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I wish some, of these suppposedly mature adults, would not take what a recruit says on twitter and try to determine what he means, because they don't have a clue what he was thinking at the time or his reason for tweeting what he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I like the way this is sounding...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElitedawgRecruiting
OL is the only place we need to upgrade. And Lashley, Champion, and Rankin imply that we are doing that already. If people are waiting on us to start pulling day 1 elite OL -- they will be waiting for awhile most likely. But all 3 of those are high ceiling guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Hancock no more insanely large jcp ads whatever the heck that was for....
Yeah, sorry about that, it wasn't supposed to be that big.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScoobaDawg
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Could this mean guys like Derrick brown and some top guys Sirmon has committed to USC??
I'm not expecting day 1 elites, I just don't want to sign some warm bodies that appear to be elite. We've missed on some "top rated" guys that we were counting on and it's killing our depth. Will Champion ever get out of Juco?Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
IMO our miss is in not taking more guys -- and letting the ones we have stick around too long when it's pretty clear what they are and are not. And this is even with them still managing to cull themselves...Quote:
Originally Posted by Interpolation_Dawg_EX
Great point. This may go against Mullen's overall strategy, but he needs to get guys to agree to go on medical scholarship like Saban does.Quote:
Originally Posted by engie
Well he has started doing this more. How many recently? 2? 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Im a big believer that we should be signing 25 players every year, until we simply can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Really Clark?
Does college football need 85 scholarships?Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
NFL only has 53 guys & a practice squad of 10 or so.
Seems to me, it would help Title 9 issues with baseball & help even the playing field in college football if they reduced the scholarship limit to 75 or 80 & only allowed teams to sign 22 or 23 players a year.
Big difference between NFL and College, in the NFL everyone can play.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Normally RS freshman and freshman aren't ready to play, that usually makes up 35 players on scholarship. If you move down to 75, you will be playing with 40 kids that can actually compete.
Good pointQuote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
Listening to the Bonyard today & Rosebowl isn't very confident about AJ Brown. Says Alabama is the team to beat right now & that we need to pray that we make it through the weekend with Brown visiting Bama right after their NC.
He does say that 60% of AJ's recruitment is still to go, but that it's going to be a battle.
With no inside knowledge, I still feel confident about AJ because I just can't imagine that the MSU family, alumni, & coaches would allow a star from Starkville to get out of town. Surely, we can figure out a way to win this one.
Don't shoot me for this, but hearing Kobe Jones is far from a lock as well. I know we have heard nothing but positives for him for a very long time, don't know if anyone else has heard the same but I have heard it from someone who is pretty "in the know"
meh, I don't believe this one. It's rumor season, but this one doesn't pass the smell test or make senseQuote:
Originally Posted by 615
AJ will be a battle, but I don't think Kobe will be.
The key with AJ will be getting him to visit. It's not so much the visit that matters, it's AJ being serious enough about MSU & about his future at MSU to come on a visit.
It would be major embarrassing if we lose this one. I'm holding out hope though
Maybe all is well on the Kobe front...already got flamed for stating that rumor, wasn't trying to ruffle feathers
Look, Brown and Simmons are hands down the top 2 players in the State this year and both within spitting distance of our campus. If we end up losing both of these guys I don't see how this recruiting season really becomes anything but disappointing. I mean to have 2 players that good right on your doorstep during the most successful period of MSU football ever and not be able to pull either one would be, to reference the Polkster, a slap in the face and punch in the gut. Just REALLY hope that doesn't happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
This would certainly call me to question the future & ceiling of our football program under this current coaching staff & administration. If we lose one, their will be disappointment, but, if we lose both, there will be rioting & major disappointment in all corners of the MSU fan base.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
In college sports, you can only sell two things: 1. Winning 2. Hope. Only Alabama & a few others actually win enough to sell winning. All MSU has is winning enough to buy more time for hope to come to fruition. If you lose both Simmons & Brown, how can any rational MSU fan have legitimate hope about the future of the program?
Plus the NFL can always go sign somebody mid season. If they couldn't, you probably wouldn't see them with a 53 man roster. Just a back up at every position and a punter and kicker takes up all but 7 spots. You really have to have a third QB. And then you throw in trying to have the ability to play different formations, and 53 spots wouldn't be enough. Any one injury could put you in a position where a particular formation is out the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
Rebel troll alertQuote:
Originally Posted by 615
C.J. Morgan-Walker would slap you for that statementQuote:
Originally Posted by 615
Kobe Jones is more committed to our program than most "commits" to other SEC programs.
Robertson is difficult to really know whether to trust or not because he seems to be so hit or miss from prospect to prospect. If there is any doubt he seems to get VERY conservative on MSU's chances and sometimes it pays off for him like the Sullivan kid from LA. He never really gave us as the favorite to get him even when this board and other places thought we had sewn him up and he proved to be right. But in other cases, like for example Leo Lewis, he was like the last person to know that we were actually going to get him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
After the Brandon Bryant ordeal, I don't put much stock into what he has to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Here are my thoughts on AJ
1. On 247, he is listed as "cool" on Alabama's recruiting page
2. 90% of the crystal balls project AJ to MSU
3. Alabama has Calvin Ridley for 2 more years & Adarius Stewart is only a Soph
4. Alabama has two WRs committed & two other elite athletes
5. Alabama only has about 1 WR spot left & they lead for 5 star Demetris Robertson
So, AJ can go to Bama & be behind Ridley & Adarius Stewart for 1 or 2 years, or he can come to MSU, in a more pass happy offense, & potentially start as a freshman & be THE GUY for two years.
Logically, MSU holds big edge here & AJ will have to sacrifice playing time & potentially overall success by going to Bama.
All those are logical points, but you aren't dealing with someone looking to buy a car.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
These are high level athletes that truly believe they are the best at their position in the country. They need to think this way in order to achieve the success they want to have.
Also, Brown is better than Stewart. He is going to play wherever he goes.
He may be better than Stewart, but Stewart is still really good & does his job. I doubt Saban is looking to replace him.Quote:
Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog
I am surprised though that Bama people don't seem to think they are getting him. Why is he only "cool" on their board & why are 90% of the crystal balls towards MSU?
I wonder if this is a case where MSU is fearing Bama maybe more than we should & Bama people are laughing at us saying, "he's going to MSU."
Keith Gavin's recruitment is the 1 we really need to watch. He & AJ are 1A & 1B for that WR spot. Gavin OV to Bama this weekend & FSU next weekend. He's a former FSU commit & most think Bama lead & he could commit this weekend but most think he'll wait til after his visits.
Best guy is going to play for Saban. Stewart is good, but if someone comes in and is better, they are gonna play. That's how Saban and most successful coaches do it. Receiver is a position where a lot of guys will get time anyways, and like you said most of the good ones think they are the best.
Adarius Stewart had 63 catches for 700 yards this year. He's playing & starting next year.......ridiculous to think otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by 615
Furthermore, former 5 star WR Robert Foster hurt his shoulder in September & missed the rest of the season. He's also going to be back next year.
Lastly, you also have former 96 rated WR Cam Sims, who started the year injured, after having a knee injury in the Spring game & not quite getting right this year, will be returning next year.
Point is, the depth chart at Bama is stacked, and, while AJ is an elite WR, he's going to have to beat out players who are older, stronger, just as highly rated, & have been around longer & know the play book better.
All this for a team that would rather run the ball than throw it.
Or, he can come to MSU & likely start & catch 40-60 passes.
Logic points to MSU. We'll just to see where his heart is.
Just saw on Twitter prospect Zach Farrar 3* WR is also visiting this weekend. I didn't know who he was so I looked him up on 247 ha. He's listed at 6'4 205 4.48 40 and a vertical of 38. I wouldn't complain one bit if we landed this kid if he can really put that 40 time down and really has that vertical
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Originally Posted by NeshobaChuck
he also plays baseball and we are telling him he can play both.
Let me put your mind at ease, he can not run a real 4.48 at 6'4" 205 lbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeshobaChuck
As always, add .2 to every 40 yard time you see reported by a recruit. That is recruiting 101, or as recruits would say recruiting 99.2.
There are some thoughts on Paul's board, by trusted posters, that AJ may be already privately committed to MSU.
Does anyone think that's plausible?
I am not really worried about Brown. Ole Miss fans are very confident about Simmons though.
Yes, that is extremely plausible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShotgunDawg
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In the FWIW category, Rosebowl says as of today Simmons is UM/Bama.
Nobody can specifically say one way or the other on Simmons right now. Anyone who does is speculating.
However, if I still had Crystal Ball Privileges, sorry I made u guys mad cause I told the truth over there, I would be Crystall Balling AJ to MSU this morning