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06-23-2023, 12:04 AM
#321
State's MO regarding NIL to this point has been to use it mostly to retain the players we already have. Which if you break it down by sport, it seems to be the smarter investment.
However, it's do or die time for Lemonis, and we've got to land some big transfers if we're gonna turn this around next year. Not necessarily a bunch of them, but a few high impact guys, and those players will cost money. It'll be interesting to see if we open up the pocket book these next few weeks.
Gotta have a couple of starters, a legit 3B, and if Braden Montgomery hits the portal, you do everything in your power to get him. Let's get to it.
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06-23-2023, 12:06 AM
#322

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
State's MO regarding NIL to this point has been to use it mostly to retain the players we already have. Which if you break it down by sport, it seems to be the smarter investment.
However, it's do or die time for Lemonis, and we've got to land some big transfers if we're gonna turn this around next year. Not necessarily a bunch of them, but a few high impact guys, and those players will cost money. It'll be interesting to see if we open up the pocket book these next few weeks.
Gotta have a couple of starters, a legit 3B, and if Braden Montgomery hits the portal, you do everything in your power to get him. Let's get to it.
Times is changing around here.... what you are asking for is supposedly already happening...
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06-23-2023, 01:20 AM
#323

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
State's MO regarding NIL to this point has been to use it mostly to retain the players we already have. Which if you break it down by sport, it seems to be the smarter investment.
However, it's do or die time for Lemonis, and we've got to land some big transfers if we're gonna turn this around next year. Not necessarily a bunch of them, but a few high impact guys, and those players will cost money. It'll be interesting to see if we open up the pocket book these next few weeks.
Gotta have a couple of starters, a legit 3B, and if Braden Montgomery hits the portal, you do everything in your power to get him. Let's get to it.
I'm sure we will open up the pocket book. But it's not just portal guys- that's simply one piece of the puzzle.
Even LSU- they have Crews, Morgan, and Travenski that they recruited out of high school. And I'm not sure that there will be a Paul Skenes every year.
I think what it comes down to for us is how much Parker can improve our pitching staff. And sure- we do need impact guys out of the portal. We've actually had pretty good success with the portal- Ledbetter, Larry, Dohm, Yeager, Dubrule, Simmons, etc.
Really we need to use the portal to fill holes- mostly third base and corner OF IMO plus whatever pitchers we can get. NIL can also help us retain guys like maybe we keep Aaron Nixon that we would have lost in the past. I think a guy like Holman might give us peace of mind as fans more than anything but at the same time we have some really good talent that wasn't developed that I think will be a lot better next year.
The issue for us more or less with NIL is I think we were behind and then Charlie has gotten us mostly caught up to the point where per rumor we have a really good war chest for baseball.
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06-23-2023, 05:09 AM
#324

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
State's MO regarding NIL to this point has been to use it mostly to retain the players we already have. Which if you break it down by sport, it seems to be the smarter investment.
However, it's do or die time for Lemonis, and we've got to land some big transfers if we're gonna turn this around next year. Not necessarily a bunch of them, but a few high impact guys, and those players will cost money. It'll be interesting to see if we open up the pocket book these next few weeks.
Gotta have a couple of starters, a legit 3B, and if Braden Montgomery hits the portal, you do everything in your power to get him. Let's get to it.
Charlie said this himself. They are going to spend NIL on players that are already here.
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06-23-2023, 06:35 AM
#325

Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
State's MO regarding NIL to this point has been to use it mostly to retain the players we already have. Which if you break it down by sport, it seems to be the smarter investment.
However, it's do or die time for Lemonis, and we've got to land some big transfers if we're gonna turn this around next year. Not necessarily a bunch of them, but a few high impact guys, and those players will cost money. It'll be interesting to see if we open up the pocket book these next few weeks.
Gotta have a couple of starters, a legit 3B, and if Braden Montgomery hits the portal, you do everything in your power to get him. Let's get to it.
And really we have to focus the NIL money available primarily on any proven pitchers in the portal. Without improved pitching it really doesn't matter if we marginally improve our offense.
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06-23-2023, 12:57 PM
#326
Cannon Peebles
Freshman All American C from NC State. 350 Hitter with 12 HRs and 50 RBI
But he wants to be a C, not something else.
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06-23-2023, 10:09 PM
#327
Looks like Chase Burns will enter the portal. How much what cost us to get him?
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06-23-2023, 10:20 PM
#328

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
Looks like Chase Burns will enter the portal. How much what cost us to get him?
I saw someplace else that it’s LSU. I’m just shaking my head at this point.
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06-23-2023, 10:37 PM
#329

Originally Posted by
maroonmania
And really we have to focus the NIL money available primarily on any proven pitchers in the portal. Without improved pitching it really doesn't matter if we marginally improve our offense.
Todd is implying we need to develop the guys we have vs bring in new arms.
Personally, I think Parker could improve every returning pitcher by a mile and they still wouldn't be SEC starters. Thats how far of a hill we have to climb.
I do agree with TOdd that we need a 3B and a OF. Cant have 2 dead bats at 2 of your 4 "slugger" positions. I agree with you we need a legit SEC starter or 2 from the Portal but we can't let 2/9 ABs go to waste either
The Bama 3B that hit 25 HRs went to UF. Literally a guy enters right beside us and we let a team that's still paying 4 states away out recruit us. Or out spend us, not sure which. We need to get 2 Portal bats like Todd said and 10+ innings of SEC pitching like you said
I mean lets do the math on it, how many innings of SEC pitching did we have this year in a weekend? Cade gave us 5. Nixon 3 at most. dohm 3 a most. Gartman maybe 4 when healthy but he'd be roughed up that whole time. Hunt could give 2. Loo, Holcombe, Siary, Hardin etc could give you an inning or 2 every 3rd appearance, they were not reliable for any amount of time.
That's 17 innings of pitching in a 27 inning weekend, with me being charitable. We loose Cades' 5 and Hunts 2. Oh year, Gartman's 4 is gone too right? So we return 6 innings of SEC proven pitching for next year lol.
SOme here will say the 21 missing innings will come from improvements to our young guys + injured pitchers returning. I say you have to plan on 5+ innings of arms to go down with injuries (ie you need to start the year with 32+ innings of good arms) and that Parker isn't a miracle worker. He can help them all, he can get 1 to make a big breakthrough, but he can't get 4-5 to have a breakthrough like we need. No coach can. There's a reason pitchers are supposed to get better each year, because the coaching builds. You can't cram 3 full years and seasons of coaching into 1 off season and expect the pitchers to reach their ceiling.
We need 10 innings of pitching from transfers imo. Really we need more than that, I"m being aggressive with assumptions about our guys making jumps to talk myself down to just 10 innings
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06-23-2023, 10:46 PM
#330
BTW, rumor is Chase Burns will enter the portal to go to LSU.
He must just want to be coached by Wes***
Last edited by the_real_MSU_is_us; 06-23-2023 at 10:49 PM.
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06-23-2023, 11:25 PM
#331

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
Todd is implying we need to develop the guys we have vs bring in new arms.
Personally, I think Parker could improve every returning pitcher by a mile and they still wouldn't be SEC starters. Thats how far of a hill we have to climb.
I do agree with TOdd that we need a 3B and a OF. Cant have 2 dead bats at 2 of your 4 "slugger" positions. I agree with you we need a legit SEC starter or 2 from the Portal but we can't let 2/9 ABs go to waste either
The Bama 3B that hit 25 HRs went to UF. Literally a guy enters right beside us and we let a team that's still paying 4 states away out recruit us. Or out spend us, not sure which. We need to get 2 Portal bats like Todd said and 10+ innings of SEC pitching like you said
I mean lets do the math on it, how many innings of SEC pitching did we have this year in a weekend? Cade gave us 5. Nixon 3 at most. dohm 3 a most. Gartman maybe 4 when healthy but he'd be roughed up that whole time. Hunt could give 2. Loo, Holcombe, Siary, Hardin etc could give you an inning or 2 every 3rd appearance, they were not reliable for any amount of time.
That's 17 innings of pitching in a 27 inning weekend, with me being charitable. We loose Cades' 5 and Hunts 2. Oh year, Gartman's 4 is gone too right? So we return 6 innings of SEC proven pitching for next year lol.
SOme here will say the 21 missing innings will come from improvements to our young guys + injured pitchers returning. I say you have to plan on 5+ innings of arms to go down with injuries (ie you need to start the year with 32+ innings of good arms) and that Parker isn't a miracle worker. He can help them all, he can get 1 to make a big breakthrough, but he can't get 4-5 to have a breakthrough like we need. No coach can. There's a reason pitchers are supposed to get better each year, because the coaching builds. You can't cram 3 full years and seasons of coaching into 1 off season and expect the pitchers to reach their ceiling.
We need 10 innings of pitching from transfers imo. Really we need more than that, I"m being aggressive with assumptions about our guys making jumps to talk myself down to just 10 innings
Rumor is we had someone commit that will become public info next wk. I haven’t heard names, just talk. I know we had several on campus over the wk…
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06-23-2023, 11:53 PM
#332

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
Charlie said this himself. They are going to spend NIL on players that are already here.
Charlie will spend the money where the donors and coaches tell him to...
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06-24-2023, 01:19 AM
#333

Originally Posted by
Cowbell
Charlie will spend the money where the donors and coaches tell him to...
Well we need to drop as much as it takes and pull Burns… He is a Friday night guy that could jump start us big time…
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06-24-2023, 09:15 AM
#334

Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
Well we need to drop as much as it takes and pull Burns… He is a Friday night guy that could jump start us big time…
We aren't getting burns.
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06-24-2023, 09:39 AM
#335
My guess is Burns goes to Fla or LSU
LSU is back to getting whatever they want again with Johnson as coach
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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06-24-2023, 10:17 AM
#336

Originally Posted by
the_real_MSU_is_us
BTW, rumor is Chase Burns will enter the portal to go to LSU.
He must just want to be coached by Wes***
Maybe, if goes to UGA. That would be wild
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06-24-2023, 10:21 AM
#337

Originally Posted by
Coach34
My guess is Burns goes to Fla or LSU
LSU is back to getting whatever they want again with Johnson as coach
Meanwhile, I check the message board every day looking for some good news from the transfer portal, and?..nothing.
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06-24-2023, 11:27 AM
#338
Does anyone know the reason/s for Burns leaving Tenn? Money? Doesn’t like his role? Coach/s?
He was going on and on about being a Vol last year.
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06-24-2023, 11:27 AM
#339

Originally Posted by
Homedawg
We aren't getting burns.
You heard something specific or just guessing? I agree it's hard to fathom.
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06-24-2023, 11:28 AM
#340

Originally Posted by
bulldogcountry1
Meanwhile, I check the message board every day looking for some good news from the transfer portal, and?..nothing.
Patience
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