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Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I’m gonna call it now that Hugesak is a starter and at least 2/3 of our starting SEC rotation is Loftin/Holcombe/Loo
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HahahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
I’m gonna call it now that Hugesak is a starter and at least 2/3 of our starting SEC rotation is Loftin/Holcombe/Loo
I know this is a Portal discussion thread, but is there and chance Covid Senior and TJ recovering Stone Simmons returns for 24? And isn?t Auger supposed to be 100% in 24 following his TJ surgery in 22?
Those guys seemed to be pretty good at the start of 22 before their injuries started the team swoon.
Because we can't get a good transfers at OF or pitcher? Yes. I agree that seems to be the situation so far thus guys on the roster will technically be the starters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
But if you're saying Hujesak will hit .300, and the pitchers you name will have SEC ERAs under 4.5? I doubt it. Hope you're right, but this is why I say we need transfers. Hujsak has talent but hasn't put it together any season of college. The pitchers you mention have talent but we rarely see such huge jumps in 1 offseason. All 3 are basically true Fr as far as coaching goes since Fox was so useless.
Now one thing I will admit is that I have not assumed any Fr can contribute at a high SEC level outside of Cupp. There's usually a pitcher that can, and we may get lucky and have a stud OF/3B emerge. I don't follow baseball recruiting very close
Any decent PC can get Loftin/Loo/Holcombe ready to get SEC hitters out. Too much talent there. Not to mention every other school has pitchers that contribute as Freshmen and then become weekend starters as Sophomores. Also good to see Siary and Forsythe having good summers on the mound
Hugesak is also having a good summer- hitting over .400 and showing his pop.
Last I heard, he's expected back.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
2 of those 3 pitchers just need to work primarily on their mental approach. Not that can't improve their stuff as well, but their larger problem is their mental approach. HugeSack has always been able to hit. It's his defense that's got to be better. Especially his throwing. He's going to be in the lineup IMO. TBD where/how they use him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
I think you need to prepare yourself that we're not hitting whatever goals you have in mind. Realistically, we need to not suck next year. We need to be a 2 seed. Long term, the goal should be host every year, occasional down years balanced out by occasional national seed years. But we're not realistically going to get from where we are now to where we want to be in one year with the NIL money we have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us
We aren't going to have a better portal haul than LSU, FL, & probably TCU. If we hit on our guys, we'll be up there though. The wait and see makes more sense with what we're trying to do. Winning a bidding war with LSU is impossible. Outside of that, it's our coaching situation. We probably have to pay more than usual for a top guy or two.
Internet Germans and Russians are saying that Burns is TCU bound....Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLostDawg
Just talking smack here, the Skenes deal at LSU worked for a Championship because (1) Skenes was uniquely awesome. That is why we were hoping that he would be a Dog and he created a stir when he tweeted about Aaron Nixon joining MSU. (2) LSU had other arms and great players to complement Skenes.
Heading to 2024, MSU has a really bad pitching staff overall and the bullpen is an atrocity. A super transfer (like Skenes) would help, but Chase Burns is not Skenes. He could become that good, but you can't say that Chase Burns is going to win 90% of his Fridays and go 8 innings like Skenes. Burns had a losing record and bad ERA as a starter. Does not mean that Burns is not going to get better and dominate 2024, but he does not guarantee a solution.
The best option (if we really had an option with Burns) would be to improve the overall pitching talent with 5-or-so solid players to help Parker succeed. That alone would win 7-to-9 more SEC games. You are then hosting regionals with quality depth and could easily be a 2024 Omaha team.
Yall act like its so easy to just "add arms" or "develop" the players. There a reason that every year about 13/14 SEC teams loose games due to lack of depth in the pen. There's a reason very few SEC teams even have a Sunday starter that can go 5. There's a reason top Portal guys get bid up and courted by multiple teams.
It is hard to throw 95+, have other pitches, and be able to consistently command all of them. EVERY SEC team has guys that throw 95+ but doesn't see the field and transfer to a small school as Jr's or Srs. Look at LSU's Floyd- guy throws 97, sits 95, has a slider and a good changeup. Had an SEC ERA of over 5 and never went deep into games due to lack of command. It wasn't till the postseason he started locating all his pitches. And that's a guy with far more college coaching than our guys will have had come the spring.
I think we see a guy throw fast and we think about it in 2013 terms where 97 was insane. It's not anymore. You have to locate and have good secondary stuff because everyone throws it fast enough to have a high ceiling.
Simmons or Auger or both?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
BothQuote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
The 2 transfers that are committed are not going to announce until after Team USA is done playing which is the 14th of July I believe. One assumes it is Montgomery and Holman.
I'll happily eat crow if true. Those would be MASSIVE gets and we'd just need a 3B, probably a couple more inning of relief but those 2 are massive getsQuote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Here's the roster:Quote:
Originally Posted by BigDawg81
Ben Abeldt; LHP; McKinney, Texas; TCU
Matt Ager; RHP; Pleasanton, Calif.; UC Santa Barbara
Drew Beam; RHP; Murfreesboro, Tenn.; Tennessee
Jac Caglianone; LHP/1B; Tampa, Fla.; Florida
Charlie Condon; 1B/OF; Marietta, Ga.; Georgia
Christian Coppola; RHP; Galloway, N.J.; Rutgers
Kaelen Culpepper; INF; Memphis, Tenn.; Kansas State
Duce Gourson; INF; San Diego, Calif.; UCLA
Rodney Green, Jr.; OF; Richmond, Calif.; Cal
Luke Holman; RHP; Sinking Spring, Pa.
*Carter Holton; LHP; Guyton, Ga.; Vanderbilt
Ryan Johnson; RHP; Red Oak, Texas; Dallas Baptist
Seaver King; INF; Athena, Ga.; Wake Forest
Jace LaViolette; OF; Katy, Texas; Texas A&M
Michael Massey; RHP; Suwanee, Ga.; Wake Forest
Xavier Meachem; RHP; Winterville, N.C.; NC A&T
Omar Melendez; LHP; Cayey, P.R.; Alabama State
Braden Montgomery; OF/RHP; Madison, Miss.; Stanford
^Malcolm Moore; C; Sacramento, Calif.; Stanford
^Christian Moore; INF; Brooklyn, N.Y.; Tennessee
Brandon Neely; RHP; Seville, Fla.; Florida
Tyson Neighbors; RHP; Royse City, Texas; Kansas State
Griff O'Ferrall; INF; Richmond, Va.; Virginia
Fran Oschell III; RHP; Phoenixville, Pa.; Duke
Kyle Robinson; RHP; Vienna, Va.; Texas Tech
Hagen Smith; LHP; Bullard, Texas; Arkansas
Ryan Stafford; C; Folsom, Calif.; Cal Poly
JJ Wetherholt; INF; Mars, Pa.; West Virginia
Nicholas Wilson; RHP; Carrollton, Texas; Southern
Jay Woolfolk; RHP; Chesterfield, Va.; Virginia
Trey Yesavage; RHP; Boyertown, Pa.; East Carolina
*denotes national team alum
^denotes National Team Development Program (NTDP) participant
Just looking at it from a purely geographical standpoint the only other one I could possibly see would be the kid from KSU that is from Memphis. Of course, most suspect Kulp will be the SS. The kid from Alabama State had good numbers, albeit against vastly inferior competition. They're both sophomores so I'm not sure of their draft eligibility.
325 hitting at KSU is ok, 950 fielding is better than Forskin at his best. But Team USA certainly is impressive. Somebody has to play 3B. Mershon is not totally a locked super-star, sub 900 fielding percentage. Midgets better be good fielders. We should consider 3B, SS, and 2B as winnable positions for the best player.
The Alabama state pitcher is probably a Parker kid if he is on the radar.
Parker has been a U18 Team USA coach. He could have scouted this player closely.
I think any team Team USA player is worth getting. Confirmation Bias. Guilty as Charged.
How many games did Mershon play at 2B this past season to affect that fielding percentage? Because that is where he will be starting this Spring
Hines will be at 1st
Mershon at 2B
Highfill likely catching because nobody wants to transfer unless they are all but promised the job
Jordan and Hugesak in the OF.
We have to figure out who the SS will be, and find a 3B and another OF'er. Plus the DH
In a perfect world we would get Holman and Montgomery and then we could maybe get the 3B that played at Memphis last year and be OK.
We're probably getting the guy from Sacred Heart as well.
Sacred Heart? Would this be Sam Mongelli the 400 hitting SS with 20 HRs? I like these North East Players, in NY/Jersey they generally consider going south as barbaric like Mississippi kids don't want to move to Guatemala.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
That's him!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
I hope the optimism that some of you guys have will rub off on me. I have seen so many baseball games over my life following the Dawgs at home and away. I am just just stunned after winning the Natty how far we fell off the cliff. I hope to regain confidence and get back on the wagon that I fell off on this past year! But in saying this, I'm in a wait and see mode and honestly I see we will be better but not sure how much. Also, when things are as bad as they have been the last two year, the noise I heard on read about players and even my grandson, I decided not to attend games.
After saying all this, what I saw was poorly coached team and lack of certain positions in recruiting the last few years. I truely hope Lemonis is what many of us thought he was and not some lazy coach who let the ship sink. We are a baseball school!
What happened to the 3b from Gonzaga?Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State
He would be a great acquisition.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Committed elsewhereQuote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
Now ya'll are seeing some of what Homedog was talking about. Like I said, we've got a shot at a good portal class. Just need to add a couple pitchers to the guys mentioned and we'll all be happy with that group. Got to get them in first and that's a couple weeks away.
Need to add more than a couple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Cade McGee (now a Texas Tech Raider) was a 293 hitter with 6 HR at Gonzaga; he does have a 100% fielding percentage but so few chances, he seems like a DH. I think you aspire for a slugger at 3B and you could accept a Tommy White non-fielding percentage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tripp McNeely
I think I rather have Amani Larry return, he would hit 320 and 10 HR in 2024. Let's see what the draft does.
MSU also has Hujsak that can play 3B. I bet Hujsak kills it at 3B, his 900 fielding at VCU is better than Forskin, Mershon, and E5 this past year.
If the secret commitments are Holman and Montgomery, MSU is at least playing Supers next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
Having to coach up a whole group vs get a couple studs. Rather have the studs and actually coach the group we have and see what they are made ofQuote:
Originally Posted by The Federalist Engineer
Get Holman and two or three more and we're good. Pitching coach will improve our current guys. We get back a couple who were hurt last year too. And we could possibly add more depending on who is available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saltydog
Holman is the huge piece. He alone gets us to post season assuming our young guys make the expected move in improvement. Not sure what Cade is doing (Base can tell you more than me) but the potential is high.
Again, patience.Quote:
Originally Posted by confucius say
Cade is projected 3rd-5th round. He is gone
Coming back wouldn't help him much anyway, or at least I don't think so. I'm sure he has gotten good advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Cade wasn't showing in the top 250 picks last I looked. I figured he was gone regardless but didn't want to put my foot in my mouth saying so. Can't blame him. Wonder what NIL would be for him though.
I don't think it matters what round but we shall see. I can't speak for him but I don't see him coming back. Baseball is only fun when you win all the time, the last two years wasn't what he has been associated with, LOL Just saying, a lot was going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cooterpoot
It sure as heck wasn?t fun for me the past 2 years. I guess all the fans that kept showing up were there for the atmosphere and drinking because they couldn?t have been there for the baseball.Quote:
Originally Posted by basedog
The only reason I attended the few I went toQuote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
We stopped going
I wasn?t driving 3hrs to watch bad baseball
I can do that any weekend on the travel ball circuit
LSU is hiring Nate Yeskie as PC.