Game Thread: beat the corn dog edition

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

The fact that our coaches have watched every snap that Wright has taken and have decided that Will gives us the best chance to win, tells me all I need to know about Wright as a starter.

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You trust THIS coaching staff???

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

The group we returned a lot of (front 6) is what's really sucking. That and the schemes/playcalls. Like the front is getting blown back for 8 yard runs up the guy and getting ZERO pressure. DBs are being put in bad spots due to covering for long times, being told to give 10 yard cushions, and having safeties cover Nabors. That's not their fault.

Seriously though, the DL is terribly coached. They have ZERO moves. Not a bull rush, swim move, twist, no hands, etc. They just get beat every play.

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We've recruited poorly on both lines. A ton of soft OL were signed. Several are gone already. Coaches refuse to put best players on the field too. Bell is better than Cam.

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Originally Posted by CadaverDawg

Yeah, it attracted a bunch of guys that couldn't beat out this Millsaps backup we have starting.

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Can't argue this one. Historically Leach wasn't recruiting the top tier folks at either position, other than Crabtree.

He was a do more with less coach, which is also Dan Mullen. We need another one of those now. But I will add ... Mullen made damn sure to get the top Dlinemen in the state.

Losing Wheat and Forbes has hurt us worse than we know.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

Can't argue this one. Historically Leach wasn't recruiting the top tier folks at either position, other than Crabtree.

He was a do more with less coach, which is also Dan Mullen. We need another one of those now. But I will add ... Mullen made damn sure to get the top Dlinemen in the state.

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Agree

Will is trash. 1 play doesn't dispell it. He goes to the top of his drop and stands there. He never steps into the pocket which gives any edge rusher an easy sack. Most of the sacks are his fault. He never throws the ball away and always a sitting duck.

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Losing Wheat and Forbes has hurt us worse than we know.

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It really did. We don't have anybody with instincts in the secondary.

If you flipped daniels and will, this game is closer

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Losing Wheat and Forbes has hurt us worse than we know.

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Again, if our only issue was lack of pass rush and a CB getting burned I'd agree.

But we look awful everywhere, and the playcalling makes no sense. We have bigger problems than JUST lack of talent

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

You trust THIS coaching staff???

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Lol. Great point. And no.....

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Originally Posted by parabrave

Losing Wheat and Forbes has hurt us worse than we know.

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Until we have someone at the most important position on the field that can be a threat....none of the losses anywhere else on the field matter. It starts and ends with the QB. Yes we have to stop people, but today we could have the 85 Bears D and it wouldn't matter bc our QB is immobile, low confidence, weak arm, and often poor decision making. But it's hard to put it all on him, when a lot of the blame goes on the coaches that keep running him out there to fail

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If you flipped daniels and will, this game is closer

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I'd say we'd be kicking their ass.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

If you flipped daniels and will, this game is closer

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It'd be tied in the worst of cases.

And Arnett wins his argument.

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Originally Posted by DownwardDawg

The fact that our coaches have watched every snap that Wright has taken and have decided that Will gives us the best chance to win, tells me all I need to know about Wright as a starter.

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These same coaches put Wright in for sparks when we needed them earlier. I guess making positive plays is no go for this offense.

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'd say we'd be kicking their ass.

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Idk, they're still more talented. Having a good qb is such an equalizer though. We gotta find a dual guy

refs trying to sell some Dr Pepper - we just so 5hitty

That was definitely a play on the ball

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'd say we'd be kicking their ass.

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Yep. Flip the score. Facing a QB like Will Rogers is a DC's dream. Just stop the run and bring pressure. He isn't escaping, and he won't beat you deep. Worst case scenario you give up an 8 yd comeback route and you tee off again next play

Everyone acting like Arizona's D was soooo much better. Watch. They suck. The season will show it

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Originally Posted by chef dixon

That was definitely a play on the ball

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doesn?t matter - you can go thru the receiver

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Idk, they're still more talented. Having a good qb is such an equalizer though. We gotta find a dual guy

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Actually I think we'd be ahead, on second thought.

Imagie if we had hired Deon:

The entire fanbase would have freaked out immediately, Will would have transferred along with a lot of other players, many in the fanbase would literally call Deon the worst hire in history, Bucky and Black Sails would cry every day on here... and we'd be a top 20 team with elite QB play and probably beating LSU right now.

Just goes to show, nobody knows what they're talking about

He converged at the spot

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Originally Posted by dawgday166

I'd say we'd be kicking their ass.

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No we wouldn't. It would be closer, but still ugly.

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Originally Posted by msstate7

Idk, they're still more talented. Having a good qb is such an equalizer though. We gotta find a dual guy

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Against SE Louisiana I believe, when Wright came in it seemed to pump the team up to me. Makes me wonder who the team is behind.

Daniels is a warrior and a leader. Folks around him play better.

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Originally Posted by bulldawg28

These same coaches put Wright in for sparks when we needed them earlier. I guess making positive plays is no go for this offense.

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if wright even touches the field it will be against a loaded box and man on receivers. he?ll look like sh1t in the game

Will we now get to see the secret offensive plays that Barbra was supposedly implementing?

You don't realize what you're talent level is when your qb sucks.

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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us

Imagie if we had hired Deon:

The entire fanbase would have freaked out immediately, Will would have transferred along with a lot of other players, many in the fanbase would literally call Deon the worst hire in history, Bucky and Black Sails would cry every day on here... and we'd be a top 20 team with elite QB play and probably beating LSU right now.

Just goes to show, nobody knows what they're talking about

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i checked - the timing was off

If we can get in EZ....maybe some hope left.


On cue, another WR bad throw.

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Originally Posted by Apoplectic

if wright even touches the field it will be against a loaded box and man on receivers. he?ll look like sh1t in the game

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Will is 5/18. We already look like shit. Put him in

Every time we run read option with Will at QB, a coach somewhere dies just a little.

What a thing of beauty on that our route by Noodle

We were not ready for this game. Period.

I just don't understand why we haven't put wright in the game once or even a series. I mean how much more does will have to struggle to at least change it up

Brian Kelly argues with the refs every timeout. Whining the whole game.

Go hurry up. You have to get some plays under your belt and stress their depth on defense

Definitely a catch

take the damn commercial break during these long reviews

Skip Wright and go Parson. We need to build for the future, not honor Leech.