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10-22-2022, 08:04 PM
Leeshouldveflanked

Saban will end Rogers season the 2nd half
10-22-2022, 08:04 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by Vandownbytheriver

I think a lot of the criticism he gets is very overboard, but in the same breath, no matter how poorly he plays some weeks you can't admit that either. Bama is just miles ahead talent wise and poor Will is taking a beating. The refs aren't helping either. To beat them you have to be mobile. Will is not that.

He plays QB. All the genius offensive savants know what he should have done or checked to before he even does it. He is not perfect. But 10x better than what we have had for a lot of our history
10-22-2022, 08:05 PM
PGHBulldogBG

We just don’t have the talent. We still can go 8-4 if we play it right against Auburn and Ole Miss
10-22-2022, 08:05 PM
BeardoMSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vandownbytheriver

I think a lot of the criticism he gets is very overboard, but in the same breath, no matter how poorly he plays some weeks you can't admit that either. Bama is just miles ahead talent wise and poor Will is taking a beating. The refs aren't helping either. To beat them you have to be mobile. Will is not that.

Mobility is not just a requirement vs Bama....you see QB mobility as a feature of almost every offense at both the College and NFL level...

But yeah, Leach is the genius, lol.. .
10-22-2022, 08:05 PM
Goldendawg

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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

So the 5th ranked and 2 time NC changes QB to win the game today. Yet an also ran like State will not make a QB change when the starter is 8 for 25 for under 100 yards. That is pure BS. And even Bucky Rogers knows it!!

Our 2 4 Star Qb's in the QB room can't beat him out. Over-rated, poor development, one small page O too hard to learn?
10-22-2022, 08:05 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

If I am Cohen I walk over at half and say were not coming back out bc we are not playing by the same rules. But we wont

Our AD has to address this with the SEC office. Yes I know they won't do anything but you can't let them do this without calling them out.
10-22-2022, 08:05 PM
DDawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

I dont care. Im sure Tyson lee or you woudlnt bring it up. But I am just going to leave you with the fact that you are seriously wasting your time arguing about Tyson Lee in 2022 vs our current QB. Have a good one

Will would have really excelled on those late 2000's power house MSU teams.
10-22-2022, 08:06 PM
vindastra

Nick Fitz would have made all the 2 yard throws that Will can make. We never called him great.
10-22-2022, 08:06 PM
BuckyIsAB****

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

So the 5th ranked and 2 time NC changes QB to win the game today. Yet an also ran like State will not make a QB change when the starter is 8 for 25 for under 100 yards. That is pure BS. And even Bucky Rogers knows it!!

With how many drops? Sawyer Roberson will do the same thing but worse. This is a tired argument. He will never satisfy yall
10-22-2022, 08:07 PM
Maverick91

We do not need to abandon the run, price is running well when marks isn?t in. And we need to catch the ball. We are moving the ball well and we just need to clean things up.
10-22-2022, 08:07 PM
DDawg

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Originally Posted by Bdawg

Why even open your mouth and say something like that?

I mean Tyson Lee put up points on bama with much worse teams. Sure it was only 7 points but last I checked 7 was better than 0. Also Tyson Lee wasnt a sissy.
10-22-2022, 08:07 PM
BankerDog

In every game we have loss, Will?s balls have shrunk and he gets tight. He plays like this at home but is a tad more relaxed. He plays not to lose on the road and is afraid to go downfield. That?s just how he is and how it?ll be with him.

Also for everyone who wanted Arnett as the HC one day?ha.
10-22-2022, 08:07 PM
BuckyIsAB****

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Originally Posted by vindastra

Nick Fitz would have made all the 2 yard throws that Will can make. We never called him great.

Nick Fitzgerald was a hell of a player. I defended him too. Yall called him gay and wanted him benched after every other game
10-22-2022, 08:07 PM
CaptainObvious

We need someone like a Mullen with a highly paid DC to have any success trotting 27-39th ranked recruiting classes out on the field in the SEC. And 2014 was a complete anomaly. No way a State like Mississippi can have consistently good D1 football programs at the same time. Over the past 40 plus years, when one is up, the other has to be down. State was bad under Shira and Templeton, both who were promoted from within. Cohen is a clone as he was also promoted from within. You can?t count Loafers. He was promoted from within but hit the road the first chance he got. And he is the damn son in law of our most famous basketball player, but still got the hell out. Yet successful ADs who aren?t favorite sons are swapping jobs all over the country and we can?t get a single one of them since Byrne to take our job and hire our coaches? Stupid!
10-22-2022, 08:08 PM
starkvegasdawg

The solution to the problem.

https://i.gifer.com/origin/bb/bb9bd3...4100fff5b1.gif
10-22-2022, 08:09 PM
BankerDog

Tyler Russell in this offense would?ve been fun to watch..
10-22-2022, 08:10 PM
Vandownbytheriver

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

He plays QB. All the genius offensive savants know what he should have done or checked to before he even does it. He is not perfect. But 10x better than what we have had for a lot of our history

I do not disagree with you at all. Sometimes every player is going to have a poor game. And some of the guys want to see him fail just to say I told you so. We have some very miserable, self loathing folks on this board. Some need to step away from the keyboard.

The kid has a ton of heart and plays well most of the time. When we have bad games, it's painful to watch. We either look like we can play with anyone or Vandy. We have no middle ground.
10-22-2022, 08:10 PM
Goldendawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by R2Dawg

Our AD has to address this with the SEC office. Yes I know they won't do anything but you can't let them do this without calling them out.

Our AD is an in house hire, ex-baseball coach. He may not even know the rules of football.
10-22-2022, 08:11 PM
vindastra

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Originally Posted by starkvegasdawg

The solution to the problem.

https://i.gifer.com/origin/bb/bb9bd3...4100fff5b1.gif

15 yard penalty and ejection from game. Should be easy to execute.
10-22-2022, 08:11 PM
Bdawg

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Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG

We just don’t have the talent. We still can go 8-4 if we play it right against Auburn and Ole Miss

We all knew this. I don’t understand the melt. We took some chances to make the score actually worse than it might have been. But we needed to
10-22-2022, 08:11 PM
CaptainObvious

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

With how many drops? Sawyer Roberson will do the same thing but worse. This is a tired argument. He will never satisfy yall

Well daddy Bucky why don?t you go grab little will by the face mask and tell him to man up or go sit by your wife in the stands where he can be safe from us mean ole message boarders?
10-22-2022, 08:11 PM
HoopsDawg

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

He will never ever do anything good enough for yall

That's a fair statement. I think you have to have some degree of mobility in 2022. Especially at MSU. Will has to have a completely clean pocket. And that's not going to happen agains the LSU's and the Bama's.
10-22-2022, 08:11 PM
BeardoMSU

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

We need someone like a Mullen with a highly paid DC to have any success trotting 27-39th ranked recruiting classes out on the field in the SEC. And 2014 was a complete anomaly. No way a State like Mississippi can have consistently good D1 football programs at the same time. Over the past 40 plus years, when one is up, the other has to be down. State was bad under Shira and Templeton, both who were promoted from within. Cohen is a clone as he was also promoted from within. You can?t count Loafers. He was promoted from within but hit the road the first chance he got. And he is the damn son in law of our most famous basketball player, but still got the hell out. Yet successful ADs who aren?t favorite sons are swapping jobs all over the country and we can?t get a single one of them since Byrne to take our job and hire our coaches? Stupid!

**** Mullen. He never appreciated us. He gets sooo much credit as a QB whisperer, not bc of his coaching abilities but bc Dak is just one of those DUDES.

That being said, lol....yes someone like Dan (but better as a recruiter) would be nice :)
10-22-2022, 08:12 PM
RocketDawg

Shouldn't they call a penalty? One of our guys tackled Bryce Young.
10-22-2022, 08:12 PM
mparkerfd20

I would not be upset if we told Arnett to hit the road.
10-22-2022, 08:12 PM
R2Dawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by vindastra

Nick Fitz would have made all the 2 yard throws that Will can make. We never called him great.

Ha, I've said that before too that a running QB in the air raid is just what the air raid needs. Fitz can make all those throws.
10-22-2022, 08:13 PM
Goldendawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainObvious

We need someone like a Mullen with a highly paid DC to have any success trotting 27-39th ranked recruiting classes out on the field in the SEC. And 2014 was a complete anomaly. No way a State like Mississippi can have consistently good D1 football programs at the same time. Over the past 40 plus years, when one is up, the other has to be down. State was bad under Shira and Templeton, both who were promoted from within. Cohen is a clone as he was also promoted from within. You can?t count Loafers. He was promoted from within but hit the road the first chance he got. And he is the damn son in law of our most famous basketball player, but still got the hell out. Yet successful ADs who aren?t favorite sons are swapping jobs all over the country and we can?t get a single one of them since Byrne to take our job and hire our coaches? Stupid!

Our current DC makes $1mil plus. How highly paid?
10-22-2022, 08:13 PM
BeardoMSU

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Originally Posted by mparkerfd20

I would not be upset if we told Arnett to hit the road.

I'd rather this offense hit the road....
10-22-2022, 08:14 PM
CaptainObvious

And I don?t expect us to beat Alabama ever again. But I do expect us to put up a better fight than Joe?s Barber College against them! It?s freaking embarrassing and it starts with QB play. Every damn time we play them!
10-22-2022, 08:15 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

**** Mullen. He never appreciated us. He gets sooo much credit as a QB whisperer, not bc of his coaching abilities but bc Dak is just one of those DUDES.

That being said, lol....yes someone like Dan (but better as a recruiter) would be nice :)

To be fair, Dan had more than Dak. A guy named Tebow and Alex Smith to name two. Not sure he was the QB whisperer but he has coached some good ones.
10-22-2022, 08:15 PM
R2Dawg

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I'd rather this offense hit the road....

Ditto
10-22-2022, 08:15 PM
mparkerfd20

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Originally Posted by BeardoMSU

I'd rather this offense hit the road....

Touche. I'm done with the Mike Leach error myself.
10-22-2022, 08:16 PM
BuckyIsAB****

The defense has not played that bad. Except for our cutesy crap that never works on 3rd down. These kids are fighting. We were never going to get a chance to win that was shown in the first half. But they have 100 reasons to quit and they havent. This board has some problems man I am not a moral victory guy but some on this board need to rethink life
10-22-2022, 08:16 PM
vindastra

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Originally Posted by BankerDog

Tyler Russell in this offense would?ve been fun to watch..

Tyler Russell was even less mobile than Will? That what I remember. Would get killed.
10-22-2022, 08:17 PM
mparkerfd20

Holding out hope Leach retires and we seriously consider Prime Time. Will never happen though.
10-22-2022, 08:17 PM
R2Dawg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

That's a fair statement. I think you have to have some degree of mobility in 2022. Especially at MSU. Will has to have a completely clean pocket. And that's not going to happen agains the LSU's and the Bama's.

Left one off - UK. That is painful to type.
10-22-2022, 08:17 PM
DDawg

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Originally Posted by mparkerfd20

Touche. I'm done with the Mike Leach error myself.

No matter how or when it ends atleast it was a nice palette cleanse from JoMo who was the worst there ever was. Also i still laugh about us shredding LSU in his first game and thinking we were world beaters and then just slowly reverting back into what weve been for the past like 10 years.
10-22-2022, 08:18 PM
BuckyIsAB****

Quote:

Originally Posted by HoopsDawg

That's a fair statement. I think you have to have some degree of mobility in 2022. Especially at MSU. Will has to have a completely clean pocket. And that's not going to happen agains the LSU's and the Bama's.

He is not Mike Vick. But Mike Vick would struggle with the situation will gets put in at times. I would love him to be more mobile but he is not as bad as this board says
10-22-2022, 08:18 PM
Maverick91

You guys crapping on arnett are dumb. What else do you expect him to do when the offense has missed in so many things and stupid penalties called in his side of the ball.
10-22-2022, 08:18 PM
msu15

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Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****

The defense has not played that bad. Except for our cutesy crap that never works on 3rd down. These kids are fighting. We were never going to get a chance to win that was shown in the first half. But they have 100 reasons to quit and they havent. This board has some problems man I am not a moral victory guy but some on this board need to rethink life

You definitely need to look at your last sentence and take a long look in the mirror.

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