We better be overspending for Lockhart and crew or be very prepared to come out with strong decisions today going forward. Optics alone would more than just sting.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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We better be overspending for Lockhart and crew or be very prepared to come out with strong decisions today going forward. Optics alone would more than just sting.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Yep. I feel really confident that if Lockhart flips, we will have announcement by the end of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
They?re toying with us now. It?s time for our Keenum, Selmon, and the money guys to have a sit down. We can?t continue to be ?Mister Nice Guys? anymore expect different results. Selmon has raised more in 90 days than Cohen did in 6 years but he is going to have tell the boosters to stop interfering with who to hire for staffs (..Turner..).
Leb needs to call Art and Kendall and whoever else to find himself a DL coach. Slide Hutz to STC and go overspend on proven DL and LB coaches.
On3 and .247 have us in the 20s overall. Pretty surprised by that reading here.
We are 2-10 and probably the worst team in P4.
Signing a class in the 20s is insane tbh.
And Taylor just signed. That's huge. Most important news of the day regardless of what else happens. He's the most physically gifted QB we've ever signed.
I doubt they end up in oxford, i don't think either are difference makers.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I was told that we were taking the older Lockhart to land the younger one because he was a top 5 talent in the state.
Without a doubt. Kamario is Cam Newton if you develop him correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Wonder if anyone has actually looked at the stats to prove that. Seems that way for us for sure cause of the Ole Miss shenanigans they pullQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowbell
Correct. That is the reason we pursued Clark and the other Lockhart so hard because everyone, including Tyler, told us that would guarantee his commitment. Then he started playing NIL games. He was never going to Auburn but wanted us to up the offer. Now Ole Miss has thrown a bag at him. We are negotiating this morning and some big people are in on the discussions. Still do not feel great right now though.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
This will be a top 35 class.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
I think we'll end up top 30. Like we usually do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bothrops
Sometimes you just have to keep sweetening the pot until you get the answer you need. Lebby's future here is in jeopardy because the DL will continue to miss the mark causing a machine breakdown for the defense. ****ing Bo Bounds was right, we are the least committed to football. I'm beginning to envy the majority of fans who don't care.
Yeah - some idiot on on3 is saying if a kid flips to a third school, he is going to suck. That is how he is justifying being ok if we don't land Lockhart.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEDawg
Because if Deuce Knight, AK Dear, Ivan Taylor (stud safety that just signed with Bama) and Caleb Cunnigham all signed with us this morning, we would be complaining that we are their third or fourth school to commit to.
Held onto to Lo Jac!!!
I know it is not great to celebrate a guy signing who has been committed since June, but this feels like a big one to keep. Florida St made a late run, Louisville made a late run, Miami was sniffing around, Ole Miss was sniffing around. From everyone I have talked to this is a guy that can contribute Year 1Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Looking at 24/7, it looks like Tyshun Willis signed with us and is the highest rated recruit on their site for us currently. Listed as an Edge. Idk anything about him but on the surface this looks like a huge get for us, yet no one is talking about it. Anyone know anything more?
He's going to be a LB more than an edge guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by RisperDawg
Comes from a 1A public school, Velma Jackson. So competition just was not much. He also kind of shut recruiting down once he committed.Quote:
Originally Posted by RisperDawg
Thanks for replies. Even happier to have him since he stayed the course with us through this shit show of a season. Ha.
Unless something changes in the next 50 minutes, which it can because we were still negotiating as of about an hour ago, I would not expect Tyler Lockhart in this class.
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Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Things change. Hell last night he was solid. We all woke up this morning and he wasn't. Welcome to recruiting. Chris Jones was signing with OM until the night before.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
Told Steve this?but he reminds me so much of Nickoe when Nickoe was in high school. Real deal thumper who is an athlete instead of an athlete playing the game. I think he is going to be good for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
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Originally Posted by civildawg
Shit happens. No sense in paying his price for an unproven high school player who may or may not develop..a la John Lewis, Jonathan Davis, etc.
Eventually we need to get Jason Washington back in a recruiting capacity for us.
It's amazing how much this happens to usQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
OM plays the game better. That simple. They've been organized since Vaught and never wavered. They also hit the biggest stroke of luck they ever hit when they hired Eddy O. He was a terrible HC there, but he showed them how to recruit in the new age of college football. He taught them the tricks. They kept those with them through Nutt and Freeze. And when Kiffin got there and it was legal, it was full steam ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by civildawg
We've been semi organized since Jackie, fell apart under Croom, got really organized under Dan, and then Cohen killed it with letting his baseball boosters run everything and influence the decisions. So we're back to getting things organized again in a world where paying players is not only legal, it's encouraged.
If Lockhart signs great.
If not, take his money and go get two veterans out of the portal that can help you immediately. We need help all over the field for 2025, and Lockhart, while he may be great in the future, is not an impact guy in 2025.
It's not the end of the world.
That's the way to look at it. Also, would expect staff changes to be announced in the coming days.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Any rumors on who?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I've heard names but not enough confidence to say one way or the other. If you just strictly wanted a guess, I would say Barnes and Turner are gone. Kennedy also may be moving on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
Cam Newton woke up some of my buddies out of the Croom era, and back into semi organizing back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
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Originally Posted by confucius say
Good. Turner and Kennedy need to go ASAPQuote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Turner more so than the other. We could’ve stood folding chairs out there in most games other than the last one and had better luck. Maybe someone would’ve tripped.Quote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Like I have said, David Turner was a really good coach in the early and mid 2000s. Unfortunately by the time his second stint came around in 2013, he was past his prime. Then our buddy buddy boosters decided they needed to bring him back again because he recruited Jeff and coached Chris Jones. Both lies. The heavy lifting on Jeff was done by Tony Hughes and Dan. And Chris had flashes at State but was not the Chris Jones of today until he got to the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brobi-wan
Kennedy recruited pretty well for us and many thought UM had flipped Miles, Kennedy said hold my beerQuote:
Originally Posted by StateDawg44
Cody recruited good this cycle and I think he will have some hits in the portal. My thinking of him leaving is solely based on Lebby wanting to bring in Clements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Yeah, I can see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
He can bring on Randy as an analyst. He's well versed in the offense.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
Lockhart to OM. A loss no matter how you look at it. Whether it is a big loss remains to be seen. I imagine this frees up two additional spots because the older Lockhart and Clark will be transferring out of all likelihood.
I'm curious to see if that ended up being the issue. Were we looking to process those two out anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve