.
Focus on the trenches and securing your QB and WR takes care of itself
But supposedly we are improving the defense. We will hold teams to 3-6 fewer points next year. Who cares if we lose our big play ability on offense because the defense will be better. You see, it's all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Jaron Glover is visiting tomorrow. He?s exactly the type of WR that will produce big numbers in this system.
Glover can be a really solid 2 for us. If you could pull him, Anderson, and Sheffield then you have not only replaced Coleman and Craver but you have gotten better.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB21
Jalen Smith visit tomorrow is really important. If it goes well I think we get him. He would be a plug and play starter.
What are the chances we land the Tulsa receiver?
I really do not know where he is on our board. I had heard he was lower, but Rosebowl seems to believe he is higher. So we shall see on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Young dawg
Inversely, I have been hearing we were much higher on Sheffield than he seems to think we are.
Malik Murphy has been rpm to Auburn by On3.
Redd Hibbler is a big pick up
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What is the confidence on it?? There is some smoke coming out that he will commit before leaving tomorrow so this follows that. I said yesterday I was still 50/50 the Auburn visit even happened for Arnold.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Maybe Auburn can get Murphy and Arnold.
Arnold will not visit if Murphy commits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Yeah it?s fun to say all we have to do is this or that to rebound until we don?t do any of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yes it?s possible we replace him but also 100% just as possible we don?t. Now we have to start all the way over basically on a WR1 HOPING we can get an impact player who can come in on day one and fill the role of someone who was proven in this system and ready for a big year. And that will just get us back to where we were before Coleman dipped.
Watch Moneyball. It's the same principle. What it comes down to is finding someone or someones that can match production. Can we find someone that can get 900+ yards of receiving and 6 TD's out of the portal? IF we improve the QB position and the offensive line- VERY possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...6/dt-sheffield
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Originally Posted by Todd4State
Lolz. Yeah... the concept isn't hard to understand. MSU's execution is the problem.
We still likely have to wait 3-4 games (maybe more) into the season for things to gel for a player like DT. IF we even get him. How do you recoup that?
Losing our two best receivers and our QB to the portal is clown show level bad. That is all
Is there a timeline today on when we will know if Arnold takes the visit or not?
I suspect if no news of Murphy committing he's going to visit Auburn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
Assume he is unless you hear something about Murphy. Let me go ahead and get this out there though, HE IS STILL COMING HERE AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED. We have known about the Auburn stuff since he entered. They are paying QBs to visit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
Every year it's been a new WR. Doesn't matter whether it's because of eligibility expiring or they transfer or get hurt, he's replaced the prior year's WR production.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Gave any of those guys done in anything in the nfl, or are they like Moore and got to the NFL because of college production in Lebby's offense and then never did anything in the nfl? I don't know.
Receivers are receivers. If you don?t get Arnold then losing MVB is bad. If you do, it?s a wash. We?re not Ole Miss. we aren?t losing production off of a 9-3 or 10-2 team. Of course we wanted to keep Coleman, but him and MVB won us 0 games. I don?t care how you spin about the defense was this bad, blah, blah, blah. MVB could not throw a slant, had poor pocket presence and his best game was against Georgia, which he regressed after. We were boat raced by a middling, at best, Arkansas team. If everyone left and I mean EVERYONE it could likely not be worse than this year. Arizona state basically replaced their entire team and is now in a playoff. The sky is not falling. We?re just behind the 8 ball because of stupid decisions from Cohen and Keenum. It will be fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dawgology
If it's only for the money, why would he not visit once Murphy commits....Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
When I heard that, that is when I realized he ain't locked up. You guys saying he is are crazy. Their is still a good chance he comes here. But it ain't 90%.
Davis 5 seasons: 2,969 yds, 29 td (2nd contract)Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Moore 4 seasons: 2,105 yds, 9 td (will get 2nd cont)
Mims rookie: 267 yds, 2 td
Down playing every wr to give Lebby all the credit is strange. These guys are good players, and so is Coleman. Lebby has certainly proven to be a good OC also.
He?s saying he?s still gonna visit unless Murphy commits to themQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
That sounds like more than just for money then. If it's for the money, visit anyway, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck3124
The poor ole's are trying to convince themselves that we aren't really in it for Arnold because we are Mississippi State. We can't possibly get a QB of this caliber to come here no matter what his relationship with Jeff Lebby is.
We're certainly in it. Some of us also realize it isn't a sure thing until he commits/signs/whateverQuote:
Originally Posted by KB21
They would not need to pay him at that point. They have their QB. Visit would be cancelled by them, not Jackson.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7