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But we did. Fire everyone.
This is way more than just coaching. All of these players are soft as baby shit. Not one is worth a damn cent of NIL, not one.
Guess we should have just rehired Mullen.
I initially regretted choosing my username, but it has withstood the test of time.
This is the worst coach we have ever hired (in my lifetime). This dude f'n sucks
You obviously do not remember Charlie Shira. But I will say this, even this coach is human. He's not a miracle worker, especially in year one. As the old saying goes, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken do-do. Coach Lebby has a huge mountain to climb; an absolute dearth of talent in 'Vegas. Arnett didn't have a clue; he was dear in the headlights lost. Coach Lebby is not; give the man time!!Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
bullshit. Lebby is no better. We have much more offensive talent than last year
This was always going to be a down year no matter the coach. Last year should have been an up year but Arnett blew it. But Lebby not being able to get an experienced DC that could bring a few players with him doomed any chance of being respectable this season.
I agree that our offense being this bad with all the offensive acquisitions is very disappointing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Several posters knew it was the wrong hire when we hired him.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Arnett looked almost this bad with a veteran team.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Arnett had to go. Now whether Lebby is the right guy or not I don't know. Selmon just went with a guy he had an Oklahoma connection with. I don't even think we went through a true interview process. But with all the turnmoil in our program Lebby needs to get at least 3 years to have SOME stability. We can't keep changing staffs every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
I guess I missed us getting beat by 4 tds at home by a G5 team. Thanks for reminding meQuote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
To this point- Arnett > Lebby.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
But its early
Lebby will have 3 years at least. I mean we have this same SEC schedule next year except flip the home and away. So we will probably be shit once again.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Barbay > Hutzler. At least Barbay had been a G5 OC for several years. Hutzler was a ridiculous hire. There were all kind of G5 DCs that would have taken our job. We don't have much defensive talent but we've compounded the problem with bad coaching.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Back to back 1 win seasons will be a joy.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve
I'm ok with giving Lebby time but he needs for fire/hire some folks. Our S&C sucks. You'd never see this from a Mullen or Leach team. AND D rules ... over O. Gotta have D first.
We have to fundamentally change how we do everything football starting with the Bulldog Initiative.
Pride probably kept both sides from even talking.Quote:
Originally Posted by maroonmania
Guess you forgot shitting the bed with a highly experienced team that won 9 games the year before.Quote:
Originally Posted by msstate7
Sr laden team refused change. It is what it isQuote:
Originally Posted by Mjoelner34
That is a blatant lieQuote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
Shouldn't have changed. It is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
We should have hired Curt Cigniti. He has Indiana rolling in his first year
It doesn't matter how good the QB and WRs are when the OL is garbage. The RBs are too except for maybe the third stringer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
it is 100% what happened. We had zero buy in with the team in 2023 and it showed. Blatanley obviousQuote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
this OL is supposed to be better than last yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Matt3467
the proper hire would have been a successful head coach at a lower level. in the new era there are no training wheels or experiments
Take a break brother. You don?t have to tote that water anymore. They are all fired. BP got what y?all wanted, revenge on Leach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
They lied. The kids knew it and lost all respect for them. That?s what happened. The team quit after the Kentucky loss and wasnt coming back to life till he was gone bc he came In the locker room after that game talking about all we needed was 2 more wins to save his job. Bookie Watson had an implosion and then the kids quit at A&M.
We're going to have to overpay to get some players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rawdawg
And we're going to need a new DC.
You are trash. Yes the team quit. We all saw it. There was no buy-in. It was old dudes wanting to keep things their way- not having to do something new
The WR's absolutely wanted no part of blocking. We saw it real time.
**** Dan Mullen. He never wanted to be here. He left us. He's a TV guy. Probably not a coincidence that both programs he left had majors issues after he left either.Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
Yep. All of this. F U C K those boosters that did this to MSU and all of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by BuckyIsAB****
And how many times did you criticize Croom and Moorhead for not adapting to his personnel? Arnett and Barbay were no different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Coach34
LOL ... Everyone still wanting to blame Leach in the NIL era. Leach or Mullen would win 6 to 8 every year with maybe a 5 win or 9 win season thrown in here or there. In this era or previous era. They know how to be HCs. They make players tough. They know how to create a good culture.
A lot of it is just talent and desire evaluation. Mullen and Leach can do that.
Leach may not do as well in NIL era, but he'd win 5 or 6 with this killer schedule ... and it is a killer schedule. We're looking at five 50+ pt losses if the best 5 on our schedule unleash on us. And we ain't winning an SEC game barring some miracle.
Then what the **** do you call this?
Also pretty much all of Leach's guys are gone on offense. And most on defense. It's a lot easier to reboot in the NIL era. We failed to do that last offseason.Quote:
Originally Posted by dawgday166
Arnett sucks and Lebby sucks.
But only one of them lost by 24 points to a G5 school while getting completely pushed around on both lines.
We failed to do that the last two seasons. The reality is we are funding this current roster with NIL money. A lot of it. We have to evaluate better and we can?t pay guys just to fill out a roster. And yes we need to overpay for know commodities and stop trying to play moneyball because it has not worked in two cycles for us. We are lighting NIL funds on fire with this roster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Todd4State